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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:23 am

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The Irish are so politically apathetic that though we all complain, no one does anything.

We do love complaining, though. :)

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Postby Meryuma » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:27 am

/b/ must really annoyed at these people.
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Occupy Wall Street: What Do You Suppose Parents Think?

Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:28 am

News for all of the NSG anarchists and their opponents:
Wall Street protest organizer admits to Al Sharpton: Revolution is the goal
Joe Newby
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October 4, 2011 - Like this? Subscribe to get instant updates.
Harrison Schultz, an organizer of the "Occupy Wall Street" protests, told Al Sharpton on MSNBC Monday evening that revolution is the goal of the protests that have now spread across the country.
"I think that this is the beginning of a revolution in this country," he said after wishing Sharpton a happy birthday.
Schultz, a professional sociologist, said the group wants change, but is uncertain how to go about doing it.
The reason apparently has to do with the radicals that make up the protest.
"Part of the problem, part of the issue is that I think that a lot of the people that are here are in fact anarchists, are in fact revolutionaries," he said.
He continued: "And putting a revolution, putting a revolutionary change into political terms is very difficult to do. Because we're trying to get away from all the problems."
"Again, we don't really want to fix them: it's revolution, not reform," he said, admitting the protests are about instigating a revolution in America.

So, I’m looking at this and some photos of the young skulls full of mush that are out there, marching, some at the behest of their liberal professors, and I’m imagining, “suppose I’m a parent and I see my kid, that I’m paying college tuition and textbooks and room and board for, what’s going to be my reaction.? What is going to be the majority reaction of parents seeing their kid on television, marching and not studying?

IMHO, good luck, kid. Come home when you're ready for manual labor.
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Postby Malgrave » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:29 am

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Are you this dense on purpose? Their is a reason most civilized countries have policies like universal healthcare and welfare. Last time I checked France had a Right wing government in power.

Well, the US doesn't have universal health care (thank god!) and they're doing just fine.


The United Kingdom has universal healthcare (thank god) and I doing just fine. I know people that could not afford medical treatment if universal healthcare was abolished.
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Postby Malgrave » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:30 am

I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
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Postby Meryuma » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:32 am

This seems ageist.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:32 am

Malgrave wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Well, the US doesn't have universal health care (thank god!) and they're doing just fine.


The United Kingdom has universal healthcare (thank god) and I doing just fine. I know people that could not afford medical treatment if universal healthcare was abolished.

Agreed. I find it funny that the reason my family couldn't afford healthcare is because of free trade. Or people to be specific.
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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:33 am

I'd wonder why I as a parent think my kids should be constantly studying.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:34 am

I don't know. What did the the kids think when their parents were dangling tea bags from their hats and protesting what someone on the radio told them the health care reform was about?
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:35 am

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:I'd wonder why I as a parent think my kids should be constantly studying.

If you wonder why your kid ought to be studying, it seems silly to spend money on them for college/university in the first place.
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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:36 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:I'd wonder why I as a parent think my kids should be constantly studying.

If you wonder why your kid ought to be studying, it seems silly to spend money on them for college/university in the first place.
:roll:


I said "constantly".
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:36 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:I don't know. What did the the kids think when their parents were dangling tea bags from their hats and protesting what someone on the radio told them the health care reform was about?

Not the topic.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:37 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I don't know. What did the the kids think when their parents were dangling tea bags from their hats and protesting what someone on the radio told them the health care reform was about?

Not the topic.

But a related question that can shed light on the topic and put it in perspective.
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Postby Volnotova » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:38 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:News for all of the NSG anarchists and their opponents:
Wall Street protest organizer admits to Al Sharpton: Revolution is the goal
Joe Newby
Spokane Conservative Examiner
October 4, 2011 - Like this? Subscribe to get instant updates.
Harrison Schultz, an organizer of the "Occupy Wall Street" protests, told Al Sharpton on MSNBC Monday evening that revolution is the goal of the protests that have now spread across the country.
"I think that this is the beginning of a revolution in this country," he said after wishing Sharpton a happy birthday.
Schultz, a professional sociologist, said the group wants change, but is uncertain how to go about doing it.
The reason apparently has to do with the radicals that make up the protest.
"Part of the problem, part of the issue is that I think that a lot of the people that are here are in fact anarchists, are in fact revolutionaries," he said.
He continued: "And putting a revolution, putting a revolutionary change into political terms is very difficult to do. Because we're trying to get away from all the problems."
"Again, we don't really want to fix them: it's revolution, not reform," he said, admitting the protests are about instigating a revolution in America.

So, I’m looking at this and some photos of the young skulls full of mush that are out there, marching, some at the behest of their liberal professors, and I’m imagining, “suppose I’m a parent and I see my kid, that I’m paying college tuition and textbooks and room and board for, what’s going to be my reaction.? What is going to be the majority reaction of parents seeing their kid on television, marching and not studying?

IMHO, good luck, kid. Come home when you're ready for manual labor.


I am unsure how I would react if my son or daughter would do such a thing.

Let's just say I would be less then amused.

And that is an understatement.

Also, I do not support the occupation of Wall Street
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Postby Serrland » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:39 am

"...some at the behest of their liberal professors..."

*cue the Maoist anti-intellectual purge*

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Postby Sremski okrug » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:39 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:News for all of the NSG anarchists and their opponents:
Wall Street protest organizer admits to Al Sharpton: Revolution is the goal
Joe Newby
Spokane Conservative Examiner
October 4, 2011 - Like this? Subscribe to get instant updates.
Harrison Schultz, an organizer of the "Occupy Wall Street" protests, told Al Sharpton on MSNBC Monday evening that revolution is the goal of the protests that have now spread across the country.
"I think that this is the beginning of a revolution in this country," he said after wishing Sharpton a happy birthday.
Schultz, a professional sociologist, said the group wants change, but is uncertain how to go about doing it.
The reason apparently has to do with the radicals that make up the protest.
"Part of the problem, part of the issue is that I think that a lot of the people that are here are in fact anarchists, are in fact revolutionaries," he said.
He continued: "And putting a revolution, putting a revolutionary change into political terms is very difficult to do. Because we're trying to get away from all the problems."
"Again, we don't really want to fix them: it's revolution, not reform," he said, admitting the protests are about instigating a revolution in America.

So, I’m looking at this and some photos of the young skulls full of mush that are out there, marching, some at the behest of their liberal professors, and I’m imagining, “suppose I’m a parent and I see my kid, that I’m paying college tuition and textbooks and room and board for, what’s going to be my reaction.? What is going to be the majority reaction of parents seeing their kid on television, marching and not studying?

IMHO, good luck, kid. Come home when you're ready for manual labor.


:palm:

My parents would support my political activism. The people marching on wall street are intelligent people with a mix of political opinions and age groups.

Nice stereotyping YGO. Why don't you listen to people with less offensive opinions.
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parents probably aren't any happier than the protesters

Postby California Terra Prime » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:40 am

Oh my god, people are unhappy with our system where the top 400 people have more wealth than the bottom 150 million people! How dare they! Unhappy cause the banks got bailed out and the people got jack shit? Ingrates! Talk of a revolution and they aren't advocating right wing positions? Libanazis! Run for the hills right wingers! RUN! :palm:

In other words, the right wingers' response to this is either really damn funny or really damn sad.

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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:40 am

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:If you wonder why your kid ought to be studying, it seems silly to spend money on them for college/university in the first place.
:roll:


I said "constantly".

Okay, for you, would you be wondering why the college-university professor is telling your kid to skip class, or why your kid is skipping class of his/her own initiative and wasting your investment in him/her?
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Postby Sremski okrug » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:42 am

Hippostania wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:Wow. Its going to be so interesting to see how you respond if the market ever takes a dump on you.

Also, aren't you from Finland? If so, I assume that because you are so against state run health care, you yourself never actually use it?

Nope, I go to a private clinic. It's a bit more expensive but at least I don't have to wait for weeks to get treatment.


So because you can afford it everyone else can and universal healthcare is wrong? My parents can afford private medical insurance it does not mean that everyone else in the country can and I don't support universal healthcare.
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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:42 am

if my son were sleeping outside in a new york city park i would be terrified that he would be killed. id be terrified that he would be arrested and killed in jail.

but i would think it was cool that he was involved in it otherwise.
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Postby Sremski okrug » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:44 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
I said "constantly".

Okay, for you, would you be wondering why the college-university professor is telling your kid to skip class, or why your kid is skipping class of his/her own initiative and wasting your investment in him/her?


Of course these people are being fooled into protesting by their evil liberal professors! It's not like the people protesting are intelligent people who formed their own opinions

Take the propaganda somewhere else. :palm:
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Postby Hippostania » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:46 am

Their parents must be ashamed that their kids are bothering honest hard-working people like bums and criminals.
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Postby Moral Libertarians » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:46 am

California Terra Prime wrote:Oh my god, people are unhappy with our system where the top 400 people have more wealth than the bottom 150 million people! How dare they! Unhappy cause the banks got bailed out and the people got jack shit? Ingrates! Talk of a revolution and they aren't advocating right wing positions? Libanazis! Run for the hills right wingers! RUN! :palm:

In other words, the right wingers' response to this is either really damn funny or really damn sad.


:lol:

Seriously, I disagree with this occupation, but not for the reasons that YGO has put forward.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:46 am

Sremski okrug wrote:My parents would support my political activism. The people marching on wall street are intelligent people with a mix of political opinions and age groups.

Nice stereotyping YGO. Why don't you listen to people with less offensive opinions.

Well, perhaps, or perhaps not, your parents might be wealthy enough to piss that money away.
I hope it gets you a good job.

I haven't seen a demographic on the age and political leanings of the protestors.
Did you think the news quote was offensive?
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Postby Hippostania » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:46 am

Sremski okrug wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Nope, I go to a private clinic. It's a bit more expensive but at least I don't have to wait for weeks to get treatment.


So because you can afford it everyone else can and universal healthcare is wrong? My parents can afford private medical insurance it does not mean that everyone else in the country can and I don't support universal healthcare.

Sure, support universal health care. But don't take money from those who don't want to support it.
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