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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:06 am

Meowfoundland wrote:It's kinda awful of the police to throw their property all over the place.

They brought in a garbage truck. Looks like they're going to dump it all.

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Almost 20,000 viewers now. It was ~6,000 when I first posted.
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:10 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
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Well this is a recipe for disaster.

They've brought in an LRAD. This should be fun.

The stream keeps cutting out though. Its damn frustrating.


Although I wouldn't doubt the LRAD, the report of "snipers" seems extremely farfetched, and bring credibility into question. Nobody would be insane, or stupid, enough to bring in snipers in this event.

That all said, what's Bloomberg's reasoning? I'm guess it's a tad strategic, considering winter is just around the corner, and getting rid of all the amenities is going to make life miserable. Or so the thought goes.
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Postby Forster Keys » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:14 am

Meowfoundland wrote:It's kinda awful of the police to throw their property all over the place.


Thinking this would probably inflame the situation and put wind into the sails of the movement rather than anything else.
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Postby Dark Side Messiahs » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:14 am

Edlichbury wrote:Pathetic. Trying to shut down Wall Street for "months" is like trying to find a conservative Christian on NS.


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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:15 am

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OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They've brought in an LRAD. This should be fun.

The stream keeps cutting out though. Its damn frustrating.


Although I wouldn't doubt the LRAD, the report of "snipers" seems extremely farfetched, and bring credibility into question. Nobody would be insane, or stupid, enough to bring in snipers in this event.

That all said, what's Bloomberg's reasoning? I'm guess it's a tad strategic, considering winter is just around the corner, and getting rid of all the amenities is going to make life miserable. Or so the thought goes.

I don't think there would be much point to snipers in this situation anyway...Sounds like somebody's just trying to be dramatic.

And yeah, that's probably the idea. Hopefully they can get enough donations to occupy the area again. Just to spite the NY administration.

EDIT:
Is it even legal for the police to destroy personal property like that?
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Postby Forster Keys » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:15 am

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OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They've brought in an LRAD. This should be fun.

The stream keeps cutting out though. Its damn frustrating.


Although I wouldn't doubt the LRAD, the report of "snipers" seems extremely farfetched, and bring credibility into question. Nobody would be insane, or stupid, enough to bring in snipers in this event.

That all said, what's Bloomberg's reasoning? I'm guess it's a tad strategic, considering winter is just around the corner, and getting rid of all the amenities is going to make life miserable. Or so the thought goes.


I was thinking that too. The number's would probably drop right down during the winter time, at least the nightstayers anyway.
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Postby Forster Keys » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:16 am

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Edlichbury wrote:Pathetic. Trying to shut down Wall Street for "months" is like trying to find a conservative Christian on NS.


Am I really the only one?


You're probably the seventieth person to say that so far.
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Postby Malgrave » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:17 am

It's exploding on twitter at the moment with reports that journalists are being threatened with arrest and being forced away from the area in an attempt for the clear out not to be filmed.
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Postby Meowfoundland » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:18 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Is it even legal for the police to destroy personal property like that?


Even if it is illegal I doubt anything will be done.

Also, CNBC turned up.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:19 am

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OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Is it even legal for the police to destroy personal property like that?


Even if it is illegal I doubt anything will be done.

Also, CNBC turned up.

Rather sad. I wonder how many thousands of dollars in damage that is that will never be paid back.

Too bad they suddenly switched streams.

Is it just me, or does LIvestream have a habit of cutting out right when something interesting happens?
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Postby Dark Side Messiahs » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:20 am

Forster Keys wrote:
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Am I really the only one?


You're probably the seventieth person to say that so far.


Yay, I'm not alone! *happy dance*
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:22 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
Seangoli wrote:
Although I wouldn't doubt the LRAD, the report of "snipers" seems extremely farfetched, and bring credibility into question. Nobody would be insane, or stupid, enough to bring in snipers in this event.

That all said, what's Bloomberg's reasoning? I'm guess it's a tad strategic, considering winter is just around the corner, and getting rid of all the amenities is going to make life miserable. Or so the thought goes.

I don't think there would be much point to snipers in this situation anyway...Sounds like somebody's just trying to be dramatic.

And yeah, that's probably the idea. Hopefully they can get enough donations to occupy the area again. Just to spite the NY administration.

EDIT:
Is it even legal for the police to destroy personal property like that?


Yeah, snipers would be worse than useful for a multitude of reasons. And serve no purpose. It's possible they may have officers on the roofs as surveillance, but that's about it.

As for the second, it's a going theme. Take generators and heaters away for safety reasons(Which is a legitimate argument), however conveniently before a huge storm is headed for NY(Which destroys the previous argument). Taking their gear away(As they can't actually kick them off the property) on the verge of when weather is going to start to get nasty to force them to leave. It's all just a bit strategic for my liking, and I'm not prone to conspiracy(nor am I much a follower of the Occupy movement itself).

As for the destroying of property, technically yes they can. As the Park does not allow tents and the like, and as the protestors have been given fair warning(in the legal terms), the officers can destroy their material. Not saying it's right, not saying I agree with it, but the action is fully legal given the circumstances.

Edit: The most distressing part, in my mind, is that the Press seem barred from entering the area. Which is a definite risk on the side of the New York administration, and if things turn sour will turn quite bad for them no matter the cause.

Imagine the headline on that beast. The press being barred from documenting the eviction, only for a violent upstart to happen? And the city didn't allow the press to document the events leading up to it? Doesn't matter if it's the Occupiers starting it, or the police, or just some random drunk, the News agencies will have a field day with that. It's a massive risk on the city's part, and one I don't think they should be taking frankly.
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Postby Dromoda » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:25 am

in holland are already 700.000 peaple on the streets

national and international media keeps this quiet

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Postby Malgrave » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:26 am

Just saw this tweet.

BBC reporting NYPD barred press from observing. Reporter quoted saying "I'm Press", Officer: "Not tonight".


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Postby Seangoli » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:28 am

Malgrave wrote:Just saw this tweet.

BBC reporting NYPD barred press from observing. Reporter quoted saying "I'm Press", Officer: "Not tonight".


:palm:


Brilliant. See above post for why I think this is a terrible idea on the Bloomberg's part.

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Postby Malgrave » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:40 am

several incoming reports i've heard on twitter.

- Police officer attempted to remove press pass from NBC reporter, when he could not he told the reporter to remove it himself
- Rubbish is being dumped into the personal belongings of protesters
- Various accounts of brutality
- The Subway and various other transportation networks have been shut down
- CBS news helicopters forced to leave by NYPD
- Guardian reporter threatened with arrest and being forced to phone fellow reporter in Hong Kong to tell him whats going on though the live stream even though he's only a few blocks away
- Wide spread reports of other press officials having their passes taken away and being threatened with arrest.

Really? What has happened to America. :palm:
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Postby Malgrave » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:41 am

Apparently the area around the park has been turned into a no-fly zone.
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Postby Dark Side Messiahs » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:43 am

Malgrave wrote:several incoming reports i've heard on twitter.

- Police officer attempted to remove press pass from NBC reporter, when he could not he told the reporter to remove it himself
- Rubbish is being dumped into the personal belongings of protesters
- Various accounts of brutality
- The Subway and various other transportation networks have been shut down
- CBS news helicopters forced to leave by NYPD
- Guardian reporter threatened with arrest and being forced to phone fellow reporter in Hong Kong to tell him whats going on though the live stream even though he's only a few blocks away
- Wide spread reports of other press officials having their passes taken away and being threatened with arrest.

Really? What has happened to America. :palm:


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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:43 am

I can confirm the garbage report from the Livestream. Looks like the NYPD and sanitation department are just throwing EVERYTHING in the park into a huge pile to take to the dump.
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Postby Speculine » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:44 am

Right to assembly, gone.

Nothing will be done about this.
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Postby Forster Keys » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:52 am

Dromoda wrote:in holland are already 700.000 peaple on the streets

national and international media keeps this quiet


Wha? Source or sarcasm?
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Postby Malgrave » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:54 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:I can confirm the garbage report from the Livestream. Looks like the NYPD and sanitation department are just throwing EVERYTHING in the park into a huge pile to take to the dump.


They've destroyed 5,000 books from the library at the event apparently.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:55 am

Looks like a police officer is giving his final notice for the occupiers to leave. Stuff's about to go down.
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Postby Dark Side Messiahs » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:58 am

Mark my words, the time will come when peaceful protesting wont be in the cards and the bodies of both protester and oppressor will litter the streets.
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Postby Forster Keys » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:59 am

Malgrave wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:I can confirm the garbage report from the Livestream. Looks like the NYPD and sanitation department are just throwing EVERYTHING in the park into a huge pile to take to the dump.


They've destroyed 5,000 books from the library at the event apparently.


Not liking the symbolism there...
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