Anonymous to Occupy Wall Street and Create Megathread

[The Warrior Hearted]

i leave for one day and opinion on anon turns around

*claps hands together*

Which anon butt buddy wants there beliefs ripped apart first?

Of course wishing for politicians not to be bought out by corporations must mean I take it up the chutney.

never said it was you, i despise bought out politicians as well.

But i have seen several people, mostly newbies to this forum, who think anon is "great" and "strong" and "peacefully protesting (ya rght)"

[Jinos]

Sure is a lot of neigh saying in this thread.

I remember listening to the same sort of stuff about how Occupy Wall Street wasn't going to amount to much either. Look how that turned out...

[Conserative Morality]

"College students? Participating in political activism? What the fuck do they think this is, a free country?"

[Kemal Ataturks left sock]

Look how that turned out...

Yes, because the capitalist system has been overthrown, and we are now living in a socialist utopia world. Oh wait...

[Conserative Morality]

More like corrupting the youth and applying brute-force/political-pressure rather than make a reasoned argument and providing alternatives.

The irony here is painful.

[The Warrior Hearted]

Look how that turned out...

Yes, because the capitalist system has been overthrown, and we are now living in a socialist utopia world. Oh wait...

curses, i hate when i get ninja'd

[Sremski okrug]

Look how that turned out...

Yes, because the capitalist system has been overthrown, and we are now living in a socialist utopia world. Oh wait...

Of course because thats what the protesters want...oh wait they don't

Unless you consider no longer allowing corporations to buy out politicians and wanting decent taxation to be socialism. People in these protests are just pissed off that after so many tax cuts on the so called job creators have no created any jobs.

[Kemal Ataturks left sock]

Of course because thats what the protesters want...oh wait they don't

Unless you consider no longer allowing corporations to buy out politicians and wanting decent taxation to be socialism. People in these protests are just pissed off that after so many tax cuts on the so called job creators have no created any jobs.

Hyperbole mate.

[The Warrior Hearted]

Yes, because the capitalist system has been overthrown, and we are now living in a socialist utopia world. Oh wait...

Of course because thats what the protesters want...oh wait they don't

Unless you consider no longer allowing corporations to buy out politicians and wanting decent taxation to be socialism. People in these protests are just pissed off that after so many tax cuts on the so called job creators have no created any jobs.

Anon hates alot more then just bought out politicians. That is one of the few things they hate that i agree with.

[Veblenia]

Speaking as a parent who has brought his child to peaceful protests, I'd be pleased something stuck.

[Ermarian]

i highly doubt anonymous will be able to pull this off.

When they inevitably try, though, they will nonetheless be put on the US's shit list.

Unlike everything else they've done in the past year or two, which made them the US's best friend ever...

[Des-Bal]

Corporations are taxed, sure, but they are enjoying unfairly low rates thanks to all kinds of fun loopholes that they exploit in addition to the Bush-era tax cuts, meanwhile posting record profits and hoarding the money, rather than being the "job creators" conservatives love to tout them to be.

The argument isn't that you some shouldn't be able to do something because others can't afford it -- the argument is that, in a representative democracy, disproportionate funds creates disproportionate representation. It creates a corporate-controlled plutocracy, not a democracy.

A corporation is not inherently evil, as a lot of people imply, but a corporation does have an obligation to its shareholders to turn a profit, regardless of how many people it has to exploit or lay off. Corporations are by nature inhuman -- why should they have the same rights as a human?

Are you upset that they aren't being forced to give you their money or upset that they aren't employing people they don't need to?

Then the only possible solution is to abolish money they aren't buying votes their supporting candidates and legislation. They just happen to have more money and more vested interest than most people.

The only thing your doing is setting a precedent that being part of a group should strip you of your individual rights.

[Wiztopia]

Corporations are taxed, sure, but they are enjoying unfairly low rates thanks to all kinds of fun loopholes that they exploit in addition to the Bush-era tax cuts, meanwhile posting record profits and hoarding the money, rather than being the "job creators" conservatives love to tout them to be.

The argument isn't that you some shouldn't be able to do something because others can't afford it -- the argument is that, in a representative democracy, disproportionate funds creates disproportionate representation. It creates a corporate-controlled plutocracy, not a democracy.

A corporation is not inherently evil, as a lot of people imply, but a corporation does have an obligation to its shareholders to turn a profit, regardless of how many people it has to exploit or lay off. Corporations are by nature inhuman -- why should they have the same rights as a human?

Are you upset that they aren't being forced to give you their money or upset that they aren't employing people they don't need to?

Then the only possible solution is to abolish money they aren't buying votes their supporting candidates and legislation. They just happen to have more money and more vested interest than most people.

The only thing your doing is setting a precedent that being part of a group should strip you of your individual rights.

So the corporations who want the new bullshit copyright laws are not buying politicians?

[Des-Bal]

Are you upset that they aren't being forced to give you their money or upset that they aren't employing people they don't need to?

Then the only possible solution is to abolish money they aren't buying votes their supporting candidates and legislation. They just happen to have more money and more vested interest than most people.

The only thing your doing is setting a precedent that being part of a group should strip you of your individual rights.

So the corporations who want the new bullshit copyright laws are not buying politicians? [/quote]

Influencing politicians is and always has been part of the democratic process it's exactly what civil rights groups do. The difference here is that you don't agree with them, you cannot alter the law so it only applies to unpopular positions.

[Greater Cabinda]

Influencing politicians is and always has been part of the democratic process it's exactly what civil rights groups do. The difference here is that you don't agree with them, you cannot alter the law so it only applies to unpopular positions.

There's a difference between lobbying and buying politicians. Since Citizens United, it has been the latter.

[The Warrior Hearted]

i highly doubt anonymous will be able to pull this off.

When they inevitably try, though, they will nonetheless be put on the US's shit list.

Unlike everything else they've done in the past year or two, which made them the US's best friend ever...

the government hates there guts

This will get the peoples opinion of them to also take a nosedive

[Des-Bal]

There's a difference between lobbying and buying politicians. Since Citizens United, it has been the latter.

And the difference is nobody actually does the second one.

[Wiztopia]

Are you upset that they aren't being forced to give you their money or upset that they aren't employing people they don't need to?

Then the only possible solution is to abolish money they aren't buying votes their supporting candidates and legislation. They just happen to have more money and more vested interest than most people.

The only thing your doing is setting a precedent that being part of a group should strip you of your individual rights.

So the corporations who want the new bullshit copyright laws are not buying politicians?

Influencing politicians is and always has been part of the democratic process it's exactly what civil rights groups do. The difference here is that you don't agree with them, you cannot alter the law so it only applies to unpopular positions.[/quote]

By influence you mean buy.

[Greater Cabinda]

There's a difference between lobbying and buying politicians. Since Citizens United, it has been the latter.

And the difference is nobody actually does the second one.

When you donate >5 million to a SuperPac with the "request" that they pass legislation favoring your positions, I'd call that buying a politician.

[Greater Cabinda]

Lol @ liberal professors.

Ron Paul supporters are in the crowds too, YGO.

[Greater Cabinda]

More like corrupting the youth and applying brute-force/political-pressure rather than make a reasoned argument and providing alternatives.

The irony here is painful.

Tea Party didn't do anything of the sort, apparently.

[Gauthier]

And the difference is nobody actually does the second one.

When you donate >5 million to a SuperPac with the "request" that they pass legislation favoring your positions, I'd call that buying a politician.

And Citizens United allows for unlimited anonymous donations so it's not like any corporation or billionaire wants everyone to know who they bought.

[Greater Cabinda]

When you donate >5 million to a SuperPac with the "request" that they pass legislation favoring your positions, I'd call that buying a politician.

And Citizens United allows for unlimited anonymous donations so it's not like any corporation or billionaire wants everyone to know who they bought.

Anonymous to the public maybe.

[Des-Bal]

When you donate >5 million to a SuperPac with the "request" that they pass legislation favoring your positions, I'd call that buying a politician.

The presumption that a group will stop supporting you if you piss them off is nothing new and there's nothing unfair about it.

[Gauthier]

And Citizens United allows for unlimited anonymous donations so it's not like any corporation or billionaire wants everyone to know who they bought.

Anonymous to the public maybe.

And as long as the public is in the dark it's all that matters.