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Zepudria wrote:To me jokes about rape are off limits unless the victim is an inanimate object in which case it is only sometimes funny.

I don't think inanimate objects can offer consent and therefore I do not even know if they could be raped by definition.

Do you mean if the victim is not a real person but is instead made-up?

Rape jokes, no. It's not funny, it's rape. But I've also never heard a rape joke before. The idea in general makes me feel uneasy though.

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Norstal wrote:Except not really. For instance, Mary and Yahweh are not real characters. And if I were to say that Yahweh raped Mary in a joke somehow (I can't be arsed), that's not really a real person. You're laughing at an idea based on rape. Not an actual person. Not at someone else's misfortune, seeing as that someone else doesn't exist.

Wow, there has to be some sort of Internet Bonus Points to manage to find a way to take a swipe at a religious belief while defending joking about rape...

Kekeke.

Zeus and Hera then? But that'd be taking a swipe against those Pagans.

Norstal wrote:

Farnhamia wrote: It would be much more honest to say that you enjoy laughing at someone else's misfortune and physical violation. I wouldn't like to hear that, either, but it would be honest.

Except not really. For instance, Mary and Yahweh are not real characters. And if I were to say that Yahweh raped Mary in a joke somehow (I can't be arsed), that's not really a real person. You're laughing at an idea based on rape. Not an actual person. Not at someone else's misfortune, seeing as that someone else doesn't exist.

That might be funny because of the blasphemy.

Not funny man.

I don't find them funny. I can understand what makes them funny, given they are actually funny jokes, but the fact that they're about something as serious and common as rape instantly ruins any chances of me finding it funny.

I voted "it depends". A good joke is funny regardless of the content. So yes, I can find a good joke funny, even if it is about rape. That doesn't mean I think it's an appropriate joke to be making.

Lunatic Wisdom wrote:I don't find them funny. I can understand what makes them funny, given they are actually funny jokes, but the fact that they're about something as serious and common as rape instantly ruins any chances of me finding it funny.

I can respect that and I wouldn't make such jokes (not that I make them anyways, but you get my point) in your presence.

What I can't really respect are people who think they can choose what others can or cannot joke about.

Well here's the thing. I understand the humor in the joke. So you could say I find them funny. But I don't laugh and if anything I am disgusted more than amused.

You wanna hear a rape joke?


So Nightkill and Mike Tyson were in a bar...

Meryuma wrote:

Norstal wrote:Except not really. For instance, Mary and Yahweh are not real characters. And if I were to say that Yahweh raped Mary in a joke somehow (I can't be arsed), that's not really a real person. You're laughing at an idea based on rape. Not an actual person. Not at someone else's misfortune, seeing as that someone else doesn't exist.

That might be funny because of the blasphemy.

Well, ok, what about the rape scene in Pulp Fiction? I think that one might be a better example and it made people laugh. I'm not sure that's a rape joke per-se, but it's similar to a degree.

Hydesland wrote:Anything can be funny.

This.

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:

Hydesland wrote:Anything can be funny.

This.

you just gotta believe ...

Tell me this isn't funny.

Find me too sensitive if you want, but I find jokes about traumatising events that are far too often defended in the public limelight quite sad and not at all humorous.

Genivaria wrote:Tell me this isn't funny.

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Because I openly discriminate against furries and find next nothing involving them or their anthropomorphisms to be funny.

But I'm sure some people find it funny.

Norstal wrote:

Meryuma wrote:
That might be funny because of the blasphemy.

Well, ok, what about the rape scene in Pulp Fiction? I think that one might be a better example and it made people laugh. I'm not sure that's a rape joke per-se, but it's similar to a degree.

Meh. That was a funny movie but I didn't think it was a funny scene.

Genivaria wrote:Tell me this isn't funny.

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It isn't. Not because of the molestation aspect, it just isn't funny. It's basically Garfield with sexual harassment, c'mon.

I V Stalin wrote:Jokes - if they're funny, they're funny. Doesn't matter if the subject is rape or kittens. Or both.

perfection.

Genivaria wrote:Tell me this isn't funny.

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furry much?
It would've been funnier with human beings, with cartoon tigers it's kind of gross....

I have a horrible sense of humor, so yes I would find rape jokes fuuny, not all of them though like poorly executed ones

Meryuma wrote:

Norstal wrote:Well, ok, what about the rape scene in Pulp Fiction? I think that one might be a better example and it made people laugh. I'm not sure that's a rape joke per-se, but it's similar to a degree.

Meh. That was a funny movie but I didn't think it was a funny scene.

Genivaria wrote:Tell me this isn't funny.

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It isn't. Not because of the molestation aspect, it just isn't funny. It's basically Garfield with sexual harassment, c'mon.

Bah, you have no sense of humor.

Usually. They're almost always funny and rarely have I heard one that insulted someone for getting raped.

Jokes about literally anything can be funny. Whether they are or aren't usually has very little to do with the subject matter. So I have no problem with rape jokes, so long as the joke is good.

I am also a fan of racist jokes, but I don't actually think any less of a person from a different ethnic/national/religious/cultural background. In the same way, if I am a fan of rape jokes, it does not mean that I'm okay with rape.

Aside from that, I just have a very dark sense of humor. By friends will all tell you that I say incredibly creepy things and laugh at them. Rape is not off the table.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Farnhamia wrote:A joke about someone slipping on a banana peel is funny.

A joke about someone getting shot multiple times and dying because of it can be funny.

A joke about someone starting a nuclear war because of sexual insecurity can be funny.

Violence, death, murder, violation of rights, torture, all can be funny if done right.

A joke about forcibly shoving your cock into an unwilling woman's vagina isn't, really.

If done poorly? No, of course not. And why is it always a woman being violated, hmm?

And saying, "Yes, yes, it was a joke about a nasty bit of violence, but it was so well-delivered, I couldn't help but laugh," is trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. It would be much more honest to say that you enjoy laughing at someone else's misfortune and physical violation. I wouldn't like to hear that, either, but it would be honest.

"Yes yes, it was a joke about a nasty bit of violence, but it was well-done so I didn't really mind and found it quite funny." would be closer.

Yeah, I didn't think you'd get it, or that I could explain in such a way that you would.

They're all in bad taste, and none is funny when in the company of those who are bothered by them. They can be used most properly in black humor fashion. The best example I can recall was one from a story by Ambrose Bierce, in which the main character rapes and murders a girl--the same characters later hypnotizes his mother and father into kicking each other to death. But it isn't a "har har" type of story, as Bierce didn't intend to elicit laughter with any of his works. It was more of a bitter commentary, and the writer would undoubtedly be annoyed were one to refer to the rape incident as a "joke".