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Postby JuNii » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:52 pm

we're at the start of another ressession... I got an Idea... Let's try to shut down wall street! :palm:
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Postby Hittanryan » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:53 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:What the parents thought would depend on their political bent. It's a peaceful protest, not a riot.

That said, You-Gi-Owe wouldn't be making a stink about this if it was a teabagger protest blocking traffic somewhere. An openly conservative news outlet from the other side of the country probably isn't the most reliable source for an anti-corporate protest in New York, either.

Any arrests at Tea Party events?
Any Tea Party types cited for blocking traffic?
Any Tea Party type even leaving litter after one of their events?
I think the answer to those three questions is, "no".

Bit of an assumption there. Assuming makes an ass out of you and me, and all that. Besides, if teabaggers got arrested, then you would be up in arms about freedom of assembly, and cite it as evidence of an Obama police state, or whatever it is you think you're fighting against.

EDIT: Or write it off as a "fringe element," not representative of the movement as a whole, when you claim these Wall Street kids are evidence of some communist revolution.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:54 pm

JuNii wrote:we're at the start of another ressession... I got an Idea... Let's try to shut down wall street! :palm:

Yeah like the guys at wall street aren't the cause of said recession....I can do this to. :palm:

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Postby Revolutopia » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:55 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:

Ya got me. I forgot about that particular incident and fringe group of the tea party.


Got to love how when the side supporting your cause is arrest they are just fringe, yet the otherside the is arrested it proof of the entire movement.

Additionally, I should be no surprise that the police are more willing to arrest youths then they are people who are middle age or seniors, as one group has more political clout. Can you guess who?
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Postby Augustus Este » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:57 pm

Wait, you do realize that revolution doesn't actually have to mean an armed uprising,it just means rapid change over a short period of time.

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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:58 pm

Augustus Este wrote:Wait, you do realize that revolution doesn't actually have to mean an armed uprising,it just means rapid change over a short period of time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_Revolution

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Postby Central Slavia » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:00 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Augustus Este wrote:Wait, you do realize that revolution doesn't actually have to mean an armed uprising,it just means rapid change over a short period of time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_Revolution

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That one was a contrarevolution, mind you.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:02 pm

Central Slavia wrote:

That one was a contrarevolution, mind you.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:04 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Ya got me. I forgot about that particular incident and fringe group of the tea party.


Got to love how when the side supporting your cause is arrest they are just fringe, yet the otherside the is arrested it proof of the entire movement.

Additionally, I should be no surprise that the police are more willing to arrest youths then they are people who are middle age or seniors, as one group has more political clout. Can you guess who?


That's politics. When your side gets caught doing something bad, declare them a fringe and distance yourself from it but when the other side gets caught doing the same thing, lump them all together as one.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:05 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:What the parents thought would depend on their political bent. It's a peaceful protest, not a riot.

That said, You-Gi-Owe wouldn't be making a stink about this if it was a teabagger protest blocking traffic somewhere. An openly conservative news outlet from the other side of the country probably isn't the most reliable source for an anti-corporate protest in New York, either.

Any arrests at Tea Party events?

Three people arrested at a tea party rally in Arizona.
Ten arrested here
this one with video.

You-Gi-Owe wrote:I think the answer to those three questions is, "no".

Well, two out of three, but the last one I more or less gave up on because I was tired of tooling through site after site repeating the same crowing about how the Glenn Beck rally was cleaner than the One Nation rally based on random photos...conceded by attrition of talking points.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:09 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Any arrests at Tea Party events?

Three people arrested at a tea party rally in Arizona.
Ten arrested here
this one with video.


Remember, those are all fringe members who do not represent the actual Tea Party. Now if they had been union members, those thugs would have represented ALL unions.
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Postby Iron Chariots » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:10 pm

Gauthier wrote:


Remember, those are all fringe members who do not represent the actual Tea Party. Now if they had been union members, those thugs would have represented ALL unions.

hell, they would have represented everybody to left of Bill O'Reilly in that case.
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Postby Beringovia » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:20 pm

If parents had seen me take part in this sort of protest while I was in college, they would have shaken their heads, and admonished me to be careful, but as long as I was doing my school work and getting good grades i would not have been cut off.

If I had a kid in college and know he/she were taking part in this protests, I would have him or her kidnapped and deprogramed.

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Postby Patoma » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:20 pm

As a parent, I would want my kids to be enlighten enough to understand that there is a fine line between being a fanatical opinionated thinker and advocating your right as a citizen in a democratic country. We can not continue to discourage young people from seek a role in the system that claims that all citizens have equal right. Preventing them from voicing their opinion is another way for the rich republicans to maintain control over others.

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Postby Patoma » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:21 pm

As a parent, I would want my kids to be enlighten enough to understand that there is a fine line between being a fanatical opinionated thinker and advocating your right as a citizen in a democratic country. We can not continue to discourage young people from seek a role in the system that claims that all citizens have equal right. Preventing them from voicing their opinion is another way for the rich republicans to maintain control over others.

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Postby Romatticus » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:24 pm

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So let me get this straight. You say it's going to be historic, then say it's a ruse by law enforcement? You act untouchable, as if your knowledge of computers makes you God. Which, from what I have seen of your posts, that would sum up Anon perfectly. Idiots with a God complex. You all act as if you are noble crusaders, fighting for the voice of the people, when in reality, they hate you. Anon is an abnoxius, self-rightous, self-serving organisation, and I laugh everytime one is arrested. That is the lolz that I get from Anon. Wake up and smell the shit.


Those who act influence history. Those who sit and laugh at those with the gall and balls to act are nothing more than the impotent bystanders wallowing in their own intellectual-sophistry. I admire Anon, as I admire the leaders of WikiLeaks. They drop stones into the churning pool of life, and the tidal waves caused by their "antics" will influence history for the centuries to come, one dropped stone at a time. One DDoS attact at a time, and one tsunami of revealed telegrams at a time, these individuals will change the course of the future despite your scorn.

Simply "acting" does not make a cause just. In many scenarios, this one included, setting out on a baseless, self-righteous crusade such as as this is actually foolish.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:25 pm

Beringovia wrote:If parents had seen me take part in this sort of protest while I was in college, they would have shaken their heads, and admonished me to be careful, but as long as I was doing my school work and getting good grades i would not have been cut off.

If I had a kid in college and know he/she were taking part in this protests, I would have him or her kidnapped and deprogramed.


Why would you have them brainwashed to support the status quo?
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Postby Revolutopia » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:28 pm

I don't know how my parents would react as during their youth teenagers and college students had a deep respect for the government and conservative society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Vietnam_War_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-wave_feminism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_movement

Yep, just a deep respect for authority and no protesting for them.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:30 pm

Revolutopia wrote:I don't know how my parents would react as during their youth teenagers and college students had a deep respect for the government and conservative society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Vietnam_War_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-wave_feminism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_movement

Yep, just a deep respect for authority and no protesting for them.


But those were dirty pinkos too and if it weren't for conservatives saving civilization from them you'd all be speaking Commie.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:31 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:I don't know how my parents would react as during their youth teenagers and college students had a deep respect for the government and conservative society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Vietnam_War_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-wave_feminism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_movement

Yep, just a deep respect for authority and no protesting for them.


But those were dirty pinkos too and if it weren't for conservatives saving civilization from them you'd all be speaking Commie.


Don't forget we'd all be wearing thick furry crap and lining up for miles just to get a single roll of toilet paper.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:33 pm

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Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
But those were dirty pinkos too and if it weren't for conservatives saving civilization from them you'd all be speaking Commie.


Don't forget we'd all be wearing thick furry crap and lining up for miles just to get a single roll of toilet paper.

That would stink. [Pun intended]

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Postby Revolutopia » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:34 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:I don't know how my parents would react as during their youth teenagers and college students had a deep respect for the government and conservative society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Vietnam_War_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-wave_feminism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_movement

Yep, just a deep respect for authority and no protesting for them.


But those were dirty pinkos too and if it weren't for conservatives saving civilization from them you'd all be speaking Commie.


Yeah, but he is asking about people's parents and we all know liberals are to lazy to have children and instead only have the abortions.

But seriously, my father skipped out on meeting President Nixon to join a protest against the bombing of Cambodia, that ended with him running from the D.C police I don't think he would be disappointed at all.
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Postby Romatticus » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:37 pm

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Because releasing classified military information and informants doesn't deny others the use of their own lives.

It may not be Wikileaks' stated aim, but it is their de facto aim.


It's ridiculous that you try to make me defend Wikileaks. Anonymous isn't Wikileaks, they differ in significant ways, and I'm done explaining it to you.

If you want to argue about the rights and wrongs of Wikileaks, go make a thread about it.

Indeed. Wikileaks' wrongs are more moral then political. Practicing your free speech just to prove that you can, is just foolish and detrimental to innocent people. That being said, at least they have a sense of conviction and pride in what they do, they don't hide who they are when they do what they believe.
Anon, not so much. :eyebrow:
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Postby Samdruptse » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:40 pm

My parents are not paying my way through college (my family is not rich enough), nor would they approve or disapprove my activism. They'd simply say "it's your choice" as is their attitude towards many things I do.
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They should it on the 28th, one of the days of the real 1929 Crash (the 29th is a Saturday this year).
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