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Do you find rape jokes funny?

Yes.
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No.
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It depends.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:56 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:And I find people justifying laughter at rape with "It depends on the execution and quality of the joke" equally disingenuous. It's l ike starting a sentence with "I'm not a racist, but ..."

How so? I don't find rape to be significantly worse than murder jokes, and I laugh at jokes involving death all the time.

Rape jokes tend to be considerably less funny because there's a pretty decent chance that someone listening was raped. Not many people who listen to murder jokes were murdered. Likewise, you might think twice about telling a Holocaust joke around someone who had actually been through the ordeal.
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Postby Jagalonia » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:13 pm

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Conserative Morality wrote:How so? I don't find rape to be significantly worse than murder jokes, and I laugh at jokes involving death all the time.

Rape jokes tend to be considerably less funny because there's a pretty decent chance that someone listening was raped. Not many people who listen to murder jokes were murdered. Likewise, you might think twice about telling a Holocaust joke around someone who had actually been through the ordeal.

I disagree entirely with the underlined part, good sir.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:14 pm

Jagalonia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Rape jokes tend to be considerably less funny because there's a pretty decent chance that someone listening was raped. Not many people who listen to murder jokes were murdered. Likewise, you might think twice about telling a Holocaust joke around someone who had actually been through the ordeal.

I disagree entirely with the underlined part, good sir.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:16 pm

Jagalonia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Rape jokes tend to be considerably less funny because there's a pretty decent chance that someone listening was raped. Not many people who listen to murder jokes were murdered. Likewise, you might think twice about telling a Holocaust joke around someone who had actually been through the ordeal.

I disagree entirely with the underlined part, good sir.

You don't say?
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Postby Kamelis » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:18 pm

It depends. If it's something like

"a dood was talking to his gf and aksed her if tehy wanted to do it. she sed no and he sed i wasnt aksing lol"

Then no.

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Postby JJ Place » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:18 pm

Rape's a terrible crime, an atrocity that destroys lives. That being said, rape jokes can be hilarious; a good joke is always worth a laugh.


Conserative Morality wrote:I find them funny sometimes. Depends on the execution.


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Postby Allemonde » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:18 pm

An old Georgia Tech joke book had one about a dozen UGA football players, I thought it was funny but today meh probaly not.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:19 pm

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Because I openly discriminate against furries and find next nothing involving them or their anthropomorphisms to be funny.

But I'm sure some people find it funny.

Not a fan of Darkwing Duck or Pinky and the Brain, I take it?
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:23 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Depends on the joke. If it's well told, and has a decent punchline, I don't mind laughing at rape jokes.


Bad jokes are bad jokes whether they are about the Republican party, or rape.

Funny jokes are still funny, whether they are about the Republican party, or rape.
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Postby Veblenia » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:42 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Veblenia wrote:Not funny. Ever.

Why do you think that?


Because I know rape survivors, and I have seen the toll it has taken on them. I've also come to realize how epidemic sexual violence is. It's not. Funny. Ever.
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Postby Augarundus » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:45 pm

Yes, and I frequently make them to friends of mine (males and females), along with racist jokes, Holocaust/genocide jokes, sexist jokes, and jokes on general douchebaggery (/myObjectivism).

If someone doesn't have a humor to take it, then they don't have the humor to be one of my friends, really.
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Postby Wiztopia » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:50 pm

All kinds of jokes are fair game so yes.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:52 pm

Augarundus wrote:Yes, and I frequently make them to friends of mine (males and females), along with racist jokes, Holocaust/genocide jokes, sexist jokes, and jokes on general douchebaggery (/myObjectivism).

If someone doesn't have a humor to take it, then they don't have the humor to be one of my friends, really.

I think I would seriously reconsider being friends with someone who thinks rape jokes are funny.
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:52 pm

The only rape joke that I've ever found funny is "What do 9 out of 10 people enjoy? Gang rape." and I didn't find it funny because of the rape per se but rather because of the black comedy aspect. One of the problems with many rape jokes is that they have no substance. They're just "LOL I shocked you by mentioning rape!" That's not really all that funny, unless you find shock humor funny or, more sickeningly, you find rape to be inherently funny.
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Postby Meryuma » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:12 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:The only rape joke that I've ever found funny is "What do 9 out of 10 people enjoy? Gang rape." and I didn't find it funny because of the rape per se but rather because of the black comedy aspect. One of the problems with many rape jokes is that they have no substance. They're just "LOL I shocked you by mentioning rape!" That's not really all that funny, unless you find shock humor funny or, more sickeningly, you find rape to be inherently funny.


The black comedy aspect kinda comes from the rape.

I thought that one South Park episode where Mr. Garrison visited his dad was funny, that and the Bo Burnham song I mentioned earlier in the thread. However, rape isn't funny, and I don't like the social implications of rape jokes.
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Postby Augarundus » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:19 pm

Farnhamia wrote:I would seriously reconsider

Chloroform can easily stop that.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:21 pm

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Augarundus wrote:Yes, and I frequently make them to friends of mine (males and females), along with racist jokes, Holocaust/genocide jokes, sexist jokes, and jokes on general douchebaggery (/myObjectivism).

If someone doesn't have a humor to take it, then they don't have the humor to be one of my friends, really.

I think I would seriously reconsider being friends with someone who thinks rape jokes are funny.

I think I wouldn't be friends in the first place, with someone who openly professed to believe every human being but himself, to be worthless to him.
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Postby Augarundus » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:25 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:I think I wouldn't be friends in the first place, with someone who openly professed to believe every human being but himself, to be worthless to him.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:48 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:I think I wouldn't be friends in the first place, with someone who openly professed to believe every human being but himself, to be worthless to him.

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We're not arguing, so your point is pointless.
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Postby Augarundus » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:56 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote: your point is pointless.

lol statement^

When you said:
openly professed to believe every human being but himself, to be worthless to him.

It was a massive strawman; this has literally nothing to do with my philosophy; it isn't what I profess, and I'm not a sociopath.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:01 pm

Augarundus wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote: your point is pointless.

lol statement^

When you said:
openly professed to believe every human being but himself, to be worthless to him.

It was a massive strawman; this has literally nothing to do with my philosophy; it isn't what I profess, and I'm not a sociopath.

Not clinically. That is ethical egoism, though. It advocates total disregard for others in pursuit of one's own satisfaction.
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:05 pm

Augarundus wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I would seriously reconsider

Chloroform can easily stop that.


this is terrible

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Postby Augarundus » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:14 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Not clinically. That is ethical egoism, though. It advocates total disregard for others in pursuit of one's own satisfaction.

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No, egoism doesn't advocate a disregard for others. Egoism is a philosophy which advocates a love for others based on a perception of their value; whether that be their utility (I value an individual for his/her ability to perform work that brings me pleasure; factory labor, academic partner, sexual partner, investment, etc.) or their virtues (I value that individual for his/her characteristics; their humor, compassion, intellect, etc. brings me comfort).

Egoism does NOT advocate a disregard for others; instead, a selfish love. I do not love others for their sake, but for my own happiness. I do not love my friends, family, or wife/girlfriend (assume I didn't just make a joke about chloroform) for their sake; I don't profess to love them out of pity. To do so would express a hatred towards them (they are unvirtuous yet still deserving of my love) and myself (I am obligated to love the unvirtuous). That is a disgusting ethical paradigm that dictates man reject any perception of value or self-esteem and, instead, subordinate his own existence and love of self to a pity of the other.
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Postby Augarundus » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:17 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:this is terrible

i smiled

What's white on top and black on the bottom?
Society

What's black on top and white on the bottom?
Rape



I'm an awful person, but even mods will admit that one (though I confess that, unlike chloroform joke, I didn't make it up) was funny.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:19 pm

If it involves a reference to prison then it is ok.
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