Should Any Unrecognised Nations Be Recognised?

by **South Asia Minor** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:08 pm

Pesda wrote:Soon Wales and Scotland, I hope.

Scotland's got a far better chance considering their devolved poers and recent election results, and I'm all for that. It's a shame Wales isn't in quite as good a position. I never really liked England, though that might be due to my Czech-Irish nationalities.

by **New Manvir** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:53 pm

Kurdistan, Palestine, Tibet and East Turkestan are all that comes to mind right now. There are probably more, but I can't think of them.

by **Pesda** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:47 pm

South Asia Minor wrote:
Pesda wrote:Soon Wales and Scotland, I hope.

Scotland's got a far better chance considering their devolved poers and recent election results, and I'm all for that. It's a shame Wales isn't in quite as good a position. I never really liked England, though that might be due to my Czech-Irish nationalities.

I know, but the thing is, when Scotland goes, and if it's successfull, then Wales may do the same.

by **Krilo** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:22 pm

I meant the Kurds like the west compared to other groups. I didn't say they were alike. They've been tortured and abused more than most and actually cooperate with NATO forces(If I remember correctly).

by **SD_Film Artists** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:11 pm

South Asia Minor wrote:
Pesda wrote:Soon Wales and Scotland, I hope.

Scotland's got a far better chance considering their devolved poers and recent election results, and I'm all for that. It's a shame Wales isn't in quite as good a position. I never really liked England, though that might be due to my Czech-Irish nationalities.

A vote for the SNP isn't necessarily a vote for Scottish Independence, and if you don't like England then you may want to keep Scotland in the Union because of how much money Scotland creams off the English taxpayer to maintain its unsustainable welfare state.

And besides, Scotland already is recognised; a constituent country of the United Kingdom.

"Skallvia" · by **Maurepas** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:40 am

Taiwan I think needs to be recognized, and both sides need to relinquish claims to eachother's territory.

Palestine I think needs to be recognized, and with similar prerequisits. Cyprus, similarly.

by **Volmachtia** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:45 am

Transinistria, because Europe needs moar countriez.

In srs bsns, though, Tibet.

by **Death-Magnavox** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:17 am

The Holy Empire of the Death-Magnavox,rules the whole universe,but however,isnt recognised by earthlings.

by **Albicia** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:37 am

The Republic of Lanos wrote:This may not end well... but here goes.

I recognize the Republic of China. You may call them Taiwan, but they have never been ruled by the Communists and continues to exist.

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA!
萬歲共和國於中國!

Amen!

by **Francis Fitzgerald** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:41 am

Shah's Iran, the Kingdom of Libya, Anglo-Saxon Britain, of course.

by **Lykosia** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:22 am

I will recognize Palestine, Tibet, Republic of China (Taiwan) and Somaliland. They totally deserve it, nuff said.

Hippostania wrote:..oh, and Hippostania.

...and Lykosia.

For micronations, we can't and we shouldn't recognize any of them. You want to recognize the space as Celestia's? I think not.

by **Estovakiva** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:30 am

Palestine, Abkazhia ,South-Osetia.

by **South Asia Minor** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:06 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
South Asia Minor wrote:Scotland's got a far better chance considering their devolved poers and recent election results, and I'm all for that. It's a shame Wales isn't in quite as good a position. I never really liked England, though that might be due to my Czech-Irish nationalities.

A vote for the SNP isn't necessarily a vote for Scottish Independence,

I said they stood a better chance.

and if you don't like England then you may want to keep Scotland in the Union because of how much money Scotland creams off the English taxpayer to maintain its unsustainable welfare state.

How callous.

And besides, Scotland already is recognised; a constituent country of the United Kingdom.

Beside the point.

by **SD_Film Artists** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:11 am

South Asia Minor wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
A vote for the SNP isn't necessarily a vote for Scottish Independence,

I said they stood a better chance.

Fair enough.

and if you don't like England then you may want to keep Scotland in the Union because of how much money Scotland creams off the English taxpayer to maintain its unsustainable welfare state.

How callous.

I'm only trying to see the logic in your post.

And besides, Scotland already is recognised; a constituent country of the United Kingdom.

Beside the point.

I thought this thread was about nations which should be recognised but are not.

by **Polinikia** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:12 am

The Kingdom of Hawai'i. The monarchy was illegaly overthrown in 1893, and illegaly annexed in 1900. Hawai'i's independence movement is one of the world's oldest struggles for independence.

by **South Asia Minor** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:16 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:I'm only trying to see the logic in this.

I was just expressing my opinion on England.

I thought this thread was about nations which should be recognised but are not.

And in the case of Scotland, surely we all mean an actual bona fide, independent nation state represented in the UN, rather than a glorified province.

by **Polinikia** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:19 am

I also want to add West New Guinea (Irian Jaya), Indonesia militarily occupied that country, and rigged a referendum to annex that country.

by **Maineiacs** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:19 am

Tibet, Taiwan, Kosovo, Palestine, and Darfur.

by **SD_Film Artists** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:20 am

South Asia Minor wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:I'm only trying to see the logic in this.

I was just expressing my opinion on England.

I thought this thread was about nations which should be recognised but are not.

And in the case of Scotland, surely we all mean an actual bona fide, independent nation state represented in the UN, rather than a glorified province.

Perhaps I'm just nitpicking, but I think this is thread about countries that aren't recognised officialy, presumably against the will of their people; rather than countries that aren't independent.

by **South Asia Minor** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:21 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
South Asia Minor wrote:I was just expressing my opinion on England.

And in the case of Scotland, surely we all mean an actual bona fide, independent nation state represented in the UN, rather than a glorified province.

Perhaps I'm just nitpicking, but I think this is thread about countries that aren't recognised officialy, against the will of their people; rather than countries that aren't fully independent.

Well, if it is then I'll GTFO.

by **SD_Film Artists** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:23 am

South Asia Minor wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
Perhaps I'm just nitpicking, but I think this is thread about countries that aren't recognised officialy, against the will of their people; rather than countries that aren't fully independent.

Well, if it is then I'll GTFO.

If Scotland is independent?

by **South Asia Minor** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:25 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
South Asia Minor wrote:Well, if it is then I'll GTFO.

If Scotland is independent?

If this thread is according to those parameters and nothing else then my argument doesn't hold much water.
Not that I was the one arguing, I was just agreeing with Pesda.

by **Asian Wisdom** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:26 am

A man full with hate is desperate,
A man full with dependence is desperate too,
A man full with love is generous,

Every men is hatefull and dependence, a loving man is sometimes hard to find,
Perhaps we shouldn't speak of countries anymore.

by **SD_Film Artists** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:26 am

South Asia Minor wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
If Scotland is independent?

If this thread is according to those parameters and nothing else then my argument doesn't hold much water.
Not that I was the one arguing, I was just agreeing with Pesda.

Ah it' ok, Pesda's just a Welsh Separatist. :lol:

by **New Freedomstan** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:30 am

Palestine, Transnistria, Abhakazia and South Ossetia.

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