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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Shofercia » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:08 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Valsovakia wrote:South Ossetia.


Georigan territory. They can ask the Georgians to legally leave but the Russians made the whole situation worse.


Hasn't been De Facto Georgian Territory since... decades. Stalin withdrew a part of South Ossetia's Autonomy, to give it to his native Georgia. And Abkhazia was its own SSR, but it was Stalin who made Abkhazia semi-autonomous, placing them under Georgian jurisdiction. Same with Nagorno-Karabakh, which wanted to be with Armenia, but Stalin made it part of Azerbaijan. He also deported the Chechens, for burning his home city of Gori.

Also, Russians may have overreacted, but if they didn't respond, you'd have civilians casualties in the thousands, and the entire region might have been destabilized.


Britannia And France wrote:The Following:
Nagorno Karabakh
The National Transitional Council of Libya
South Ossetia/ Akbhazia
Tibet
Taiwan


Interesting list. For some reason, I like most of it :P


Archnar wrote:Tranistria and the republic of china


I wonder if Moldova still objects to that.


Ulthrani wrote:South Ossetia
Abkhazia
Transnistria
Somaliland


I agree :D


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West Vandengaarde wrote:Oh, I completely agree. Either the PRC needs to relinquish claims on the RoC or the RoC needs to relinquish claims on the PRC, though.

...well... actually the claims of RoC extend on more than just mainland China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ROC_A ... Claims.svg

they want to rule also all of Mongolia, some bits of Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistand, India, Myanmar and Russia.

Basically they're a free-market version of Best Korea as for nuttiness. Maybe I'll start calling them "Best China".


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Augarundus
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Postby Augarundus » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:56 pm

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Postby Jafas United » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:56 pm

Western Sahara.

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:00 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
West Vandengaarde wrote:The people of China must want democracy somewhat. The Republic is democratic. Ergo, most Chinese would be happy under the Republic's rule, I assume. This gives them much legitimacy in my eyes.

I trust you have proof that the people in China are clamoring for democracy of any form?

Anyway, what you are saying doesn't matter; The ROC has lost connection with the mainland, and the sun shall rise in the east before it regains control.

y'all seem to have missed the part where the ROC no longer exists.

all taiwan officially wants is to be TAIWAN and not a part of the prc.

all the PRC wants officially is to get its lost province back under its control.

what they actually seem to want is to keep a strained status quo going because both sides get some benefit from it that i dont understand.
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Postby Camerany » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:09 pm

Well I guess maybe South Ossetia and Abkazia but palestine and the rest are out of the question in my book.

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Postby Riemaia » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:14 pm

South Ossetia

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:15 pm

Any nation (unrecognised or otherwise) that exercises stable control of the area within its borders should be recognised.
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Postby United States of Cascadia » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:20 pm

Kosovo and Western Sahara. Maybe Northern Cyprus as well.
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Postby Joesavi » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:36 pm

Somaliland
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Postby Anacapri » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:27 am

Cyprus and Cornwall.

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Postby Hippostania » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:34 am

Palestine, Kosovo, Western Sahara, Nagorno-Karabakh, Somaliland, Republic of China (the Real China, the commie china is just a cheap copy) and Chechenya
..oh, and Hippostania.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:06 am

I would support diplomatic negotiations between Israel and the Palestine in the interest of ensuring peace and stability.

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Postby Vestr-Norig » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:14 am

Hmm, I would personally have recognised them all, but if I would have to choose one, I think I would have choosen my own country. Long live the free and independent nation of Western Norway!

And West Vandengaarde, you are kinda annoying me with your flag... You should really consider change it to a clean one.
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Postby Trixiestan » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:15 am

Hippostania wrote:Palestine, Kosovo, Western Sahara, Nagorno-Karabakh, Somaliland, Republic of China (the Real China, the commie china is just a cheap copy) and Chechenya

Oh hey, I agree with Hippostani-

Hippostania wrote:..oh, and Hippostania.

Oh. :v

I'd also add Transnistria (or annex it into Ukraine or Russia or something), Kurdistan, Abkazia, South Ossetia, and I suppose any other region with an overwhelming majority in favour of independence.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:20 am

West Vandengaarde wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:This may not end well... but here goes.

I recognize the Republic of China. You may call them Taiwan, but they have never been ruled by the Communists and continues to exist.

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA!
萬歲共和國於中國!

Oh, I completely agree. Either the PRC needs to relinquish claims on the RoC or the RoC needs to relinquish claims on the PRC, though.

And Mongolia.

Hmm, I'd say Palestine.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:24 am

Trixiestan wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Palestine, Kosovo, Western Sahara, Nagorno-Karabakh, Somaliland, Republic of China (the Real China, the commie china is just a cheap copy) and Chechenya

Oh hey, I agree with Hippostani-

Hippostania wrote:..oh, and Hippostania.

Oh. :v

I'd also add Transnistria (or annex it into Ukraine or Russia or something), Kurdistan, Abkazia, South Ossetia, and I suppose any other region with an overwhelming majority in favour of independence.

Does my room count as a region?
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Postby Trixiestan » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:32 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Trixiestan wrote:Oh hey, I agree with Hippostani-


Oh. :v

I'd also add Transnistria (or annex it into Ukraine or Russia or something), Kurdistan, Abkazia, South Ossetia, and I suppose any other region with an overwhelming majority in favour of independence.

Does my room count as a region?

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:44 am

Augarundus wrote:Quebec


Britain won it fair and square! :p
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Postby Kemaliste » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:44 am

Anacapri wrote:Palestine, Kurdistan and Cornwall.


Haha, but what about Iraqi Turkmens ? Maybe they want indepence too. (They live in a region that is considered as part of so-called kurdish lands)
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Postby Kemaliste » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:48 am

East Turkestan, Bashkortostan, Chuvashia, Gagauzia, Crimea, Tatarstan, Tuva, Altai Republic, Karachay-Cherkessia, Khakassia, Yakutiya, Kabardino-Balkaria, Taymyria, Karakalpakstan, Salarstan (aka Xunhua Salar), South Azerbaijan (part of Iran), Western Thrace

This is for dividers ;) Long live Turks !
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:54 am

Kemaliste wrote:East Turkestan, Bashkortostan, Chuvashia, Gagauzia, Crimea, Tatarstan, Tuva, Altai Republic, Karachay-Cherkessia, Khakassia, Yakutiya, Kabardino-Balkaria, Taymyria, Karakalpakstan, Salarstan (aka Xunhua Salar), South Azerbaijan (part of Iran), Western Thrace

This is for dividers ;) Long live Turks !

What about Northern Cyprus?
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Postby Kemaliste » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:54 am

No need to count it. It's already been a independent state. No matter how many people see it.
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Postby Phoenigetuzstha » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:55 am

Palestine, Western Sahara, Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily
WHF5: 1st (24 points)
WHF6: 15th (7 points)
WHF7: 7th (24 points)
WHF8: 5th (29 points)
WHF9: 13th (13 points)
WHF10: 4th (31 points)
WV20: 6th (75 points)
WV21: 9th (72 points)
WV22: 4th (135 points)
WV23: 10th (76 points)

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:56 am

Phoenigetuzstha wrote:Corsica, Sicily


No love for France or Italy? :o
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Postby Permutatia » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:59 am

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DECODING THE REALITY
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WE'LL PENETRATE INFINITY
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TIME IS OUR TRUSTY STEED
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