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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:10 am

Steel and Fire wrote: but it wasn't politically correct to criticise Hitler's Soviet Union either and that only got us a harbor full of sunken ships.


Choo Choo, all aboard the hate train! :)
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Postby Kemal Ataturks left sock » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:11 am

Steel and Fire wrote:Oh it's worse than that. Some of the liberal hippie commies going out and protesting have kids to feed. What do you suppose their kids feel about their parents quitting their jobs to protest in the park, getting thrown in jail and leaving them to starve? Do you think they would approve if they knew that their parents were fighting to destroy the American way of life under brainwashing from the Obamunist administration, while leaving them destitute and unloved?

Let's face it, if you support the wall street protests you support murdering children, no way around it really. Sure it's not politically correct to say so, but it wasn't politically correct to criticise Hitler's Soviet Union either and that only got us a harbor full of sunken ships. The protestors are the political correctness Gestapo, and this is their Kristallnacht.


I hear Chairman Mao himself is backing these protests man.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:13 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:But see, then it would not be a related question shedding light and perspective on this topic.

Instead, it would be a random hit job on protests whose goals I don't support by creating a stereotype about the protesters to delegitimize their position and then couching my character assassination and snark in the guise of a question as if I was interested in legitimate discussion while at the same time aggressively dismissing people providing a broader perspective. Doing such a thing without any proper context would be intellectually dishonest. I mean, who would do such a thing...?

You're not interested in a legitimate discussion on the topic.

I do, but I want an honest one.
You-Gi-Owe wrote:No where in the topic have I said that the protestors didn't have a right to protest.

Well, it's a good thing I didn't accuse you of saying such a thing, then, isn't it?
You-Gi-Owe wrote: The closest thing I said that might call into question the legitimacy of their position was that they may have been "inspired" to protest by liberal college professors,

Which is exactly what I said you did. At least we're on the same page.
You-Gi-Owe wrote: whose views I did not denigrate.

Now now, we can all read what you wrote.
You-Gi-Owe wrote:I intend this to be my last response to you in this topic.

Now whose not interested in discussion?
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Postby Steel and Fire » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:15 am

Kemal Ataturks left sock wrote:
Steel and Fire wrote:Oh it's worse than that. Some of the liberal hippie commies going out and protesting have kids to feed. What do you suppose their kids feel about their parents quitting their jobs to protest in the park, getting thrown in jail and leaving them to starve? Do you think they would approve if they knew that their parents were fighting to destroy the American way of life under brainwashing from the Obamunist administration, while leaving them destitute and unloved?

Let's face it, if you support the wall street protests you support murdering children, no way around it really. Sure it's not politically correct to say so, but it wasn't politically correct to criticise Hitler's Soviet Union either and that only got us a harbor full of sunken ships. The protestors are the political correctness Gestapo, and this is their Kristallnacht.


I hear Chairman Mao himself is backing these protests man.

Pol Pot is the opening speaker at their panel on Friday (whose working title, I hear, is "Death to the Decadent Capitalist Western Pigs and Up with the Global Workers' Revolution of Prosperity"). They invited Kim Jong-Il, but he was too busy snorting coke off Osama bin Laden's corpse.
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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:16 am

Steel and Fire wrote:
Kemal Ataturks left sock wrote:
I hear Chairman Mao himself is backing these protests man.

Pol Pot is the opening speaker at their panel on Friday (whose working title, I hear, is "Death to the Decadent Capitalist Western Pigs and Up with the Global Workers' Revolution of Prosperity"). They invited Kim Jong-Il, but he was too busy snorting coke off Osama bin Laden's corpse.


Sounds like quite the party.
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Postby Meryuma » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:17 am

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The Republic of Lanos wrote:Let's see. I would be disappointed in my kids if they went out and supported socialism and wanted the destruction of capitalism.

So would my parents.


Apart from these protesters are not calling for that.


They aren't calling for anything, really.
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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:20 am

Fanaglia wrote:No, but taxing and regulating the banks and multinational corporations would be a nice start. Or the implementation of a "one person, one vote, one dollar" policy* when it comes to campaign donations. Or the removal of corporate personhood.

*Before someone goes "Ohhh, but one dollar per person!? Do you know how expensive a political campaign costs? ZOMG!" (because I know someone will), the "one dollar" part doesn't necessarily have to be "one dollar." It just needs to put a reasonable cap on campaign donations so that everyone has a chance for equal say. Maybe $1000. Just throwing that out there.


Corporations are taxed in fact that's pretty much the only reason we're able to function as a country with our tax rates this low and our spending this high.

The argument that you shouldn't be able to do something because not everyone can afford to is ridiculous.

I completely agree that corporate personhood is stupid but the sentiment behind it makes sense. A corporation really is just a group of people, why shouldn't an organization be able to spend it's money how it chooses?
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Postby Kemal Ataturks left sock » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:21 am

Steel and Fire wrote:Pol Pot is the opening speaker at their panel on Friday (whose working title, I hear, is "Death to the Decadent Capitalist Western Pigs and Up with the Global Workers' Revolution of Prosperity"). They invited Kim Jong-Il, but he was too busy snorting coke off Osama bin Laden's corpse.


Kim Jong-Il, he's the pope of Iran right?

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:23 am

Hippostania wrote:Their parents must be ashamed that their kids are bothering honest hard-working people like bums and criminals.


Tell me about it. What did the bums and criminals ever do to deserve this?

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Postby Maji Matamu » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:30 am

By Yu-Gi-Owe's provided definitions, the civil rights sit-ins were horrible socialist riots, and their parents should be ashamed to have paid those kids' college tuitions.

I am glad that I don't follow Yu-Gi-Owe's definitions.

Now, let us ask a deeper question: what would you do as the parent of a college student who spends all of his/her time as a left- or right-wing shill on NationStates rather than studying? :D

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Postby Steel and Fire » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:33 am

Kemal Ataturks left sock wrote:
Steel and Fire wrote:Pol Pot is the opening speaker at their panel on Friday (whose working title, I hear, is "Death to the Decadent Capitalist Western Pigs and Up with the Global Workers' Revolution of Prosperity"). They invited Kim Jong-Il, but he was too busy snorting coke off Osama bin Laden's corpse.


Kim Jong-Il, he's the pope of Iran right?

Is he? I thought he was the president of Mexico, or whichever country Muslims come from. You know, the Muslims that we're building a wall around the country to keep out. Maybe Canada?
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Postby Kemal Ataturks left sock » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:41 am

Steel and Fire wrote:Is he? I thought he was the president of Mexico, or whichever country Muslims come from. You know, the Muslims that we're building a wall around the country to keep out. Maybe Canada?


No, don't be ridiculous, Canada is a town in Alaska, Muslims come from the Midwest.

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Postby The Floridian Coast » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:46 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:So, I’m looking at this and some photos of the young skulls full of mush that are out there, marching, some at the behest of their liberal professors, and I’m imagining, “suppose I’m a parent and I see my kid, that I’m paying college tuition and textbooks and room and board for, what’s going to be my reaction.? What is going to be the majority reaction of parents seeing their kid on television, marching and not studying?

IMHO, good luck, kid. Come home when you're ready for manual labor.


IMHO, anyone who goes to college exclusively for the sake of a degree which theoretically guarantees them a higher paying job has wasted their college experience.

Few things I am more grateful for than that I had in fall of 2009 a "Marxist professor" that conservatives dread, the man changed my life, convinced me that my politics were not a pipe dream but something tangible. Study and revolution go hand in hand.

"Leaders of the socialist movement were the writers and students of social science and politics." - Eric Fromm. That is why I study social science, not so my college years can produce a six figure income later in my life, I have no desire to attempt to be one of the few proletarian the ruling class throw a bone to for the sake of preserving this lie of "equality of opportunity", I study, inside and outside the classroom, so I can be part of a collective force for change one day.

Every student out there is marching for the sake of their own future, and that march is just as important to their future as their classes are. Neither are mutually exclusive.
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Postby Serrland » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:51 am

Also, why is there an assumption that parents are paying for uni? That's a false assumption in so many cases, my own included.

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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:52 am

Maji Matamu wrote:By Yu-Gi-Owe's provided definitions, the civil rights sit-ins were horrible socialist riots, and their parents should be ashamed to have paid those kids' college tuitions.

I am glad that I don't follow Yu-Gi-Owe's definitions.

Now, let us ask a deeper question: what would you do as the parent of a college student who spends all of his/her time as a left- or right-wing shill on NationStates rather than studying? :D

your quote, my bold.
Which definitions have I provided?
impressionable students = young skulls full of mush?
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Postby Terra Agora » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:57 am

Obviously everyone at Occupy Wall Street is a liberal :roll: correct OP?
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Postby Sremski okrug » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:59 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Maji Matamu wrote:By Yu-Gi-Owe's provided definitions, the civil rights sit-ins were horrible socialist riots, and their parents should be ashamed to have paid those kids' college tuitions.

I am glad that I don't follow Yu-Gi-Owe's definitions.

Now, let us ask a deeper question: what would you do as the parent of a college student who spends all of his/her time as a left- or right-wing shill on NationStates rather than studying? :D

your quote, my bold.
Which definitions have I provided?
impressionable students = young skulls full of mush?


That everyone in the protest is being persuaded to join by liberal professors.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:00 pm

Terra Agora wrote:Obviously everyone at Occupy Wall Street is a liberal :roll: correct OP?

It's more that You-Gi-Owe was never young, I think.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:00 pm

Terra Agora wrote:Obviously everyone at Occupy Wall Street is a liberal :roll: correct OP?

Or a socialist, or a commie, or a dupe, or looking to get laid. Yup. :p
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Postby Terra Agora » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:01 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:Obviously everyone at Occupy Wall Street is a liberal :roll: correct OP?

Or a socialist, or a commie, or a dupe, or looking to get laid. Yup. :p

:palm: No.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:01 pm

Sremski okrug wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:your quote, my bold.
Which definitions have I provided?
impressionable students = young skulls full of mush?


That everyone in the protest is being persuaded to join by liberal professors.

Really? That isn't what was written in the OP.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:02 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Or a socialist, or a commie, or a dupe, or looking to get laid. Yup. :p

:palm: No.

Interestingly, they all seem to be white. No racial diversity.
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Postby Sremski okrug » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:03 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:Obviously everyone at Occupy Wall Street is a liberal :roll: correct OP?

Or a socialist, or a commie, or a dupe, or looking to get laid. Yup. :p


cannot tell if joking or just an idiot.
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Postby Kemal Ataturks left sock » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:03 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:Interestingly, they all seem to be white. No racial diversity.


I've seen footage of a couple of black people.

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Postby Sremski okrug » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:04 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Sremski okrug wrote:
That everyone in the protest is being persuaded to join by liberal professors.

Really? That isn't what was written in the OP.


I suggest you re-read your OP.
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