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Postby Ovisterra » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:17 am

My parents would react strongly, but I dunno which way. Possibly neutral. They've always let me dictate my own political views.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:17 am

Katganistan wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Not the topic.

Surely (dis)respect for political ideologies go both ways?

Did the kids pay their parents money that was supposed to go their education?
Then it will be a relevant question.
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Postby Serrland » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:19 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:These kids remind me of Pinocchio,
where the kids runaway from home or school and left to their own they become jack-asses, good only for manual/slave labor.


Wait. So because students spend some time taking part in a legitimate expression of political opinion they are now on the road to ruin? My goodness.

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Postby Ovisterra » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:19 am

If I had kids and they did it, I would admire them for standing up for what they believe in. Political Apathy is a pet peeve of mine.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:21 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:These kids remind me of Pinocchio,
where the kids runaway from home or school and left to their own they become jack-asses, good only for manual/slave labor.

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He does look kind of like my African history professor...
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:23 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:These kids remind me of Pinocchio,
where the kids runaway from home or school and left to their own they become jack-asses, good only for manual/slave labor.

Image
He does look kind of like my African history professor...
...OH MY GOD!

I like this ^ . :hug:
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:28 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Surely (dis)respect for political ideologies go both ways?

Did the kids pay their parents money that was supposed to go their education?
Then it will be a relevant question.

So basically, your respect levels depend on how much you've paid for them? or how much money you owe?
I'm not sure what your point is.

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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:30 am

Let's see. I would be disappointed in my kids if they went out and supported socialism and wanted the destruction of capitalism.

So would my parents.

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Postby Belvadaire » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:30 am

I think the youth have a better chance of withstanding police beatens then an older person would, any parent that love there country knowing that their teenager have the strength to stand and fight for the nations freedoms, they will support that, I reallythink that those protestor shoulb be making a lot of citizens arrest out there, a lot of right is being violated by officer of the law on wall street. I casn't believe other countries just letting the USA do that, china is already tense about the US currency, and warned the US of consequences, which means to me, china will challenge the USA any day if needed to. Wall street needs to be occupied and theGoverment of the USA needs to become smaller. yes a true patriot parent will support they son or duaghter to stand for what is right.


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Postby Meryuma » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:31 am

Hippostania wrote:
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Which is still peaceful and in no way a riot...

Nope, it's a full-scale riot. The NYPD should intervene and stop this nonsense.


A riot means there's actual fighting. It's just a really large protest. Furthermore, what are you suggesting?

You-Gi-Owe wrote:These kids remind me of Pinocchio,
where the kids runaway from home or school and left to their own they become jack-asses, good only for manual/slave labor.


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Postby Sremski okrug » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:32 am

The Republic of Lanos wrote:Let's see. I would be disappointed in my kids if they went out and supported socialism and wanted the destruction of capitalism.

So would my parents.


Apart from these protesters are not calling for that.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:35 am

Sremski okrug wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Let's see. I would be disappointed in my kids if they went out and supported socialism and wanted the destruction of capitalism.

So would my parents.


Apart from these protesters are not calling for that.


Well Wall Street is the symbol of capitalism...and those kids would be nowhere without the system of which they despise so much.

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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:35 am

Mod hat on: A friendly reminder to kindly not continue to flail about with the stereotypes, and cheap jabs at your opponents and the like, thank you.And now after taking mod hat off ...

Mountain, molehill ... it's one day. I highly doubt that taking one day to protest something either they believe in, want to take part in, or even just using as an excuse to miss school is going to horribly damage their future, cause them to drop out of college, or cost their parents/bank/whoever is paying their fees currently an arm and a leg.

So long as it's peaceful, let them protest. It's a right we all have over here in the good old USA, like it or not. Inconvenient to some? Quite possibly. A waste of time? Perhaps. Egged on by others? As if any cause that gets protested isn't, one way or another. But still - a right, and no I wouldn't flip out if my daughter were taking part.

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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:36 am

Katganistan wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Did the kids pay their parents money that was supposed to go their education?
Then it will be a relevant question.

So basically, your respect levels depend on how much you've paid for them? or how much money you owe?
I'm not sure what your point is.

The point of the OP is where does the economics of the parents meet their understanding of thier children.
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Postby Lubyak » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:38 am

I personally think they're misguided.

I respect their right to protest, and I disprove of some of the rough handling of the situation by the NYPD, but I still feel like they're misguided. They're lashing out at the most visible sign of a system that they feel is to blame for the way the economy is going right now.

In my opinion, I feel like they need to realize that if anything Wall Street WANTS nothing more than to see the eocnomy get back on its feet. If the economy is on its feet, then the money keeps flowing in to Wall Street. If the economy is down, then it doesn't (as much.)

However, the talk of 'revolution' does frighten me some...but still. It's not exactly like they're organized enough or presenting any real demands. I do have to agree that their claim of being the 99% is wrong. I can't help but feel that the majority of the country just wants things to go back to normal. Trying to stage a revolution just isn't going to accomplish that.

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Postby Kemal Ataturks left sock » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:41 am

My parents are generally pretty supportive when I go and protest.

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Postby Timurid Empire » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:41 am

If a parent's child is 18 years old or older, they are legally allowed to make their own choices, however popular or unpopular they are with the parents.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:43 am

Timurid Empire wrote:If a parent's child is 18 years old or older, they are legally allowed to make their own choices, however popular or unpopular they are with the parents.

And the parents have the right not to continue funding the kids' higher educations, right?
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:45 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Timurid Empire wrote:If a parent's child is 18 years old or older, they are legally allowed to make their own choices, however popular or unpopular they are with the parents.

And the parents have the right not to continue funding the kids' higher educations, right?


You do have a point there. Parents would like to see their kids grow up and succeed. This would be the case in a family with a first-generation college student.

It's instinctual. Just the same as cutting them off to try to bring them back to reality. They're trying to help them.

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Postby Pag-Aalisa » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:46 am

As if cutting class for two days is a big deal. All my professors ever did when I went to the RNC or G20 was tell me to grab notes from a classmate and make sure I did any work on the syllabus. Which I had plenty of time to do on the roadtrips.

Also, this whole liberal professors thing is as hilarious as always.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:50 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:But a related question that can shed light on the topic and put it in perspective.

Fine, make your own topic about what kids think about their parents antics-actions.
I hope you find a good answer.

But see, then it would not be a related question shedding light and perspective on this topic.

Instead, it would be a random hit job on protests whose goals I don't support by creating a stereotype about the protesters to delegitimize their position and then couching my character assassination and snark in the guise of a question as if I was interested in legitimate discussion while at the same time aggressively dismissing people providing a broader perspective. Doing such a thing without any proper context would be intellectually dishonest. I mean, who would do such a thing...?
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:02 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Mod hat on: A friendly reminder to kindly not continue to flail about with the stereotypes, and cheap jabs at your opponents and the like, thank you.And now after taking mod hat off ...

Mountain, molehill ... it's one day. I highly doubt that taking one day to protest something either they believe in, want to take part in, or even just using as an excuse to miss school is going to horribly damage their future, cause them to drop out of college, or cost their parents/bank/whoever is paying their fees currently an arm and a leg.

So long as it's peaceful, let them protest. It's a right we all have over here in the good old USA, like it or not. Inconvenient to some? Quite possibly. A waste of time? Perhaps. Egged on by others? As if any cause that gets protested isn't, one way or another. But still - a right, and no I wouldn't flip out if my daughter were taking part.

This too shall pass.

And you believe that the students are only taking one day?
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Postby Kemal Ataturks left sock » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:03 am

Hippostania wrote:I try not to fall on hard times in the first place. I always have some money saved in case something like that would happen, and I generally try to avoid events like that.


So let's say you get hit by a car and can no longer work, once the saved money runs out how are you going to stay at your private clinic?

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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:07 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Fine, make your own topic about what kids think about their parents antics-actions.
I hope you find a good answer.

But see, then it would not be a related question shedding light and perspective on this topic.

Instead, it would be a random hit job on protests whose goals I don't support by creating a stereotype about the protesters to delegitimize their position and then couching my character assassination and snark in the guise of a question as if I was interested in legitimate discussion while at the same time aggressively dismissing people providing a broader perspective. Doing such a thing without any proper context would be intellectually dishonest. I mean, who would do such a thing...?

You're not interested in a legitimate discussion on the topic.
No where in the topic have I said that the protestors didn't have a right to protest. The closest thing I said that might call into question the legitimacy of their position was that they may have been "inspired" to protest by liberal college professors, whose views I did not denigrate.
I intend this to be my last response to you in this topic.
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Postby Steel and Fire » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:07 am

Oh it's worse than that. Some of the liberal hippie commies going out and protesting have kids to feed. What do you suppose their kids feel about their parents quitting their jobs to protest in the park, getting thrown in jail and leaving them to starve? Do you think they would approve if they knew that their parents were fighting to destroy the American way of life under brainwashing from the Obamunist administration, while leaving them destitute and unloved?

Let's face it, if you support the wall street protests you support murdering children, no way around it really. Sure it's not politically correct to say so, but it wasn't politically correct to criticise Hitler's Soviet Union either and that only got us a harbor full of sunken ships. The protestors are the political correctness Gestapo, and this is their Kristallnacht.
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