Should Any Unrecognised Nations Be Recognised?

[Arumdaum]

No need to count it. It's already been a independent state. No matter how many people see it.

We're talking about countries that a lot of countries don't recognize. I'm pretty sure Northern Cyprus falls within that category, considering only Turkey recognizes it.

[Tekcirb]

Kosovo and Palestine

[Soviet Russia Republic]

All of the ones that prove they can care for themselves.

[Phoenigetuzstha]

Corsica, Sicily

No love for France or Italy?

There Islands off the coast of the respective country because lets be honest Malta is smaller and they are independent.

[Kemaliste]

No need to count it. It's already been a independent state. No matter how many people see it.

We're talking about countries that a lot of countries don't recognize. I'm pretty sure Northern Cyprus falls within that category, considering only Turkey recognizes it.

I see people talking about regions, nations who didn't even declare their independence and maybe even their own garden ! so that's why I counted Turkic nations and the regions Turks live predominantly.

[Arumdaum]

We're talking about countries that a lot of countries don't recognize. I'm pretty sure Northern Cyprus falls within that category, considering only Turkey recognizes it.

I see people talking about regions, nations who didn't even declare their independence and maybe even their own garden ! so that's why I counted Turkic nations and the regions Turks live predominantly.

I was just asking you why you didn't include Northern Cyprus; it seemed sorta weird to me.

[Kemaliste]

I didn't include it because I saw people don't really care about recognizition status of the nations here as they mention some groups, regions etc. that don't even have a '' state '' status. So I just kept pace with them !

[-St George]

...well... actually the claims of RoC extend on more than just mainland China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ROC_A ... Claims.svg

they want to rule also all of Mongolia, some bits of Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistand, India, Myanmar and Russia.

Basically they're a free-market version of Best Korea as for nuttiness. Maybe I'll start calling them "Best China".

The RoC need to really wake up and face reality, they might get more respect if they just decided to call themselves the Republic of Taiwan or something similar and gave up their juvenile hopes for controlling the mainland..

China has threatened military action if the RoC becomes an independent Taiwanese state.

[Keronians]

The RoC need to really wake up and face reality, they might get more respect if they just decided to call themselves the Republic of Taiwan or something similar and gave up their juvenile hopes for controlling the mainland..

China has threatened military action if the RoC becomes an independent Taiwanese state.

Which doesn't justify acting like spoilt 3 year old pissed over losing a civil war.

In any event, hopefully the ROC will become more independent and respected once India's caught up to China.

[-St George]

China has threatened military action if the RoC becomes an independent Taiwanese state.

Which doesn't justify acting like spoilt 3 year old pissed over losing a civil war.

In any event, hopefully the ROC will become more independent and respected once India's caught up to China.

Yes, yes it does. If RoC withdraws claims to some of those lands, then it must withdraw claims to all of those lands (or that's what the PRC will say anyway).

And could you even prove RoC is 'acting like a spoilt 3 year old', please?

[The Corparation]

The RoC need to really wake up and face reality, they might get more respect if they just decided to call themselves the Republic of Taiwan or something similar and gave up their juvenile hopes for controlling the mainland..

China has threatened military action if the RoC becomes an independent Taiwanese state.

But they know the US would step in so its mostly hollow threats.

[SD_Film Artists]

China has threatened military action if the RoC becomes an independent Taiwanese state.

But they know the US would step in so its mostly hollow threats.

And start World War 3? I'd expect the US to just give arms and intel support.

[-St George]

China has threatened military action if the RoC becomes an independent Taiwanese state.

But they know the US would step in so its mostly hollow threats.

Perhaps, depends on whether the PRC thinks they could take out the RoC before US assets from SK and Japan get involved.

[Keronians]

Which doesn't justify acting like spoilt 3 year old pissed over losing a civil war.

In any event, hopefully the ROC will become more independent and respected once India's caught up to China.

Yes, yes it does. If RoC withdraws claims to some of those lands, then it must withdraw claims to all of those lands (or that's what the PRC will say anyway).

And could you even prove RoC is 'acting like a spoilt 3 year old', please?

Which makes perfect sense. The RoC should just get on with it, and accept that Taiwan and a few other islands is all it has.

Saying that you control Indian, Mongolian, Russian, Japanese, Vietnamese territories and all of mainland China, when you clearly do NOT, on the simple basis that you did 60-70 years ago is acting like a spoilt child.

[Chinese Regions]

This may not end well... but here goes.

I recognize the Republic of China. You may call them Taiwan, but they have never been ruled by the Communists and continues to exist.

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA!
萬歲共和國於中國!

Fuck Yeah Brother!

[Keronians]

But they know the US would step in so its mostly hollow threats.

And start World War 3? I'd expect the US to just give arms and intel support.

The threat is enough to make the Chinese back down.

I also suspect that Taiwan will enjoy much more respect, and status when India's power is comparable to that of China.

Unless, of course, relations greatly improve. Which doesn't seem likely. A few false gestures, a few photos of heads of government shaking hands, some summits, but that's it.

[Chinese Regions]

The RoC need to really wake up and face reality, they might get more respect if they just decided to call themselves the Republic of Taiwan or something similar and gave up their juvenile hopes for controlling the mainland..

PRC would STILL claim ROC though, a name change makes no difference.

[Krilo]

The republic of china
Israel
Palestine
Kosovo
South Ossetia
Western Kurdistan (or a combination of Syrian Kurdistan, Iraqi Kurdistan, Iranian Kurdistan, and Turkish Kurdistan) The Kurds kinda like "The west", we could have an Allie right in the middle of it all. Plus the Kurds kinda get abused by every nation they live in, like in iraq.

[Kemaliste]

There is no a state called Kurdistan, not even unrecognized. And how do you think they are like the west ? have you ever visited eastern anatolia ? don't talk about the people you have never seen please.

Iraqi Turkmens deserve their independence more than kurds. Nobody can make them be ruled under kurds.

[Arumdaum]

The republic of china
Israel
Palestine
Kosovo
South Ossetia
Western Kurdistan (or a combination of Syrian Kurdistan, Iraqi Kurdistan, Iranian Kurdistan, and Turkish Kurdistan) The Kurds kinda like "The west", we could have an Allie right in the middle of it all. Plus the Kurds kinda get abused by every nation they live in, like in iraq.

Turkey's already our ally.

And I'm pretty sure the Turks are much more "western" than the Kurds.

[SD_Film Artists]

There is no a state called Kurdistan, not even unrecognized. And how do you think they are like the west ? have you ever visited eastern anatolia ? don't talk about the people you have never seen please.

Iraqi Turkmens deserve their independence more than kurds. Nobody can make them be ruled under kurds.

Why do Turkmens deserve independence more than others?

Oh right, I remember, it's because you're a Turkish Nationalist, or rather you would be a Nationalist if you cared about what the majority of your fellow countrymen think...

[Kemaliste]

There is no a state called Kurdistan, not even unrecognized. And how do you think they are like the west ? have you ever visited eastern anatolia ? don't talk about the people you have never seen please.

Iraqi Turkmens deserve their independence more than kurds. Nobody can make them be ruled under kurds.

Why do Turkmens deserve independence more than others?

Because this place is full of biased and Turkofobic people. They support the independence of kurds in iraq ignoring Turkmens in the region. Somebody should advocate their rights.

[Jagalonia]

Palestine.
Shan State.
The Commonwealth of Jack's Flat.

And the Republic of Dave.

[SD_Film Artists]

Why do Turkmens deserve independence more than others?

Because this place is full of biased and Turkofobic people. They support the independence of kurds in iraq ignoring Turkmens in the region. Somebody should advocate their rights.

I'm sure many people here would support the Turkmens if their cause has both publicity and legitimacy. But I think they're lacking in publicity at least, so I don't know much about them other than having "Turkoman" mercenaries in Medieval Total War.

[SD_Film Artists]

Palestine.
Shan State.
The Commonwealth of Jack's Flat.

And the Republic of Dave.

Is Clarkson Island a Protectorate of the Republic of Dave or are you talking about a different Dave?