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Postby Belvadaire » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:57 pm

Good, change needs to take place in the USA, to bad they voted in a change that really screwed up everything, Odrama, he really do know how to humbly stare up discrimination problems, a few words, people start to get angry, it's only the Devil hiding behind a dark skin, just milking the dicrimination groups, and civil right activist, that thing don't have a skin color, that's right I said thing. Just him being in office has a lot of people scrammbling around on how to come at with challenging question and statements without looking racist, that's why those freemason evil scumbags put him in their, so people can feel sorry for challenging real power. he can go back to hell where he came from. :mad:

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Postby Terra Agora » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:00 pm

Dick wrote:Occupy Wall Street are completely ignorant on economics. It's embarassing really

http://youtu.be/qT8YW3cIAKg

On everyone part of Occupy Wall Street is asking for $50 minimum wages, etc.
Not to mention Stefan Molyneux is a terrible philosopher.
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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:01 pm

Cameroi wrote:i just found out about a website called firedoglake.com
i don't know if its been mentioned in this thread yet. but it might be of some interest to it. in case anyone else hasn't yet.


First story I saw is "Police Threaten Mass Arrest of Occupy Boston."

Then, when looking at the story, I realize that the protesters had tried to take over a bridge. A fully functional traffic bridge.

If the only way you can get yourself arrested is for serially violating traffic regulations, you don't live in an authoritarian state.
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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:02 pm

Belvadaire wrote:Good, change needs to take place in the USA, to bad they voted in a change that really screwed up everything, Odrama, he really do know how to humbly stare up discrimination problems, a few words, people start to get angry, it's only the Devil hiding behind a dark skin, just milking the dicrimination groups, and civil right activist, that thing don't have a skin color, that's right I said thing. Just him being in office has a lot of people scrammbling around on how to come at with challenging question and statements without looking racist, that's why those freemason evil scumbags put him in their, so people can feel sorry for challenging real power. he can go back to hell where he came from. :mad:


Wait...what? Are you on thorazine? What the hell.
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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:03 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Dick wrote:Occupy Wall Street are completely ignorant on economics. It's embarassing really

http://youtu.be/qT8YW3cIAKg

On everyone part of Occupy Wall Street is asking for $50 minimum wages, etc.
Not to mention Stefan Molyneux is a terrible philosopher.



Meh. The protests are just a bunch of grouchy young white people. Perfect counterpart to the tea party really, which is almost exclusively comprised of grouchy old white people.
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Postby Kandorith » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:04 pm

Belvadaire wrote:Good, change needs to take place in the USA, to bad they voted in a change that really screwed up everything, Odrama, he really do know how to humbly stare up discrimination problems, a few words, people start to get angry, it's only the Devil hiding behind a dark skin, just milking the dicrimination groups, and civil right activist, that thing don't have a skin color, that's right I said thing. Just him being in office has a lot of people scrammbling around on how to come at with challenging question and statements without looking racist, that's why those freemason evil scumbags put him in their, so people can feel sorry for challenging real power. he can go back to hell where he came from. :mad:


Some Freemason "scum" would like some words with you no doubt......

The only thing I can say on this.. is.. "WHAT?"
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:13 pm

Genivaria wrote:(Image)

I will admit sympathy for that man; but that does not change what I've stated previously. And regarding the so-called 99%, I have these words by a comrade that I would like to share.
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Postby F1-Insanity » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:16 pm

Saiwania wrote:These Wall Street protestors seem to be far less organized or coherent than the TEA party. It's a joke. I'm unsure of what their agenda is asides from maybe socialism. From my local newspaper: "Nearby a speaker in lower Manhattan's Foley Square yelled into a microphone, "I'm tired of sticking my hand in my pocket, and only getting my leg!"

So basically, some if not all of the protestors expect a government handout and don't want to work for a living, while railing against the rich
(who've earned their money). I notice how class warfare is a crucial element within Marxism and am wary that there may be communist involvement in these protests.


The funny thing is, the banksters and corpo-rat crooks have been taking the biggest government handouts in history of late, and expect more and more, and yet you seem not to complain about that at all... in fact, the corpo-rats all 'earned' it, right? Yeah this is class warfare alright, its the corpo-rats against the rest. I am not a corpo-rat. Are you? Maybe you think that corpo-rat bailouts are 'capitalism' at its finest?
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Think about the numbers in terms that we can relate to. Remove eight zeros from the numbers and pretend it is the household budget for the fictitious Jones family:
-Total annual income for the Jones family: $21,700
-Amount of money the Jones family spent: $38,200
-Amount of new debt added to the credit card: $16,500
-Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710

-Amount cut from the budget: $385
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Postby North Calaveras » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:17 pm

Wait, someone tell me, are they mad about the government bailouts?
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Postby Malgrave » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:19 pm

Greater Tezdrian wrote:
Genivaria wrote:(Image)

I will admit sympathy for that man; but that does not change what I've stated previously. And regarding the so-called 99%, I have these words by a comrade that I would like to share.


seems to me another asshole making assumptions on people based on a few sentences.

- He assumes people that are unemployed and have college debt obviously picked the wrong degree, even if they did not state what degree they actually have and ignoring the massive unemployment in America

- He also assumes that a guy that passed out due to heat stroke was "partying" what an idiotic assumption. People get effected by heatstroke all the time while living their daily lives. At this point I was too pissed off to continue reading the idiots whiny blog :palm:
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Postby Terra Agora » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:22 pm

Malgrave wrote:He assumes people that are unemployed and have college debt obviously picked the wrong degree, even if they did not state what degree they actually have and ignoring the massive unemployment in America

College is a scam!
There's a college bubble and it's going to bust.
Say "Thank you Ben Bernanke."
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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:23 pm

Greater Tezdrian wrote:
Genivaria wrote:(Image)

I will admit sympathy for that man; but that does not change what I've stated previously. And regarding the so-called 99%, I have these words by a comrade that I would like to share.


Did that seriously just do a "I am the 99%" for Hitler?
FreeAgency wrote:Shellfish eating used to be restricted to dens of sin such as Red Lobster and Long John Silvers, but now days I cannot even take my children to a public restaurant anymore (even the supposedly "family friendly ones") without risking their having to watch some deranged individual flaunting his sin...

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Postby F1-Insanity » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:25 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Malgrave wrote:He assumes people that are unemployed and have college debt obviously picked the wrong degree, even if they did not state what degree they actually have and ignoring the massive unemployment in America

College is a scam!
There's a college bubble and it's going to bust.
Say "Thank you Ben Bernanke."


I think the thing (idiocy) of getting $60k degrees just because the College/Uni has a fancy name is total BS anyhow.

And why is chief thief Bernanke not in jail?
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Think about the numbers in terms that we can relate to. Remove eight zeros from the numbers and pretend it is the household budget for the fictitious Jones family:
-Total annual income for the Jones family: $21,700
-Amount of money the Jones family spent: $38,200
-Amount of new debt added to the credit card: $16,500
-Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710

-Amount cut from the budget: $385
Help us Obi Ben Bernanki, printing more money is our only hope... for a big bonus! - Wall Street
Bush's 'faith' was the same political tool as Obama's 'hope'.

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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:26 pm

Malgrave wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote:I will admit sympathy for that man; but that does not change what I've stated previously. And regarding the so-called 99%, I have these words by a comrade that I would like to share.


seems to me another asshole making assumptions on people based on a few sentences.

- He assumes people that are unemployed and have college debt obviously picked the wrong degree, even if they did not state what degree they actually have and ignoring the massive unemployment in America

- He also assumes that a guy that passed out due to heat stroke was "partying" what an idiotic assumption. People get effected by heatstroke all the time while living their daily lives. At this point I was too pissed off to continue reading the idiots whiny blog :palm:


I don't know why on Earth you'd get hospitalized for heat stroke...

I had a short bout of heat stroke while backpacking. My buddy and I realized it. I filled up my water containers, set up my tent, and laid in the shade drinking water until I feel asleep. When I woke up, I felt completely well. No 10,000 dollar hospital bill, or anything.
FreeAgency wrote:Shellfish eating used to be restricted to dens of sin such as Red Lobster and Long John Silvers, but now days I cannot even take my children to a public restaurant anymore (even the supposedly "family friendly ones") without risking their having to watch some deranged individual flaunting his sin...

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Postby Malgrave » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:27 pm

Andaluciae wrote:
Malgrave wrote:
seems to me another asshole making assumptions on people based on a few sentences.

- He assumes people that are unemployed and have college debt obviously picked the wrong degree, even if they did not state what degree they actually have and ignoring the massive unemployment in America

- He also assumes that a guy that passed out due to heat stroke was "partying" what an idiotic assumption. People get effected by heatstroke all the time while living their daily lives. At this point I was too pissed off to continue reading the idiots whiny blog :palm:


I don't know why on Earth you'd get hospitalized for heat stroke...

I had a short bout of heat stroke while backpacking. My buddy and I realized it. I filled up my water containers, set up my tent, and laid in the shade drinking water until I feel asleep. When I woke up, I felt completely well. No 10,000 dollar hospital bill, or anything.


No idea. He could of collapsed and then people freaked out and called 911.
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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:27 pm

F1-Insanity wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:College is a scam!
There's a college bubble and it's going to bust.
Say "Thank you Ben Bernanke."


I think the thing (idiocy) of getting $60k degrees just because the College/Uni has a fancy name is total BS anyhow.


I was shouted down over on reddit for suggesting that you can get a great education from a state school...it was surreal. They only viewed private schools as being worthy of attending.

And why is chief thief Bernanke not in jail?


He hasn't broken any laws...
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Postby Terra Agora » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:28 pm

F1-Insanity wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:College is a scam!
There's a college bubble and it's going to bust.
Say "Thank you Ben Bernanke."


I think the thing (idiocy) of getting $60k degrees just because the College/Uni has a fancy name is total BS anyhow.

And why is chief thief Bernanke not in jail?

It is BS.
The thing is it wasn't until recently were people would actually have to save money for college (you can blame inflation on that one).
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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:29 pm

Malgrave wrote:
Andaluciae wrote:
I don't know why on Earth you'd get hospitalized for heat stroke...

I had a short bout of heat stroke while backpacking. My buddy and I realized it. I filled up my water containers, set up my tent, and laid in the shade drinking water until I feel asleep. When I woke up, I felt completely well. No 10,000 dollar hospital bill, or anything.


No idea. He could of collapsed and then people freaked out and called 911.


Yeah, we don't have the full story. It was the only interesting one on that site, merely because, as someone who is often active outdoors, I have had a couple of encounters with heat stroke and dehydration, and tens of thousands of dollars worth of medical bills don't seem worth something so...simple.
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Postby Malgrave » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:31 pm

Andaluciae wrote:
Malgrave wrote:
No idea. He could of collapsed and then people freaked out and called 911.


Yeah, we don't have the full story. It was the only interesting one on that site, merely because, as someone who is often active outdoors, I have had a couple of encounters with heat stroke and dehydration, and tens of thousands of dollars worth of medical bills don't seem worth something so...simple.


I agree, although people to tend to over-react especially on matters of health. They probably put him on observation and IV for no apparent reason other to run up costs.
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Postby North Calaveras » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:32 pm

Andaluciae wrote:
Malgrave wrote:
No idea. He could of collapsed and then people freaked out and called 911.


Yeah, we don't have the full story. It was the only interesting one on that site, merely because, as someone who is often active outdoors, I have had a couple of encounters with heat stroke and dehydration, and tens of thousands of dollars worth of medical bills don't seem worth something so...simple.


It's cause lots of city-folk exaggerate and over panic about things, seriously I believe this to be the case. I go to a concert in Sacramento and all these people are like " Someone call an ambulance shes overheating!!!"
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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:33 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:
I think the thing (idiocy) of getting $60k degrees just because the College/Uni has a fancy name is total BS anyhow.

And why is chief thief Bernanke not in jail?

It is BS.
The thing is it wasn't until recently were people would actually have to save money for college (you can blame inflation on that one).


Meh...my grandpa went on the GI Bill, and worked shoveling coal and snow for the local railroads to pay for Ohio State.

My other grandpa worked as a dishwasher for a fraternity, and used savings from his uncle who owned a little drug store in a company town to pay for Penn State.

My mom went to Ohio State with money her parents saved for her.

My dad went to the University of Kentucky with money he earned working at the library, and at a liquor store, and later with funding from a scholarship for work he was doing with astronomical modeling on computers.

I went to Ohio State on a series of scholarships, and a job I worked twenty hours a week. I then went to grad school on a fellowship, and a job I worked full time.
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Postby F1-Insanity » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:34 pm

Terra Agora wrote:The thing is it wasn't until recently were people would actually have to save money for college (you can blame inflation on that one).


I never did. But then again, i didn't go to no fancy college, not necessary. Come to think of it, some of the people you encounter with such degrees, well lets say they may have the piece of paper with the fancy name on it, but did they actually acquire any real useable skills?

And I am debt free too. OK I have a credit card, I admit, but its currently under four digits. Tired of paying craploads of interest to some corporate JO who'll just ask for a bailout if his business starts going under.
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Think about the numbers in terms that we can relate to. Remove eight zeros from the numbers and pretend it is the household budget for the fictitious Jones family:
-Total annual income for the Jones family: $21,700
-Amount of money the Jones family spent: $38,200
-Amount of new debt added to the credit card: $16,500
-Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710

-Amount cut from the budget: $385
Help us Obi Ben Bernanki, printing more money is our only hope... for a big bonus! - Wall Street
Bush's 'faith' was the same political tool as Obama's 'hope'.

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Postby The Islands of United Caribbean Colonies » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:35 pm

Andaluciae wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote:I will admit sympathy for that man; but that does not change what I've stated previously. And regarding the so-called 99%, I have these words by a comrade that I would like to share.


Did that seriously just do a "I am the 99%" for Hitler?

He is so ridiculous I stopped reading his posts a while ago, get used to just having to skim over them. I have never met someone so inflammatory with their ACTUAL beliefs. :o

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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:38 pm

Malgrave wrote:
Andaluciae wrote:
Yeah, we don't have the full story. It was the only interesting one on that site, merely because, as someone who is often active outdoors, I have had a couple of encounters with heat stroke and dehydration, and tens of thousands of dollars worth of medical bills don't seem worth something so...simple.


I agree, although people to tend to over-react especially on matters of health. They probably put him on observation and IV for no apparent reason other to run up costs.


I agree. I've never, ever been to the emergency, despite having had great insurance and a couple of potential health misadventures.
FreeAgency wrote:Shellfish eating used to be restricted to dens of sin such as Red Lobster and Long John Silvers, but now days I cannot even take my children to a public restaurant anymore (even the supposedly "family friendly ones") without risking their having to watch some deranged individual flaunting his sin...

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Postby Terra Agora » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:39 pm

Andaluciae wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:It is BS.
The thing is it wasn't until recently were people would actually have to save money for college (you can blame inflation on that one).


Meh...my grandpa went on the GI Bill, and worked shoveling coal and snow for the local railroads to pay for Ohio State.

My other grandpa worked as a dishwasher for a fraternity, and used savings from his uncle who owned a little drug store in a company town to pay for Penn State.

My mom went to Ohio State with money her parents saved for her.

My dad went to the University of Kentucky with money he earned working at the library, and at a liquor store, and later with funding from a scholarship for work he was doing with astronomical modeling on computers.

I went to Ohio State on a series of scholarships, and a job I worked twenty hours a week. I then went to grad school on a fellowship, and a job I worked full time.

Working for awhile is different then job + loans + aid.

You obviously paid much more then your grandparents.
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"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
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