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The Capital of the World should be in...

Europe
92
40%
Asia
15
7%
North America
58
25%
Middle East/North Africa
12
5%
South America
4
2%
Oceania
7
3%
Sub-Saharan Africa
3
1%
Antarctica
14
6%
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Postby Asumbuoy » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:20 pm

Keronians wrote:
Asumbuoy wrote:It should be in the birthplace of mankind, wherever the hell that was ...


You want the capital of the world to be in Kenya?



Kenya might not be such a bad place in the 40,000 years it takes the world to form a single nation.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:21 pm

Keronians wrote:Not having replaced it does not necessarily mean that the US is at Rome's level.

When Rome was around, no other power was even around at the time. Well, you did have China... But it was pretty isolationist and did not impact the World in the same way Rome did.

Erm. . . not really sure of when it was invented, but I'd say things like paper and gunpowder impacted the world pretty extremely.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:24 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Keronians wrote:Not having replaced it does not necessarily mean that the US is at Rome's level.

When Rome was around, no other power was even around at the time. Well, you did have China... But it was pretty isolationist and did not impact the World in the same way Rome did.

Erm. . . not really sure of when it was invented, but I'd say things like paper and gunpowder impacted the world pretty extremely.


Gunpowder was invented in Europe, IIRC.

Define "paper". Because depending on your definition, it was either invented in the 1800s or much, much earlier.
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Postby Jurasika » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:25 pm

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:28 pm

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Sibirsky wrote:So what? Nobody has replaced the US as the leading power. China is a joke. Japan is up there, as well as Germany, UK, France, but not at US levels. The US is fucking massive.


Hows China a joke? 0.o They may be the leading economic power within the decade.

GDP is irrelevant. GDP/capita is important. And China is a joke by that metric.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:29 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Soviet Russia Republic wrote:
Hows China a joke? 0.o They may be the leading economic power within the decade.

GDP is irrelevant. GDP/capita is important. And China is a joke by that metric.


GDP is not irrelevant...

But yeah, I do agree that GDP per capita is more important.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:29 pm

Keronians wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:So what? Nobody has replaced the US as the leading power. China is a joke. Japan is up there, as well as Germany, UK, France, but not at US levels. The US is fucking massive.


Not having replaced it does not necessarily mean that the US is at Rome's level.

When Rome was around, no other power was even around at the time. Well, you did have China... But it was pretty isolationist and did not impact the World in the same way Rome did.

I am not saying the US is at Rome's level. I am saying it is the leading power. And New York, is it's most important city.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:30 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Not having replaced it does not necessarily mean that the US is at Rome's level.

When Rome was around, no other power was even around at the time. Well, you did have China... But it was pretty isolationist and did not impact the World in the same way Rome did.

I am not saying the US is at Rome's level. I am saying it is the leading power. And New York, is it's most important city.


Oh, that yes.

But idk. I'd rather London or Berlin, myself. New York may be the financial capital of the world, but... I really don't know why I prefer London.

I think it's because I'm still amazed at the time I went to Southall in London. Felt like I was back in India, I tell you. They were even talking in Hindi everywhere, and there was the odd sign in Hindi.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:31 pm

Keronians wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:GDP is irrelevant. GDP/capita is important. And China is a joke by that metric.


GDP is not irrelevant...

But yeah, I do agree that GDP per capita is more important.

Ok, not irrelevant. But not as important as GDP/capita. I don't really give a shit about economic clout. I care about the well being of the average resident. Cuz I hate the poor.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:31 pm

Keronians wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:I am not saying the US is at Rome's level. I am saying it is the leading power. And New York, is it's most important city.


Oh, that yes.

But idk. I'd rather London or Berlin, myself. New York may be the financial capital of the world, but... I really don't know why I prefer London.

I think it's because I'm still amazed at the time I went to Southall in London. Felt like I was back in India, I tell you. They were even talking in Hindi everywhere, and there was the odd sign in Hindi.


I <3 London.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:32 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Keronians wrote:
GDP is not irrelevant...

But yeah, I do agree that GDP per capita is more important.

Ok, not irrelevant. But not as important as GDP/capita. I don't really give a shit about economic clout. I care about the well being of the average resident. Cuz I hate the poor.


How about we kill them all off? ;)
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Postby Jordsindia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:32 pm

Uhhh, either New York, Tokyo, or Singapore.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:33 pm

Keronians wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:I am not saying the US is at Rome's level. I am saying it is the leading power. And New York, is it's most important city.


Oh, that yes.

But idk. I'd rather London or Berlin, myself. New York may be the financial capital of the world, but... I really don't know why I prefer London.

I think it's because I'm still amazed at the time I went to Southall in London. Felt like I was back in India, I tell you. They were even talking in Hindi everywhere, and there was the odd sign in Hindi.


In Germany I prefer Munich or Frankfurt over Berlin.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:34 pm

Sibirsky wrote:I hate the poor.


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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:35 pm

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Sibirsky wrote:I hate the poor.


My suspicions were correct all along! BOURGEOISIE!

Can you give me your mailing address so I can mail you a working sarcasm detector?
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:35 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Oh, that yes.

But idk. I'd rather London or Berlin, myself. New York may be the financial capital of the world, but... I really don't know why I prefer London.

I think it's because I'm still amazed at the time I went to Southall in London. Felt like I was back in India, I tell you. They were even talking in Hindi everywhere, and there was the odd sign in Hindi.


In Germany I prefer Munich or Frankfurt over Berlin.


Maybe... But Munich and Frankfurt aren't as influential as Berlin.

NYC is up there in terms of influence in comparison to DC.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:36 pm

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:
My suspicions were correct all along! BOURGEOISIE!

Can you give me your mailing address so I can mail you a working sarcasm detector?


Check your mailbox first, I think. :p
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:39 pm

Keronians wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:
In Germany I prefer Munich or Frankfurt over Berlin.


Maybe... But Munich and Frankfurt aren't as influential as Berlin.

NYC is up there in terms of influence in comparison to DC.


Well, it's really simple.

Finance > politics.

Hence, NYC > DC. Frankfurt > Berlin. Capisce?

Munich was there because of Bayern and BMW. I <3 BMW and Bayern.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:42 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Maybe... But Munich and Frankfurt aren't as influential as Berlin.

NYC is up there in terms of influence in comparison to DC.


Well, it's really simple.

Finance > politics.

Hence, NYC > DC. Frankfurt > Berlin. Capisce?

Munich was there because of Bayern and BMW. I <3 BMW and Bayern.


Bayern Munchen... Good point.

But I still like Real Madrid more.

In terms of finance, London would be second then, I think.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:45 pm

Keronians wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:
Well, it's really simple.

Finance > politics.

Hence, NYC > DC. Frankfurt > Berlin. Capisce?

Munich was there because of Bayern and BMW. I <3 BMW and Bayern.


Bayern Munchen... Good point.

But I still like Real Madrid more.

In terms of finance, London would be second then, I think.


Second in importance, not size. Tokyo, and NYC are bigger.

Sorry, not a Real fan. Barcelona is my La Liga team.
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Postby Soxastan » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:57 pm

All the interesting threads have Sibirsky on them. Anyway...

The Capitol of the World.

NYC: big population, multicultural, home of the U.N, not too many objections.
Rome: Center of Western Civilization, historically significant, somewhat centralized location.
Paris: Home of European Culture, Historically significant, a somewhat centralized location.
Berlin: Somewhat centralized, economically significant.
Istanbul: Culturally significant, Historically significant, centralized location, sounds cool.
Athens: Home of Democracy, centralized, culturally and historically significant.
Jerusalem: Holy Land, culturally, historically significant, very centralized.

To me, the Capital of the World should be a beacon of Utopia, significant to the world, and must be centralized. Asian cities would be good choices as well, but lack a central location. India, due to it's growing population, will become the most populous nation. Right now, it's China. The average person is a 27 year old Han Chinese Man, so China would accurately portray the world. Western cultures however would object, since they claim Western culture is more important. Until we can build a Moon/Space Colony, the Capitol shall be undecided.

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Postby Gernonai » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:00 pm

Why dont we make two cities right where the equator and prime meridian meet? They are both technically the most centrilized locations. They might have to be a man-made island, but that might work.
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Postby Soxastan » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:03 pm

Gernonai wrote:Why dont we make two cities right where the equator and prime meridian meet? They are both technically the most centrilized locations. They might have to be a man-made island, but that might work.

One would be off the coast of Africa and the other right in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It's not feasible. Unless it was an underground/submarine facility, it's not feasible.

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:06 pm

Soxastan wrote:All the interesting threads have Sibirsky on them. Anyway...

That's because they're interesting ;)
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Postby Gernonai » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:06 pm

Soxastan wrote:
Gernonai wrote:Why dont we make two cities right where the equator and prime meridian meet? They are both technically the most centrilized locations. They might have to be a man-made island, but that might work.

One would be off the coast of Africa and the other right in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It's not feasible. Unless it was an underground/submarine facility, it's not feasible.


Just an idea... no, i believe that Switzerland should host the capital of the world. They are one of the most peaceful countries in history.
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