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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:18 pm

Gauthier wrote:And Citizens United allows for unlimited anonymous donations so it's not like any corporation or billionaire wants everyone to know who they bought.



Is there anything wrong with not announcing your public opinions or who you chose to give your money to?
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:18 pm

Yes, because "revolution" strictly means a bloody overthrow of government.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:21 pm

Gauthier wrote:Yes, because "revolution" strictly means a bloody overthrow of government.

It does if its damn, dirty socialists talking about it.
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Postby Greater Cabinda » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:22 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Yes, because "revolution" strictly means a bloody overthrow of government.

It does if its damn, dirty socialists talking about it.
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But "second amendment solutions" is just a metaphor for peaceful activism.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:23 pm

Greater Cabinda wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:It does if its damn, dirty socialists talking about it.
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But "second amendment solutions" is just a metaphor for peaceful activism.

Exactly!
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:36 pm

Sambianza wrote:Kid: MOMMY MOMMY! Im going to wall street to shut it down and stop capitalism and put the economy into a bigger standstill and make traders for scared about the instability...]

Mom: :palm:

:lol: Wonderful. :lol:
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Postby Revolutopia » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:41 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Sambianza wrote:Kid: MOMMY MOMMY! Im going to wall street to shut it down and stop capitalism and put the economy into a bigger standstill and make traders for scared about the instability...]

Mom: :palm:

:lol: Wonderful. :lol:


Similar to putting on a tricone hat with tea bags hanging down, and talking about how you want to keep government out of your Medicare that the parents thought would be hip.
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Postby Hittanryan » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:52 pm

What the parents thought would depend on their political bent. It's a peaceful protest, not a riot.

That said, You-Gi-Owe wouldn't be making a stink about this if it was a teabagger protest blocking traffic somewhere. An openly conservative news outlet from the other side of the country probably isn't the most reliable source for an anti-corporate protest in New York, either.
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Postby Megapolitania » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:54 pm

Yeah, god forbid kids facing the prospect of being the first generation in American history to wind up poorer than their parents, mounting student debt for what turned out to be no payoff later and 35% real unemployment go off to protest. They instead should be obedient and quiet and work/study, the only noble things people can do.
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Postby Serrland » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:55 pm

Gauthier wrote:Yes, because "revolution" strictly means a bloody overthrow of government.


What's that? The Ron Paul Revolution?

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Postby Megapolitania » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:56 pm

My parents, by the way, are disabled people who worked hard before cancer, epilepsy and brain damage sent them into $450,000 in debt and bankruptcy thanks to our wonderful health care system. To be fair, they're still alive because of the system, they just had to go bankrupt and raise me in dangerous neighborhoods to just scrape through. It may not surprise you that they swing a little left because of this.
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Postby SaintB » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:00 pm

I'd be proud that my child was passionate enough about their beliefs to defend them like I do; even if they were contrary to mine.
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You-Gi-Owe
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:33 pm

Megapolitania wrote:Yeah, god forbid kids facing the prospect of being the first generation in American history to wind up poorer than their parents, mounting student debt for what turned out to be no payoff later and 35% real unemployment go off to protest. They instead should be obedient and quiet and work/study, the only noble things people can do.

Note: Saw your post after this, too. Good Going.

The topic isn't about the rightness or wrongness of the cause.

Why don't you start a topic of why colleges and universities charge such a high amount?
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:34 pm

It seems to me that You-Gi-Owe doesn't support these people's right to protest.
You can tell how authoritarian someone is by how quick/how often they are to condemn people who are anti-establishment.
What is going to be the majority reaction of parents seeing their kid on television, marching and not studying?

I would feel proud, dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
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Iron Chariots
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Postby Iron Chariots » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:34 pm

SaintB wrote:I'd be proud that my child was passionate enough about their beliefs to defend them like I do; even if they were contrary to mine.

Very much this. If I ever have kids one of my big worries is not that they'll disagree with me but that they won't care!
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:36 pm

Hittanryan wrote:What the parents thought would depend on their political bent. It's a peaceful protest, not a riot.

That said, You-Gi-Owe wouldn't be making a stink about this if it was a teabagger protest blocking traffic somewhere. An openly conservative news outlet from the other side of the country probably isn't the most reliable source for an anti-corporate protest in New York, either.

Any arrests at Tea Party events?
Any Tea Party types cited for blocking traffic?
Any Tea Party type even leaving litter after one of their events?
I think the answer to those three questions is, "no".
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Postby Sremski okrug » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:37 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:What the parents thought would depend on their political bent. It's a peaceful protest, not a riot.

That said, You-Gi-Owe wouldn't be making a stink about this if it was a teabagger protest blocking traffic somewhere. An openly conservative news outlet from the other side of the country probably isn't the most reliable source for an anti-corporate protest in New York, either.

Any arrests at Tea Party events?
Any Tea Party types cited for blocking traffic?
Any Tea Party type even leaving litter after one of their events?
I think the answer to those three questions is, "no".


Any source for these claims? Also everyone leaves litter at an event even.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:37 pm

Iron Chariots wrote:
SaintB wrote:I'd be proud that my child was passionate enough about their beliefs to defend them like I do; even if they were contrary to mine.

Very much this. If I ever have kids one of my big worries is not that they'll disagree with me but that they won't care!

As much as I hate the idea of wasting cash, I can get behind your passion in the face of apathy. I hope the efforts are constructive.
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Postby ZombieRothbard » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:38 pm

I would be disapointed that my kid turned out to be a lefty, but I really wouldn't care all that much. My kids will find their own way in life.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:41 pm

Sremski okrug wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Any arrests at Tea Party events?
Any Tea Party types cited for blocking traffic?
Any Tea Party type even leaving litter after one of their events?
I think the answer to those three questions is, "no".


Any source for these claims? Also everyone leaves litter at an event even.
You score a massive. :palm:

Go ahead and find those arrests and complaints. They must be in the news somewhere, you think?
Edit. Only arrest I could find was in AZ where a heckler wouldn't leave the rally in peace.
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"We've always been at war with Eastasia." 1984, George Orwell
Tyrion: "Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!"
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” ~ James Madison quotes
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:42 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:What the parents thought would depend on their political bent. It's a peaceful protest, not a riot.

That said, You-Gi-Owe wouldn't be making a stink about this if it was a teabagger protest blocking traffic somewhere. An openly conservative news outlet from the other side of the country probably isn't the most reliable source for an anti-corporate protest in New York, either.

Any arrests at Tea Party events?
Any Tea Party types cited for blocking traffic?
Any Tea Party type even leaving litter after one of their events?
I think the answer to those three questions is, "no".


Strange Scene: 10 Arrested As Tea Partiers Heckle Police
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:43 pm

Look at that evil dirty communist. :p
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:50 pm

Genivaria wrote:Look at that evil dirty communist. :p
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 7433_n.jpg

You mean the cop?!?!?!?
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:51 pm

Gauthier wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Any arrests at Tea Party events?
Any Tea Party types cited for blocking traffic?
Any Tea Party type even leaving litter after one of their events?
I think the answer to those three questions is, "no".


Strange Scene: 10 Arrested As Tea Partiers Heckle Police

Ya got me. I forgot about that particular incident and fringe group of the tea party.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:51 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Look at that evil dirty communist. :p
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 7433_n.jpg

You mean the cop?!?!?!?

Either or.
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