Obama's job speech to Congress

[German Zerabithea]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/09/08/ ... ?hpt=hp_c1

I did not see any other thread for this, so sorry if some one else already made one.

So, what do you guys think? I personalty agree with Obama, we don't have 14 months, and congress needs to start working together to fix the economy.

[Les Drapeaux Brulants]

You mean his first campaign speech for 2012? Nothing new, nothing good. Just the same old stuff that didn't work before -- paying off teachers unions, construction unions, and demogouging the idea that the rich don't pay their fair share of taxes.

[Atlantian Empire]

You mean his first campaign speech for 2012? Nothing new, nothing good. Just the same old stuff that didn't work before -- paying off teachers unions, construction unions, and demogouging the idea that the rich don't pay their fair share of taxes.

They don't pay their fair share. GE pays less in taxes than poor people do.

Boehner looked like he was staring down his nose at Obama, even laughing at him, even rolled his eyes at him. Guy comes across as a racist.

[Occupied Deutschland]

You mean his first campaign speech for 2012? Nothing new, nothing good. Just the same old stuff that didn't work before -- paying off teachers unions, construction unions, and demogouging the idea that the rich don't pay their fair share of taxes.

They don't pay their fair share. GE pays less in taxes than poor people do.

Boehner looked like he was staring down his nose at Obama, even laughing at him, even rolled his eyes at him. Guy comes across as a racist.

GE doesn't/didn't pay taxes.
DO you recall seeing this man during the speech (I was watching it on Fox, maybe they didn't cut to him on the other networks)?
Do you recall what Obama mentioned about his "Jobs Council"?
Do you know who is the chairman of that Council?
Yeah...

As to Boehner looking down at Obama...Maybe. Don't you normally look down on someone when you're seated above them? (NOte: Don't pay attention to the people in the photograph but how the daises/tables are arranged. See how the one Boehner and Biden were sitting at is above the one Obama was at? Yeah...)

[Nansurium]

I really really like some parts of his plan and I really really hate others. I guess you can mark me down as undecided. I want to wait and see the actual practical applications of this speech in the legislative process before I decide.

[Augustus Este]

They don't pay their fair share. GE pays less in taxes than poor people do.

Boehner looked like he was staring down his nose at Obama, even laughing at him, even rolled his eyes at him. Guy comes across as a racist.

GE doesn't/didn't pay taxes.
DO you recall seeing this man during the speech (I was watching it on Fox, maybe they didn't cut to him on the other networks)?
Do you recall what Obama mentioned about his "Jobs Council"?
Do you know who is the chairman of that Council?
Yeah...

As to Boehner looking down at Obama...Maybe. Don't you normally look down on someone when you're seated above them? (NOte: Don't pay attention to the people in the photograph but how the daises/tables are arranged. See how the one Boehner and Biden were sitting at is above the one Obama was at? Yeah...)

To me it looks like Boehner is sitting below him...



And to the person who said the rich were paying their fair share, I lol'd.

[Vetalia]

Infrastructure bank and spending- good ideas that should be passed as soon as possible. Payroll tax cut and extending unemployment, not so much.

TBH, I'm concerned more by how gray Obama's hair is...

[Offenheim]

You mean his first campaign speech for 2012? Nothing new, nothing good. Just the same old stuff that didn't work before -- paying off teachers unions, construction unions, and demogouging the idea that the rich don't pay their fair share of taxes.

You see "paying off" others see "putting to work".

"Demogouging" is an interesting word. I know you mean "demagogue" but the combination of "demo-" meaning: to try out or people and "gouge" meaning to rip-off has a certain free-market flair which I think you shouldn't underestimate.

You mean his first campaign speech for 2012? Nothing new, nothing good. Just the same old stuff that didn't work before -- paying off teachers unions, construction unions, and demogouging the idea that the rich don't pay their fair share of taxes.

They don't pay their fair share. GE pays less in taxes than poor people do.

Boehner looked like he was staring down his nose at Obama, even laughing at him, even rolled his eyes at him. Guy comes across as a racist.

Way to immediately inject race into this. Boehner is a Republican responding to a president from the opposite party, and sits above and behind the guy while the camera is positioned above and facing the trio of the Speaker, Vice President, and President. You try to appear like you're not looking down your nose at someone with those angles.

[Atlantian Empire]

They don't pay their fair share. GE pays less in taxes than poor people do.

Boehner looked like he was staring down his nose at Obama, even laughing at him, even rolled his eyes at him. Guy comes across as a racist.

GE doesn't/didn't pay taxes.
DO you recall seeing this man during the speech (I was watching it on Fox, maybe they didn't cut to him on the other networks)?
Do you recall what Obama mentioned about his "Jobs Council"?
Do you know who is the chairman of that Council?
Yeah...

As to Boehner looking down at Obama...Maybe. Don't you normally look down on someone when you're seated above them? (NOte: Don't pay attention to the people in the photograph but how the daises/tables are arranged. See how the one Boehner and Biden were sitting at is above the one Obama was at? Yeah...)

Your point? GE doesn't but should pay taxes, and that guy shouldn't be on the council. You can't be defend what they don't pay but should. And Boehner wasn't seated above him, they are pretty much on the same level. Or maybe you misunderstood the term "look down".

[Occupied Deutschland]

Infrastructure bank and spending- good ideas that should be passed as soon as possible. Payroll tax cut and extending unemployment, not so much.

TBH, I'm concerned more by how gray Obama's hair is...

I noticed that too. President is looking ROUGH.

[Les Drapeaux Brulants]

GE doesn't/didn't pay taxes.
DO you recall seeing this man during the speech (I was watching it on Fox, maybe they didn't cut to him on the other networks)?
Do you recall what Obama mentioned about his "Jobs Council"?
Do you know who is the chairman of that Council?
Yeah...

As to Boehner looking down at Obama...Maybe. Don't you normally look down on someone when you're seated above them? (NOte: Don't pay attention to the people in the photograph but how the daises/tables are arranged. See how the one Boehner and Biden were sitting at is above the one Obama was at? Yeah...)

Your point? GE doesn't but should pay taxes, and that guy shouldn't be on the council. You can't be defend what they don't pay but should. And Boehner wasn't seated above him, they are pretty much on the same level. Or maybe you misunderstood the term "look down".

What do you think happens to consumer prices when taxes are raised on corporations? What do you think happens to the workforce when a corporation's revenues are reduced? Only a liberal or a Democrat could possibly believe that raising corporate taxes has no ill effects on the economy.

[Occupied Deutschland]

GE doesn't/didn't pay taxes.
DO you recall seeing this man during the speech (I was watching it on Fox, maybe they didn't cut to him on the other networks)?
Do you recall what Obama mentioned about his "Jobs Council"?
Do you know who is the chairman of that Council?
Yeah...

As to Boehner looking down at Obama...Maybe. Don't you normally look down on someone when you're seated above them? (NOte: Don't pay attention to the people in the photograph but how the daises/tables are arranged. See how the one Boehner and Biden were sitting at is above the one Obama was at? Yeah...)

Your point? GE doesn't but should pay taxes, and that guy shouldn't be on the council. You can't be defend what they don't pay but should. And Boehner wasn't seated above him, they are pretty much on the same level. Or maybe you misunderstood the term "look down".

I agree with you, GE doesn't but should pay taxes and Immelt shouldn't be on the council. My point was that the government is the one encouraging their bad behavior, as you put it "not paying their fair share".

And yes, Boehner is seated above him, examine any photo of Congress and you will note that the dais Boehner was seated at was above the one Obama was speaking at.

[Vetalia]

I noticed that too. President is looking ROUGH.

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It must be tough being President in these days; people bitch about his vacation, but look at the guy! He's been working himself to the bone lately...you don't get that kind of stress laying around on the job.

[Atlantian Empire]

Your point? GE doesn't but should pay taxes, and that guy shouldn't be on the council. You can't be defend what they don't pay but should. And Boehner wasn't seated above him, they are pretty much on the same level. Or maybe you misunderstood the term "look down".

What do you think happens to consumer prices when taxes are raised on corporations? What do you think happens to the workforce when a corporation's revenues are reduced? Only a liberal or a Democrat could possibly believe that raising corporate taxes has no ill effects on the economy.

Have you ever talked to a Liberal or a Democrat? That's not true. Only a conservative would defend huge companies like GE paying zero taxes. How is it fair that somebody who make 20K a year pays a higher tax rate than a multi-billion dollar conglomerate? You can't promise what will happen, and can't defend their rate based on it.

[Hydesland]

Infrastructure bank and spending- good ideas that should be passed as soon as possible. Payroll tax cut and extending unemployment, not so much.

Of all the tax cuts that one could do, payroll tax cut is one of the best IMO.

[Atlantian Empire]

Your point? GE doesn't but should pay taxes, and that guy shouldn't be on the council. You can't be defend what they don't pay but should. And Boehner wasn't seated above him, they are pretty much on the same level. Or maybe you misunderstood the term "look down".

I agree with you, GE doesn't but should pay taxes and Immelt shouldn't be on the council. My point was that the government is the one encouraging their bad behavior, as you put it "not paying their fair share".

And yes, Boehner is seated above him, examine any photo of Congress and you will note that the dais Boehner was seated at was above the one Obama was speaking at.

Looking down is mostly based on his expressions. He came across like he was laughing at him. rolling his eye. Stuff like that, it's an expression.

[Atlantian Empire]

Infrastructure bank and spending- good ideas that should be passed as soon as possible. Payroll tax cut and extending unemployment, not so much.

Of all the tax cuts that one could do, payroll tax cut is one of the best IMO.

Social Security is funded via payroll taxes, that is the concern.

[Hydesland]

Of all the tax cuts that one could do, payroll tax cut is one of the best IMO.

Social Security is funded via payroll taxes, that is the concern.

The deficit simply should not be a concern in general right at this present moment, especially when borrowing real rates are essentially negative for the government. Right now getting growth is more important, in fact it's more important even if you only care about the deficit, because the leading cause of low tax revenue for social security and government in general is the stagnant economy.

[The Black Forrest]

Your point? GE doesn't but should pay taxes, and that guy shouldn't be on the council. You can't be defend what they don't pay but should. And Boehner wasn't seated above him, they are pretty much on the same level. Or maybe you misunderstood the term "look down".

What do you think happens to consumer prices when taxes are raised on corporations? What do you think happens to the workforce when a corporation's revenues are reduced? Only a liberal or a Democrat could possibly believe that raising corporate taxes has no ill effects on the economy.

Tax cuts have done so well.......well for the wealthy class.

Let me guess more tax cuts and corp tax cuts will put people back to work right?

[The Black Forrest]

Of all the tax cuts that one could do, payroll tax cut is one of the best IMO.

Social Security is funded via payroll taxes, that is the concern.

Indeed. That was probably for the teapublicans as they HATE social security.

[Farnhamia]

What do you think happens to consumer prices when taxes are raised on corporations? What do you think happens to the workforce when a corporation's revenues are reduced? Only a liberal or a Democrat could possibly believe that raising corporate taxes has no ill effects on the economy.

Tax cuts have done so well.......well for the wealthy class.

Let me guess more tax cuts and corp tax cuts will put people back to work right?

That's right. A few more weeks in re-education camp and you'll be ready to rejoin your fellow workers, building the fortunes of the rich. Good lad.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

You mean his first campaign speech for 2012? Nothing new, nothing good. Just the same old stuff that didn't work before -- paying off teachers unions, construction unions, and demogouging the idea that the rich don't pay their fair share of taxes.

Rich pay their fair share?

[SaintB]

To me it looks like Boehner is sitting below him...



And to the person who said the rich were paying their fair share, I lol'd.

They don't need most of the services the same way the poor do so by paying less they pay their fair share!

[Thatius]

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[United Gackle]

I hope US doesn't re elect Obama he is a fucking nut job lil info of the day did you know he had the picture of Churchill taken down? i just hope the next US President puts it back up because Churchill deserves to get remembered