Turkey Preparing for War with Israel

[Farnhamia]

Turkey attacks Isreal? Oh god, let's start preparing for World War Three!

Your obsession with WW3 is a bit overdone, you know.

[-The West Coast-]

Haha, another victory goes to Israel.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Turkey attacks Isreal? Oh god, let's start preparing for World War Three!

Your obsession with WW3 is a bit overdone, you know.

That and the lack of city buses that come directly to your doorstep to pick you up every 10 minutes.

[Alyakia]

It's Hollywood. Gotta be Hollywood.

I post a link and no one bothers taking a peek. Fantastic.

I looked at it. That anyone claims Israel was in the right is disgusting. Some passengers on a Turkish vessel defend themselves after being boarded on international waters without a formal warning, and 9 of them are shot multiple times in the back or at close range, while the rest are robbed or beaten or both. This time it wasn't just Palestinians who were murdered, so they can't just be swept under the rug.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ARMED AND ARMOURED SOLDIERS DROPPING IN FROM A HELICOPTER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WITHOUT WARNING WHO LATER ABUSED THE PASSENGERS AFTER THEY WERE IN CONTROL OF THE SITUATION? THEY ARE THE REAL VICTIMS HERE.

goddamn jihad aplogists

[Kalaspia-Shimarata]

Turkey attacks Isreal? Oh god, let's start preparing for World War Three!

Your obsession with WW3 is a bit overdone, you know.

How is it overdone? My belife is that WWIII will happen this decade. I don't want it to, but it will

[-The West Coast-]

Your obsession with WW3 is a bit overdone, you know.

How is it overdone? My belife is that WWIII will happen this decade. I don't want it to, but it will

It won't. You should stop digging that bomb shelter and come back to reality.

[Farnhamia]

Your obsession with WW3 is a bit overdone, you know.

How is it overdone? My belife is that WWIII will happen this decade. I don't want it to, but it will

I've seen your ideas on how, too. Even if, somehow, a global war broke out, Greece is not getting back Western Anatolia. Sorry.

[Kalaspia-Shimarata]

How is it overdone? My belife is that WWIII will happen this decade. I don't want it to, but it will

It won't. You should stop digging that bomb shelter and come back to reality.

How do you know it won't

[New England and The Maritimes]

Haha, another victory goes to Israel.

First off, the title is trollish. Second, Israel has nothing. 3 Frigates to Turkey's 19, 0 mining vessels to Turkey's 20, etc. etc. Turkey also has 1.2 million active troops to Israel's 700,000 and millions more in reserves, as well as 32 million more people fit for service. In a conventional war, Turkey would crush Israel.

What's actually happening, of course, is Turkey demonstrating they won't let Israel murder their citizens at will the way America, France and the UK have.

[Lessnt]

How is it overdone? My belife is that WWIII will happen this decade. I don't want it to, but it will

It won't. You should stop digging that bomb shelter and come back to reality.

but.....bomb shelters are so cool....everyone needs a panic room.

[-The West Coast-]

Haha, another victory goes to Israel.

First off, the title is trollish. Second, Israel has nothing. 3 Frigates to Turkey's 19, 0 mining vessels to Turkey's 20, etc. etc. Turkey also has 1.2 million active troops to Israel's 700,000 and millions more in reserves, as well as 32 million more people fit for service. In a conventional war, Turkey would crush Israel.

What's actually happening, of course, is Turkey demonstrating they won't let Israel murder their citizens at will the way America, France and the UK have.

and a combined population of 168 million arabs couldn't defeat an even smaller Israel in the 60's and 70's.

[New England and The Maritimes]

First off, the title is trollish. Second, Israel has nothing. 3 Frigates to Turkey's 19, 0 mining vessels to Turkey's 20, etc. etc. Turkey also has 1.2 million active troops to Israel's 700,000 and millions more in reserves, as well as 32 million more people fit for service. In a conventional war, Turkey would crush Israel.

What's actually happening, of course, is Turkey demonstrating they won't let Israel murder their citizens at will the way America, France and the UK have.

and a combined population of 168 million arabs couldn't defeat an even smaller Israel in the 60's and 70's.

And we're living in 1971... oh wait. Egypt could defeat Israel at the moment, and Israel knows it. Turkey is a few steps above that.

[Farnhamia]

First off, the title is trollish. Second, Israel has nothing. 3 Frigates to Turkey's 19, 0 mining vessels to Turkey's 20, etc. etc. Turkey also has 1.2 million active troops to Israel's 700,000 and millions more in reserves, as well as 32 million more people fit for service. In a conventional war, Turkey would crush Israel.

What's actually happening, of course, is Turkey demonstrating they won't let Israel murder their citizens at will the way America, France and the UK have.

and a combined population of 168 million arabs couldn't defeat an even smaller Israel in the 60's and 70's.

Would that be because real war is not like Risk? Because you don't line up all your guys against all the other guy's ... guys and roll dice.

[Dacius]

First off, the title is trollish. Second, Israel has nothing. 3 Frigates to Turkey's 19, 0 mining vessels to Turkey's 20, etc. etc. Turkey also has 1.2 million active troops to Israel's 700,000 and millions more in reserves, as well as 32 million more people fit for service. In a conventional war, Turkey would crush Israel.

What's actually happening, of course, is Turkey demonstrating they won't let Israel murder their citizens at will the way America, France and the UK have.

and a combined population of 168 million arabs couldn't defeat an even smaller Israel in the 60's and 70's.

If you read through the thread, I think it's been established that the Arab nations of the past =/= the Turkey of today.

[-The West Coast-]

and a combined population of 168 million arabs couldn't defeat an even smaller Israel in the 60's and 70's.

If you read through the thread, I think it's been established that the Arab nations of the past =/= the Turkey of today.

What i meant by what i said was, 'if they couldn't do it before, what makes you think they could do it now?'

[Dacius]

If you read through the thread, I think it's been established that the Arab nations of the past =/= the Turkey of today.

What i meant by what i said was, 'if they couldn't do it before, what makes you think they could do it now?'

Um... the fact that it's a totally different country in a totally different time?

[Costa Fiero]

I looked at it. That anyone claims Israel was in the right is disgusting. Some passengers on a Turkish vessel defend themselves after being boarded on international waters without a formal warning, and 9 of them are shot multiple times in the back or at close range, while the rest are robbed or beaten or both. This time it wasn't just Palestinians who were murdered, so they can't just be swept under the rug.

You're forgetting the fact that it says Israel was wrong to react the way they did. My point was, it justifies the blockade.

[Lessnt]

What i meant by what i said was, 'if they couldn't do it before, what makes you think they could do it now?'

Um... the fact that it's a totally different country in a totally different time?

Different does not mean they are any more capable...they could eb worse.
The point is to point out reasons as to why they would eb better.

[New England and The Maritimes]

I looked at it. That anyone claims Israel was in the right is disgusting. Some passengers on a Turkish vessel defend themselves after being boarded on international waters without a formal warning, and 9 of them are shot multiple times in the back or at close range, while the rest are robbed or beaten or both. This time it wasn't just Palestinians who were murdered, so they can't just be swept under the rug.

You're forgetting the fact that it says Israel was wrong to react the way they did. My point was, it justifies the blockade.

The blockade itself is fine. Israel's ideas about how to enforce a blockade are what should be, and what are being, condemned.

[Evigglaede]

This is noting but political play from the tyrkeese generals who have lost a lot of influense and want to take up a popular cource. There is no way turkey is going to atack Israel.

[Costa Fiero]

And we're living in 1971... oh wait. Egypt could defeat Israel at the moment, and Israel knows it. Turkey is a few steps above that.

With what? And don't point out the Abrams tanks because they don't even have the same weapons systems as the American ones do.

[Saint-Thor]

Russian army is in a state of decrepitude, Spetnaz included. Russian young men are doing everything they can to not go in the army. I've met several Russian in the Foreign legion (I've spent 1 month there, I'm not a Legionnaire) and horror stories are many. Things that you wouldn't believe. Anyway, I found this today. Very scary.

As for the current situation with Israel and Turkey, some people should stop analysing that crisis through a Civilization IV or V spectrum. The world is too much interdependent now and diplomacy, very complicated. More than ever.

[Fellrike]

I don't think Turkey is about to go to war with Israel. It seems very unlikely to me.

[Pridwen]

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=236578

"Israel will no longer be able to exercise its bullying practices freely,” a Turkish diplomatic source tells a local newspaper.

The Turkish Navy will bolster its presence in the eastern Mediterranean Sea to prevent Israeli operations, Turkish officials said over the weekend, as the crisis between Jerusalem and Ankara intensified following the publication of the Palmer Report on last year’s flotilla conflict.

“A more aggressive strategy will be pursued. Israel will no longer be able to exercise its bullying practices freely,” a Turkish diplomatic source was quoted as saying in the Hurriyet Daily News. The source said that the navy would accompany ships bringing aid to the Gaza Strip.
Turkey has threatened to deploy its navy to accompany aid ships to the Gaza Strip in the past.
Meanwhile, as ties with Turkey continue to deteriorate, Israel is bolstering its ties with Greece. Greece and Israel have strengthened defense ties in recent years and both air forces have held a number of joint drills in Greece over the past year.

This is not going to end well or peacefully.

It certainly sounds like Turkey is gearing up for a war against Israel and will start it by attacking Israeli ships enforcing a justified blockade of a region under the control of a known international terrorist organization whose only goal is the death of civilians for the crime of being Jewish.


all this because Turkey wants to defend violent criminals and terrorists.

Or maybe, just maybe, because the Israelis exacted their laws on Turkish citizens in international waters, and the Turks are pissed at that insult to their sovereignty.

Do you consider other possibilities?

[Galla-]

And we're living in 1971... oh wait. Egypt could defeat Israel at the moment, and Israel knows it. Turkey is a few steps above that.

With what? And don't point out the Abrams tanks because they don't even have the same weapons systems as the American ones do.

...yes they do