Anonymous to Occupy Wall Street and Create Megathread

[New Conglomerate]

It might not be cops.


That being said, the cops are definitely sending vagrants to the camps in an effort to make it look like there's a problem.

The Zucotti Park kitchen staff certainly went on strike because of freeloaders a couple of weeks ago. Homeless and drug addicts who came of their own volition for the good food and free weed.

Ah, the old "they're stoners" defense.

I'm done here.

[Andaluciae]

One guy who bragged about how he was the only one willing to actually try to get into the museum. After all, it wasn't until another protester jacked a guard up against a wall that the pepper spray was used.

At this point in the protests, "shoved up against the wall" was code for "bumped".

Have you even watched the video? The tall white guy jacks a guard up against a wall. Under bu circumstances can it be understood as a "bump".

[Andaluciae]

The Zucotti Park kitchen staff certainly went on strike because of freeloaders a couple of weeks ago. Homeless and drug addicts who came of their own volition for the good food and free weed.

Ah, the old "they're stoners" defense.

I'm done here.

Wait...what? Where did I say anything about weed being bad? Merely, I referenced the fact that some uninvolved freeloaders came to take advantage of what was being offered, and abused the trust of the Zucotti park protesters.

[Sskiss]

That's a very convincing argument.

Thank you, I think it is too

They looked like "cops in disguise"?

Yes, Exactly! In other words they do not look or act convincingly like real protesters. Like police pretending to be protesters... You know, some of us can see things like that... What? Do I have to spell it out to you?

What on Earth does that even mean?

Obtuse too...

That's ridiculous.

Is it?... Seems to me you can believe the opposite... as stated in your last sentence below. Your 'mind' only works one way, yes? Can someone say "biased"...

Sounds more like the same type of black bloc tactics that have been used repeatedly by radical anti-globalization protesters trying to elicit a response from the police. Just like what happened in Seattle, is happening in Athens, and was attempted at Cannes. It sounds like it down to a T.

Ah yes, the inevitable. You can't simply imagine that it can be the other way around, can you?... You're not worth my time, bye now...

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Or just a troll.

He's too ideologically coherent (by totalitarian standards) for it to be likely.

You weren't around fro MKULTRA and The Red Arrow, huh? He kept up the facade for a year or so, as I remember.

[New Conglomerate]

He's too ideologically coherent (by totalitarian standards) for it to be likely.

You weren't around fro MKULTRA and The Red Arrow, huh? He kept up the facade for a year or so, as I remember.

No, I wasn't. That bad, eh?

[Zaras]

He's too ideologically coherent (by totalitarian standards) for it to be likely.

You weren't around fro MKULTRA and The Red Arrow, huh? He kept up the facade for a year or so, as I remember.

I hope those are on NSWiki or something.

[Andaluciae]

Thank you, I think it is too



Yes, Exactly! In other words they do not look or act convincingly like real protesters. Like police pretending to be protesters... You know, some of us can see things like that... What? Do I have to spell it out to you?



Obtuse too...



Is it?... Seems to me you can believe the opposite... as stated in your last sentence below. Your 'mind' only works one way, yes? Can someone say "biased"...

Ah yes, the inevitable. You can't simply imagine that it can be the other way around, can you?... You're not worth my time, bye now...

So, I'm actually taking time to try to discuss this with you, and you clock out because you disagree with me? Sounds like the worst debate tactic ever.

Seriously, look at how black bloc tactics have been utilized at various anti-globalization protests. What was described sounds exactly like that particular tactic. Elicit a heavy handed response from the police in front of the cameras. That's why the WTO only meets in authoritarian countries now...because they want to avoid that sort of stuff.

[Andaluciae]

You weren't around fro MKULTRA and The Red Arrow, huh? He kept up the facade for a year or so, as I remember.

No, I wasn't. That bad, eh?

Truly masterful, deep troll, demonstration of Poe's law. It was amazing. Just like Jesussaves back in the day.

[Allrule]

No, I wasn't. That bad, eh?

Truly masterful, deep troll, demonstration of Poe's law. It was amazing. Just like Jesussaves back in the day.

Run this by me, since I wasn't around.

Exactly what the hell happened?

[Zaras]

Truly masterful, deep troll, demonstration of Poe's law. It was amazing. Just like Jesussaves back in the day.

Run this by me, since I wasn't around.

Exactly what the hell happened?

I'd like ta know too.

[United Dependencies]

I remember jesussaves. Red arrow isn't that familiar.

[Andaluciae]

Run this by me, since I wasn't around.

Exactly what the hell happened?

I'd like ta know too.

Red arrow/MKULTRA presented an effort to argue for the most absurd collection of conspiracy theories. It was protracted, and lasted over a year, and survived the deletion of the first account, and the creation of the second. I don't rightly remember which poster was behind it, though...

[Sskiss]

So, I'm actually taking time to try to discuss this with you, and you clock out because you disagree with me? Sounds like the worst debate tactic ever.

Actually, no, I'm getting bored.... No really... Look, I know i can come off a little brash and snarky (some say its part of my charm - no really!), But, you have to understand, I have no preference or "agenda". I've dedicated my life to only one thing. The seeking of reality. And I will seek it, regardless of where it takes me. I'm a free spirit.

Seriously, look at how black bloc tactics have been utilized at various anti-globalization protests. What was described sounds exactly like that particular tactic. Elicit a heavy handed response from the police in front of the cameras. That's why the WTO only meets in authoritarian countries now...because they want to avoid that sort of stuff.

Look, I got nothing against you personally, but read my post again. Where in it do I deny your point of view or claim that you are wrong? I claimed you are biased (but that's not the same thing, now, is it?), and you are, but that does not mean that you were incorrect in what you claimed. In all likelyhood, you are right. However, the mop flops both ways...

Until then tootles.

Moral of the day; Its easy to point your own finger away from you, but so much more difficult to point that same finger at you.

[JuNii]

pack up the tents... the party's over.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 1A1I4H.DTL

[Zaras]

Somewhere, Hippostania is ecstatic.

[JuNii]

Moral of the day; Its easy to point your own finger away from you, but so much more difficult to point that same finger at you.

it's easy... point your finger at someone... now look carefully... you have three other fingers pointing back at you...

[Neo Nibu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... q3BYw4xjxE

Enjoy.

[Smudgedonia]

tempted to go down to my local occupy pitch with a hose.

Give the smelly bastards a wash, they've made the whole place smell like an open sewer

[Fellrike]

The OWS protests are done. They had a good thing going for a while, and I sympathize with some of what they stand for, but they allowed a fringe of angry extremists and wierdos to become the face and voice of their movement, and although there were also some veterans, unemployed and others represented, they were drowned out by more raucous and radical elements. I didn't see any American flags on display, either. Why not? When you have a rally in a country as ideological as ours, you have to wrap yourself in the flag, if you want public support.
Sometimes, I wonder why you liberals allow us (the American right wing) to appropriate patriotic symbols, which rightfully belong to you as much as they do to us. Not that we don't appreciate it!
Anyway, these guys were more popular than the Tea Party, at one point, and they could have gone on to accomplish something, but I don't see that happening now. We're a media-driven culture, and OWS should have been more media-conscious- the mainstream media were generally sympathetic, as were many Democratic mayors and other political figures - and worked harder to portray themselves as ordinary Americans, but now they look like a bunch of dirty hippies and derelicts who are nothing like the average man in the street. They've lost their fight. A part of me is even sorry to see it. But, there you are.

[Greed and Death]

The OWS protests are done. They had a good thing going for a while, and I sympathize with some of what they stand for, but they allowed a fringe of angry extremists and wierdos to become the face and voice of their movement, and although there were also some veterans, unemployed and others represented, they were drowned out by more raucous and radical elements. I didn't see any American flags on display, either. Why not? When you have a rally in a country as ideological as ours, you have to wrap yourself in the flag, if you want public support.
Sometimes, I wonder why you liberals allow us (the American right wing) to appropriate patriotic symbols, which rightfully belong to you as much as they do to us. Not that we don't appreciate it!
Anyway, these guys were more popular than the Tea Party, at one point, and they could have gone on to accomplish something, but I don't see that happening now. We're a media-driven culture, and OWS should have been more media-conscious- the mainstream media were generally sympathetic, as were many Democratic mayors and other political figures - and worked harder to portray themselves as ordinary Americans, but now they look like a bunch of dirty hippies and derelicts who are nothing like the average man in the street. They've lost their fight. A part of me is even sorry to see it. But, there you are.

They seem to be going for one last push on Thursday. Expect violence.

[Fellrike]

They seem to be going for one last push on Thursday. Expect violence.

Yes, I am expecting violence, but hopefully we'll both turn out to be wrong.

[Greater Tezdrian]

Finally, the Government has come to it's senses. I'm hearing reports of midnight raids, beatings, and pepper spray. Batons are also being used and the word 'crackdown' is being brandied about. These are all wonderful things and I'm nearly giddy with joy.

[Zaras]

Finally, the Government has come to it's senses. I'm hearing reports of midnight raids, beatings, and pepper spray. Batons are also being used and the word 'crackdown' is being brandied about. These are all wonderful things and I'm nearly giddy with joy.

You... are happy... about possible police brutality.

Does... not... compute...

[Allrule]

Finally, the Government has come to it's senses. I'm hearing reports of midnight raids, beatings, and pepper spray. Batons are also being used and the word 'crackdown' is being brandied about. These are all wonderful things and I'm nearly giddy with joy.

You... are happy... about possible police brutality.

Does... not... compute...

Tezzy's our local fascist.

Par for the course. Move along, nothing to see here.