Is homosexuality a choice? (Improved OP)

[Rhodmhire]

Source is my brain.

You should cite some other brains, too.

Seeing what crowds of gays do, what way society is going and how the law protects them as "minorities" makes me very, very afraid for my future and that of my children.

It has next to nothing to do with you and your children. If you want to, keep them indoors, let them remain ignorant with you. Nobody's going to force you to start fucking another man in the street or to raise your children to do the same.

Here's a recent example
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/05 ... s-20110906

We can discuss this if you want, but as you can see from my nation's ideology, I think it's evident we have completely different ways of thinking.

Neither family was satisfied when the jury deadlocked last week in the trial of an Oxnard teenager charged with murdering a gay middle-school classmate before stunned students in an English class.

A homosexual boy was killed. What the fuck does that have to do with anything having to do with your hollow, pathetic, baseless statements? It wasn't his fault for being gay, whether or not the boy who killed him hated him for it or was just confused. That's the boy's fault, if anything it's the parent's fault. Perhaps it's the fault of those who berate homosexuals, sequester them, and bully them.

No, you know what, I think it is the fault of those people, people like you, who cannot just let them be, whether or not they made a choice, whether or not they were born with it.

They are doing no harm to you for being a homosexual as is. And your negative influence and the influence of many others like you is doing no good for anyone involved.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Your source is a terrible source.

Of course, everyone who dares to disagree with you must be mentally ill.

God forbid people actually think with their heads rather than sheep along with what the media tells them.

No, it's a terrible source because I can say that everyone is actually a six foot tall lion, and then reply "I have a source! My brain!"

And how is protecting LGBT folks as a discriminated group a bad thing and worthy of fearing? It's like hating black people because they now have rights instead of being slaves.

And what does this source have to do with your comment? A gay boy was shot, and you disagree with the trial against his murderer?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Source is my brain.

You should cite some other brains, too.

Seeing what crowds of gays do, what way society is going and how the law protects them as "minorities" makes me very, very afraid for my future and that of my children.

It has next to nothing to do with you and your children. If you want to, keep them indoors, let them remain ignorant with you. Nobody's going to force you to start fucking another man in the street or to raise your children to do the same.

Here's a recent example
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/05 ... s-20110906

We can discuss this if you want, but as you can see from my nation's ideology, I think it's evident we have completely different ways of thinking.

Neither family was satisfied when the jury deadlocked last week in the trial of an Oxnard teenager charged with murdering a gay middle-school classmate before stunned students in an English class.

A homosexual boy was killed. What the fuck does that have to do with anything having to do with your hollow, pathetic, baseless statements? It wasn't his fault for being gay, whether or not the boy who killed him hated him for it or was just confused. That's the boy's fault, if anything it's the parent's fault. Perhaps it's the fault of those who berate homosexuals, sequester them, and bully them.

No, you know what, I think it is the fault of those people, people like you, who cannot just let them be, whether or not they made a choice, whether or not they were born with it.

They are doing no harm to you for being a homosexual as is. And your negative influence and the influence of many others like you is doing no good for anyone involved.

[Ceannairceach]

Your brain is not a source.

Why is protecting them, as a discriminated group, and as human beings equal to you or me, wrong and worthy of fearing?

OK... So a child was shot and you have a problem with a trial against the shooter?

No, I have a problem with the fact the gay molested the poor kid on several occasions and when he was ultimately rejected he kept on spreading rumours to completely destroy that kid.

Guess who the teachers sided with? The minority of course, despite the fact the gay was clearly in the wrong.

This death could have been avoided had the gay been punished, instead society made him untouchable.

I didn't read anything about what you are talking about in that article... This said, since when has murder ever been a proper response to anything in a scholastic environment?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Your brain is not a source.

Why is protecting them, as a discriminated group, and as human beings equal to you or me, wrong and worthy of fearing?

OK... So a child was shot and you have a problem with a trial against the shooter?

No, I have a problem with the fact the gay molested the poor kid on several occasions and when he was ultimately rejected he kept on spreading rumours to completely destroy that kid.

Guess who the teachers sided with? The minority of course, despite the fact the gay was clearly in the wrong.

This death could have been avoided had the gay been punished, instead society made him untouchable.

Molested? Rumors? I did not see anything of that sort in the article. And that does not make murder justifiable.

[The-German-Volk]

No, I have a problem with the fact the gay molested the poor kid on several occasions and when he was ultimately rejected he kept on spreading rumours to completely destroy that kid.

Guess who the teachers sided with? The minority of course, despite the fact the gay was clearly in the wrong.

This death could have been avoided had the gay been punished, instead society made him untouchable.

I didn't read anything about what you are talking about in that article... This said, since when has murder ever been a proper response to anything in a scholastic environment?

That is not my point.

The poor kid was DESTROYED by that evil gay.

Since the article is clearly biased against the white straight male I wouldn't be surprised if he did much worse than what reported (which is still disgusting and criminal).

Gays have been made untouchable by law.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

I didn't read anything about what you are talking about in that article... This said, since when has murder ever been a proper response to anything in a scholastic environment?

That is not my point.

The poor kid was DESTROYED by that evil gay.

Since the article is clearly biased against the white straight male I wouldn't be surprised if he did much worse than what reported (which is still disgusting and criminal).

Gays have been made untouchable by law.

[Ceannairceach]

I didn't read anything about what you are talking about in that article... This said, since when has murder ever been a proper response to anything in a scholastic environment?

That is not my point.

The poor kid was DESTROYED by that evil gay.

Since the article is clearly biased against the white straight male I wouldn't be surprised if he did much worse than what reported (which is still disgusting and criminal).

Gays have been made untouchable by law.

Ah, so you are bullshiting. Don't worry, I understand. I know what's going on entirely.

Don't worry, we are an accepting environment here. You don't need to hide your homosexuality from us. Several of us on the boards are homo- or bisexual. You don't need to put up a front of "Homosexuality is evil" here. Let your rainbow out, and whatnot. Don't worry, we'll accept you as you are.

Please, don't transfer your own discomfort with your sexuality onto the rest of the community. That boy was shot for schoolyard harassment, when, by your own source, the shooter bullied the boy mercilessly.

[The-German-Volk]

For the people who REFUSE to read because they are AFRAID of the TRUTH, here's some quotes from the article which is CLEARLY biased against the white straight male.

He had recently begun to clumsily assert his sexuality, wearing makeup and high heels and flirting with boys publicly.

He seemed to have a crush on Brandon, blowing him kisses, calling out "I love you" and trying to sit with him at lunch.

His classmates said he was mad and embarrassed by Larry's attention. But they also teased him mercilessly about it.

a picture of Larry as a boy who seemed to court attention, then challenge kids for gawking as he tottered through the hall wearing high heels.

Some kids ran from him; they were uncomfortable, witnesses said. It seems a lot of boys were afraid of Larry King.

This gay was costantly hammering down on that poor kid and NOONE defended him.

[Rhodmhire]

The poor kid was DESTROYED by that evil gay.

"That evil gay" was killed by his classmate for being who he was. Was the homosexual kid who died not also destroyed? Isn't that the very essence of death?

Are you insane, sir? Or did you just not read the first paragraph of the article?

[The-German-Volk]

The poor kid was DESTROYED by that evil gay.

"That evil gay" was killed by his classmate. Was the homosexual kid who died not also destroyed? Isn't that the very essence of death?

Are you insane, sir? Or did you just not read the first paragraph of the article?

Clearly you cannot read.

All of this would have been avoided if someone stopped the gay from costantly harassing Brandon.

[Ceannairceach]

For the people who REFUSE to read because they are AFRAID of the TRUTH, here's some quotes from the article which is CLEARLY biased against the white straight male.

He had recently begun to clumsily assert his sexuality, wearing makeup and high heels and flirting with boys publicly.

He seemed to have a crush on Brandon, blowing him kisses, calling out "I love you" and trying to sit with him at lunch.

His classmates said he was mad and embarrassed by Larry's attention. But they also teased him mercilessly about it.

a picture of Larry as a boy who seemed to court attention, then challenge kids for gawking as he tottered through the hall wearing high heels.

Some kids ran from him; they were uncomfortable, witnesses said. It seems a lot of boys were afraid of Larry King.

This gay was costantly hammering down on that poor kid and NOONE defended him.

So... He was killed for flirting? Talk about overreacting. You aren't really defending your case; Most of those paint the deceased child as something of a social pariah.

[Ceannairceach]

"That evil gay" was killed by his classmate. Was the homosexual kid who died not also destroyed? Isn't that the very essence of death?

Are you insane, sir? Or did you just not read the first paragraph of the article?

Clearly you cannot read.

All of this would have been avoided if someone stopped the gay from costantly harassing Brandon.

Perhaps, but does this justify the murder? I think not. And perhaps it was a response to Brandon's bullying of young King.

[Grave_n_idle]

Your brain is not a source.

Why is protecting them, as a discriminated group, and as human beings equal to you or me, wrong and worthy of fearing?

OK... So a child was shot and you have a problem with a trial against the shooter?

No, I have a problem with the fact the gay molested the poor kid on several occasions and when he was ultimately rejected he kept on spreading rumours to completely destroy that kid.

Guess who the teachers sided with? The minority of course, despite the fact the gay was clearly in the wrong.

This death could have been avoided had the gay been punished, instead society made him untouchable.

You seem to be making up stuff to support your prejudice. Or did I miss another source that actually says the stuff you're claiming?

[The-German-Volk]

For the people who REFUSE to read because they are AFRAID of the TRUTH, here's some quotes from the article which is CLEARLY biased against the white straight male.







This gay was costantly hammering down on that poor kid and NOONE defended him.

So... He was killed for flirting? Talk about overreacting. You aren't really defending your case; Most of those paint the deceased child as something of a social pariah.

I don't even know how to respond to that.

I feel like I'm talking to a martian, I simply have to way of following your logic. There is no way for me to try and see it from your point of view to discuss it.
This is just... ugh.

When I try to get my head around people like you my brain just screams "UGH!" in pain

[Grave_n_idle]

He seemed to have a crush on Brandon, blowing him kisses, calling out "I love you" and trying to sit with him at lunch.

This is the only part I can find that even vaguely seems to resemble what you are claiming.

If it was a boy blowing kisses to a girl, or a girl calling out "I love you" to a boy, I very much doubt we'd even be debating whether it was an excuse for murder.

[Ceannairceach]

So... He was killed for flirting? Talk about overreacting. You aren't really defending your case; Most of those paint the deceased child as something of a social pariah.

I don't even know how to respond to that.

I feel like I'm talking to a martian, I simply have to way of following your logic. There is no way for me to try and see it from your point of view to discuss it.
This is just... ugh.

When I try to get my head around people like you my brain just screams "UGH!" in pain

No, not martian, simply what most people would call "rational", perhaps "logical", or maybe "LGBT Ally", and what have you.

[Rhodmhire]

For the people who REFUSE to read because they are AFRAID of the TRUTH, here's some quotes from the article which is CLEARLY biased against the white straight male.

He had recently begun to clumsily assert his sexuality, wearing makeup and high heels and flirting with boys publicly.

He seemed to have a crush on Brandon, blowing him kisses, calling out "I love you" and trying to sit with him at lunch.

His classmates said he was mad and embarrassed by Larry's attention. But they also teased him mercilessly about it.

a picture of Larry as a boy who seemed to court attention, then challenge kids for gawking as he tottered through the hall wearing high heels.

Some kids ran from him; they were uncomfortable, witnesses said. It seems a lot of boys were afraid of Larry King.

This gay was costantly hammering down on that poor kid and NOONE defended him.

So the school children were unnecessarily afraid, probably because of their parents (or, again, people like you in general) making people like Larry out to be monsters, and Larry had a crush on Brandon and was not afraid to express it, as well as his own sexuality in general. As a result, Brandon kills him. He kills a kid who was made fun of, who was teased, who was probably himself confused, trying awkwardly to accept who he was and to be accepted by others, to express his honest love for another classmate. Kills him.

Unnecessary violence. I'm never going to defend that. Was there anything stopping Brandon from taking any other course of action? No? I thought not.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

For the people who REFUSE to read because they are AFRAID of the TRUTH, here's some quotes from the article which is CLEARLY biased against the white straight male.







This gay was costantly hammering down on that poor kid and NOONE defended him.

So the school children were unnecessarily afraid, probably because of their parents (or, again, people like you in general) make people like Larry out to be monsters and Larry had a crush on Brandon and was not afraid to express it, as well as his own sexuality. As a result, Brandon kills him. He kills a kid who was made fun of, who was teased, who was probably himself confused, trying awkwardly to accept who he was and to be accepted by others, to express his honest love for another classmate. Kills him.

Unnecessary violence. I'm never going to defend that. Was there anything stopping him from taking any other course of action? No?

Rhodmhire, I vote you for President of the United States.

[The-German-Volk]

I don't even know how to respond to that.

I feel like I'm talking to a martian, I simply have to way of following your logic. There is no way for me to try and see it from your point of view to discuss it.
This is just... ugh.

When I try to get my head around people like you my brain just screams "UGH!" in pain

No, not martian, simply what most people would call "rational", perhaps "logical", or maybe "LGBT Ally", and what have you.

Most people in my country would call you extremely emotional or insane.
I'm sorry but what you're doing is the opposite of being rational. You're clinging on your excuse of "BUT IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY MURDER!" to avoid the fact this could have been easily avoided had the gay been stopped and the victim of sexual harassment shown some support.

[Rhodmhire]

Rhodmhire, I vote you for President of the United States.

I love you too, friend, but I'm a bit too young and a bit unelectable at the moment.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

No, not martian, simply what most people would call "rational", perhaps "logical", or maybe "LGBT Ally", and what have you.

Most people in my country would call you extremely emotional or insane.
I'm sorry but what you're doing is the opposite of being rational. You're clinging on your excuse of "BUT IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY MURDER!" to avoid the fact this could have been easily avoided had the gay been stopped and the victim of sexual harassment stopped.

Yes, this was clearly worthy of murder, and it was clearly sexual harrassment instead of high schoolers joking around.

What country do you live in?

[Grave_n_idle]

No, not martian, simply what most people would call "rational", perhaps "logical", or maybe "LGBT Ally", and what have you.

Most people in my country would call you extremely emotional or insane.
I'm sorry but what you're doing is the opposite of being rational. You're clinging on your excuse of "BUT IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY MURDER!" to avoid the fact this could have been easily avoided had the gay been stopped and the victim of sexual harassment shown some support.

You certainly seem to believe that, but it's conjecture.

Worse, it blames the victim. It's the same kind of argument that justifies rape by saying women 'ask for it'.

[The-German-Volk]

Most people in my country would call you extremely emotional or insane.
I'm sorry but what you're doing is the opposite of being rational. You're clinging on your excuse of "BUT IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY MURDER!" to avoid the fact this could have been easily avoided had the gay been stopped and the victim of sexual harassment stopped.

Yes, this was clearly worthy of murder, and it was clearly sexual harrassment instead of high schoolers joking around.

What country do you live in?

A country where people are treated equally, not like America where if you are White, male and straight you are dirt while if you belong to a minority you can bend laws as much as you want.

The murder could have been avoided very easily, instead Brandon was driven to doing something regrettable by the costant harassment.

What do you think Brandon should have done after everyone refused to help him? Take it up the ass (literally) to be nice to a minority?

[D Cubed Sigma X Squared]

I didn't read anything about what you are talking about in that article... This said, since when has murder ever been a proper response to anything in a scholastic environment?

That is not my point.

The poor kid was DESTROYED by that evil gay.

Since the article is clearly biased against the white straight male I wouldn't be surprised if he did much worse than what reported (which is still disgusting and criminal).

Gays have been made untouchable by law.

Your opinion is DESTROYING me. Your ignorance is causing a huge amount of cerebral hemorrhaging, as it probably is for many other people.
Therefore, I should kill you.
Disconnect?
I get to have my opinion, but I do not get to force it on others.