Should Any Unrecognised Nations Be Recognised?

[Kemaliste]

People just support whoever they want to support. They support Armenians against Azeris as they are christian. They support the domination of Kurds in Iraq rather than Turkmens, because Kurds are easier to be controlled by west. They don't recognize the domination of Turkish Cypriots in the northern part of the island (even though they are majority there) and even want the island to be ruled by greek cypriots. This is what westerners understand from humanity, fairness etc.

[Calldar]

Sealand, Kurdistan and Somaliland.

[Jothar]

Khalistan! AKA: The Punjab under the British or under the Sikh Empire!

[Kington Langley]

The only unrecognised state I would like to see recognised is the Republic of China (Taiwan).

[SD_Film Artists]

People just support whoever they want to support. They support Armenians against Azeris as they are christian. They support the domination of Kurds in Iraq rather than Turkmens, because Kurds are easier to be controlled by west. They don't recognize the domination of Turkish Cypriots in the northern part of the island (even though they are majority there) and even want the island to be ruled by greek cypriots. This is what westerners understand from humanity, fairness etc.

But again, Why do Turkmens deserve independence more than others such as Kurds?



And on a somewhat unrelated note, I wonder if Lemon Curd comes from Kurdistan...

[The Union of Myanmar]

Palestine.
Shan State.
The Commonwealth of Jack's Flat.

Oh dear... I do not totally agree with the Shan State. The Shan people have contributed a lot to Burmese culture. But considering the brutallity and racism built up against the Shan people by the military junta, I, as a Burmese person, think the Shan State should be independent. The military regime doesn't think so. The longer the civil war rages, the more "legitimacy" the regime has. Totally agree with Palestine.

[Trixiestan]

People just support whoever they want to support. They support Armenians against Azeris as they are christian. They support the domination of Kurds in Iraq rather than Turkmens, because Kurds are easier to be controlled by west. They don't recognize the domination of Turkish Cypriots in the northern part of the island (even though they are majority there) and even want the island to be ruled by greek cypriots. This is what westerners understand from humanity, fairness etc.

You're probably overthinking this a bit.

People here support the independence of Nagorno-Karabekh because even before the Armenian-Azerbaijani war the region had an overwhealming Armenian Majority. Do you really think people wouldn't feel the same way if Armenia was the muslim country and Azerbaijan was christian?

People support the independence of the Kurds because they're a majority in a decent chunk of the middle-east but have faced nothing but persecution at best. While I'm not going to deny the fact that there is Kurdification going on in parts of Iraqi Kurdistan against the Iraqi Turkmen, at least there's been talks of autonomy and Iraqi Turkmen parties aren't banned.

As for the situation in Northenr Cyprus? Quite frankly, I back a federal solution (as was voted for by the Turkish cypriots but was voted aganst by the Greek), but I definetly sympathise with the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and feel it should be given more recognition by the international community.

[Britcan]

Tibet, Kosovo, Taiwan, Sealand and possibly a few other Micronations.

[-St George]

There is no a state called Kurdistan, not even unrecognized. And how do you think they are like the west ? have you ever visited eastern anatolia ? don't talk about the people you have never seen please.

Iraqi Turkmens deserve their independence more than kurds. Nobody can make them be ruled under kurds.

The words of a Turk Nationalist aren't exactly unbiased.

And as for your request, it's ridiculous.

[Kemaliste]

There is no a state called Kurdistan, not even unrecognized. And how do you think they are like the west ? have you ever visited eastern anatolia ? don't talk about the people you have never seen please.

Iraqi Turkmens deserve their independence more than kurds. Nobody can make them be ruled under kurds.

The words of a Turk Nationalist aren't exactly unbiased.

And as for your request, it's ridiculous.

Visit here, and see by your own EYES. What can I tell more ? I live among them, I've gone the cities they majorically live in, but move your ass and come here so you can see the fact yourself. See how are they so modern and western.

And why it's ridiculous that Iraqi Turkmens get their independence ?

[-St George]

The words of a Turk Nationalist aren't exactly unbiased.

And as for your request, it's ridiculous.

Visit here, and see by your own EYES. What can I tell more ? I live among them, I've gone the cities they majorically live in, but move your ass and come here so you can see the fact yourself. See how are they so modern and western.

I have been to parts of Kurdistan, and whilst I wouldn't call them western, nor westernised, the rest of Turkey is much the same.

[Kemaliste]

I don't really give a *uck if we are western or not. We are not about to be so. But what parts of Turkey did you really see to judge all of Turkey ? I wonder.

I really go mad with such prejudicial comments by the people who have no knowledge about the issue. There is a big difference between east and west Turkey, only a blind, lier or the one without knowledge can deny it, sorry.

[SD_Film Artists]

I don't really give a *uck if we are western or not. We are not about to be so. But what parts of Turkey did you really see to judge all of Turkey ? I wonder.

I really go mad with such prejudicial comments by the people who have no knowledge about the issue. There is a big difference between east and west Turkey, only a blind, lier or the one without knowledge can deny it, sorry.

Excuse me, did you miss my question for a 3rd time?

But again, Why do Turkmens deserve independence more than others such as Kurds?

[Kemaliste]

People ignore Turkmens rights and consider these lands as part of so-called kurdistan, I just tried to remind that they are not a vacant nation and they deserve to be free. Because were exposed much more persecutions during the history. They live with their PAINFUL memories. I'm close to many of them that's why I know. And somebody's trying to give kurds some lands as gift. Unless Turkmens get their freedom, kurds can take no piece from our lands we've gained by millions of martyries blood. I don't really care if they will form their puppet state in Iran or Iraq though.

[Dilange]

People ignore Turkmens rights and consider these lands as part of so-called kurdistan, I just tried to remind that they are not a vacant nation and they deserve to be free. Because were exposed much more persecutions during the history. They live with their PAINFUL memories. I'm close to many of them that's why I know. And somebody's trying to give kurds some lands as gift. Unless Turkmens get their freedom, kurds can take no piece from our lands we've gained by millions of martyries blood. I don't really care if they will form their puppet state in Iran or Iraq though.

People ignore the Kurds too. THey are the largest group of people without a homeland in current days. They deserve the land more than the Turkmens. They have been massacred and persecuted by Turkey and Iraq.

Besides both deserve homelands but the kurds more than others I think 28-35 million people have more rights to a land than 8 million.

[Kemaliste]

People ignore Turkmens rights and consider these lands as part of so-called kurdistan, I just tried to remind that they are not a vacant nation and they deserve to be free. Because were exposed much more persecutions during the history. They live with their PAINFUL memories. I'm close to many of them that's why I know. And somebody's trying to give kurds some lands as gift. Unless Turkmens get their freedom, kurds can take no piece from our lands we've gained by millions of martyries blood. I don't really care if they will form their puppet state in Iran or Iraq though.

People ignore the Kurds too. THey are the largest group of people without a homeland in current days. They deserve the land more than the Turkmens. They have been massacred and persecuted by Turkey and Iraq.

Besides both deserve homelands but the kurds more than others I think 28-35 million people have more rights to a land than 8 million.

Can I get an example from these massacres and persecutions ? Well let me explain, PKK, which is claimed to represent kurds rights, murdered many Kurdish civilians since 1970s. They enforce extortion to Kurdish families. They attacked many Kurdish villages because they didn't vote for the party they supported. I don't even need to mention their baby and children massacres.

If there is a massacre, this is it.

[Shofercia]

Palestine, Kosovo, Western Sahara, Nagorno-Karabakh, Somaliland, Republic of China (the Real China, the commie china is just a cheap copy) and Chechenya
..oh, and Hippostania.

Even though Chechens don't want independence?

Palestine, Kosovo, Western Sahara, Nagorno-Karabakh, Somaliland, Republic of China (the Real China, the commie china is just a cheap copy) and Chechenya

Oh hey, I agree with Hippostani-

..oh, and Hippostania.

Oh. :v

I'd also add Transnistria (or annex it into Ukraine or Russia or something), Kurdistan, Abkazia, South Ossetia, and I suppose any other region with an overwhelming majority in favour of independence.

Transdneistria doesn't want annexation, they want Independence. So does Abkhazia. South Ossetia is the only country that wants to be part of Russia, in order to unite with North Ossetia, and thus become Ossetia.

East Turkestan, Bashkortostan, Chuvashia, Gagauzia, Crimea, Tatarstan, Tuva, Altai Republic, Karachay-Cherkessia, Khakassia, Yakutiya, Kabardino-Balkaria, Taymyria, Karakalpakstan, Salarstan (aka Xunhua Salar), South Azerbaijan (part of Iran), Western Thrace

This is for dividers Long live Turks !

And with that list, you want the Russians as allies?!

[Kemaliste]

It was just a reprisal ^^ I don't personally support it.

[Dilange]

People ignore the Kurds too. THey are the largest group of people without a homeland in current days. They deserve the land more than the Turkmens. They have been massacred and persecuted by Turkey and Iraq.

Besides both deserve homelands but the kurds more than others I think 28-35 million people have more rights to a land than 8 million.

Can I get an example from these massacres and persecutions ?

Halabja Massacre (1988)
Al-Afnal Campaign (1986-1989)
The Pahlavi Dynasty (1925-1979)
Second Ba'ath Regime on Barzani Kurds (1983)
Massacre of Qamishlo (2004)

a few of them

[Kemaliste]

I'll be really glad if you will be able to put some from Turkey too.

[Angleter]

As in extant states that are unrecognised or partially-recognised- South Ossetia, Kosovo, to a lesser extent Abkhazia, and when it becomes a fully-fledged state Palestine. I also think Nagorno-Karabakh should join Armenia and Northern Cyprus Turkey.

[Lauralestria]

Transistina, Tibet, and Palestine should have full recognition....

[Pesda]

Soon Wales and Scotland, I hope.

[Kemaliste]

As in extant states that are unrecognised or partially-recognised- South Ossetia, Kosovo, to a lesser extent Abkhazia, and when it becomes a fully-fledged state Palestine. I also think Nagorno-Karabakh should join Armenia and Northern Cyprus Turkey.

Did you ask Turkish Cypriots if they want to unite or remain independent ?

[Chinese Regions]

Soon Wales and Scotland, I hope.

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