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Postby Holy Marsh » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:14 pm

Juristonia wrote:
Holy Marsh wrote:1.2 million versus 3/4 of a million is an advantage, but it isn't nearly as bad as you make it out to be.


Yeah, okay.


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Postby Hallistar » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:21 pm

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Yeah, okay.



You made my point? Thank you?


Juristonia, the active amount is different from the potential available, in order to harness the other 35 million who could fight as well (though which im guessing would damage the economy) would require conscripting and training and being able to get that to be as effective as those who are actively in the military.

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Postby Holy Marsh » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:24 pm

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Holy Marsh wrote:You made my point? Thank you?


Juristonia, the active amount is different from the potential available, in order to harness the other 35 million who could fight as well (though which im guessing would damage the economy) would require conscripting and training and being able to get that to be as effective as those who are actively in the military.

It would take a lot of time. A lot. And harm the economy terribly. And I don't think that either way we would be looking at an attempt from one side or the other to occupy land for any stretch of time.
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Postby Costa Fiero » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:00 pm

I take it no one's bothered to look at the latest UN report which came out this month.

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Postby Lessnt » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:02 pm

Costa Fiero wrote:I take it no one's bothered to look at the latest UN report which came out this month.

nope.

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Postby Katganistan » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:26 pm

Kemaliste wrote:
The Audi Group wrote:Israel will eat Turkey for chrismas dinner :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Postby Maurepas » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:31 pm

Eh, the only difference between Israel and the "criminals and terrorists" is that Israel has a US-Backed Modern Military. If Israel were as poor and under-supported as Palestine, their tactics would be the same. Neither side is right in that conflict, at least from that viewpoint.

Once again in such a hypothetical War, I think the US should sit back and watch, and sell arms to both sides, and claim to've supported the winner all along. It's a proven successful strategy.

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Postby Cameroi » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:32 pm

have a bowl of hyper bole today.

turkey is making a morally responsible, appropriate, and much needed statement, expelling the israeli ambassador.
for the real reasons it is doing so. i don't often side with turkey on many things, but in this they are doing the right thing.
and it is not unconditional. they are only requiring that israel accept moral responsibility for reckless and inappropriate actions it has taken.

there is nothing more nor else involved. and certainly nothing to indicate the hostile intent implied in the trololololo naming of this thread.
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:33 pm

Maurepas wrote:Once again in such a hypothetical War, I think the US should sit back and watch, and sell arms to both sides, and claim to've supported the winner all along. It's a proven successful strategy.

Gee wiz, I wonder why it is that the U.S. is unpopular!
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:36 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Once again in such a hypothetical War, I think the US should sit back and watch, and sell arms to both sides, and claim to've supported the winner all along. It's a proven successful strategy.

Gee wiz, I wonder why it is that the U.S. is unpopular!

I wonder it as well, afterall, that was a proven strategy for the two World Wars, not for our actions in the post-WWII world. Our actions since then with interventionist policies and the sticking of our nose where it doesn't belong have brought nothing but unpopularity and hate towards us.

You reach a point where someone's going to hate you regardless, and at that point your actions should be what benefits you the most. Ask Russia or China, they'll tell you.

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Postby Lessnt » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:38 pm

according to this site.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/

turkey has a stronger military.

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Postby Industrial Republics » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:38 pm

Was going to happen sooner or later, with the roulette wheel deciding who against Israel.

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Postby Alyakia » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:38 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Gee wiz, I wonder why it is that the U.S. is unpopular!

I wonder it as well, afterall, that was a proven strategy for the two World Wars, not for our actions in the post-WWII world. Our actions since then with interventionist policies and the sticking of our nose where it doesn't belong have brought nothing but unpopularity and hate towards us.

You reach a point where someone's going to hate you regardless, and at that point your actions should be what benefits you the most. Ask Russia or China, they'll tell you.

Wait... Your argument in the second paragraph is that everyone hates you because of dickish foreign policy, so the solution is to do more dickish foreign policy, because hey, they hate us anyway!

Seriously?
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:40 pm

Industrial Republics wrote:Was going to happen sooner or later, with the roulette wheel deciding Israel against who.


Fixed. There is such a... delicate art to word order~
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:41 pm

Parhe wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
How about you use a non-biased and non-Israeli source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain_Israel_Communications_and_Research_Centre

And you never answered why it's relevant that Israel isn't an Arab country either.


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Postby Industrial Republics » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:41 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Industrial Republics wrote:Was going to happen sooner or later, with the roulette wheel deciding Israel against who.


Fixed. There is such a... delicate art to word order~


If you want to get technical it'd actually be whom because we're not sure which country it'd be.

But it's past Midnight, and I could care less.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:42 pm

Lessnt wrote:according to this site.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/

turkey has a stronger military.

Based purely on numbers, yes. The key is being able to deliver force at the proper place. Anyway, there isn't going to be a Turkish-Israeli War. The US will let them rattle their sabers but if it looks as if actual fighting is about to break out, we'll smother them in diplomats.
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:42 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I wonder it as well, afterall, that was a proven strategy for the two World Wars, not for our actions in the post-WWII world. Our actions since then with interventionist policies and the sticking of our nose where it doesn't belong have brought nothing but unpopularity and hate towards us.

You reach a point where someone's going to hate you regardless, and at that point your actions should be what benefits you the most. Ask Russia or China, they'll tell you.

Wait... Your argument in the second paragraph is that everyone hates you because of dickish foreign policy, so the solution is to do more dickish foreign policy, because hey, they hate us anyway!

Seriously?

Ya?

If you treat someone like an animal long enough.
They will act like an animal.(more like an animal than you originally felt.)

So....were you expecting those actions to benefit them more?

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Postby Costa Fiero » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:43 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Once again in such a hypothetical War, I think the US should sit back and watch, and sell arms to both sides, and claim to've supported the winner all along. It's a proven successful strategy.

Gee wiz, I wonder why it is that the U.S. is unpopular!


It's Hollywood. Gotta be Hollywood.

I post a link and no one bothers taking a peek. Fantastic.

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Postby Alyakia » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:44 pm

Lessnt wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Wait... Your argument in the second paragraph is that everyone hates you because of dickish foreign policy, so the solution is to do more dickish foreign policy, because hey, they hate us anyway!

Seriously?

Ya?

If you treat someone like an animal long enough.
They will act like an animal.(more like an animal than you originally felt.)

So....were you expecting those actions to benefit them more?

If you treat someone like an animal, and they begin to act like an animal, the solution is to keep treating them like an animal.

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Postby Maurepas » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:46 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I wonder it as well, afterall, that was a proven strategy for the two World Wars, not for our actions in the post-WWII world. Our actions since then with interventionist policies and the sticking of our nose where it doesn't belong have brought nothing but unpopularity and hate towards us.

You reach a point where someone's going to hate you regardless, and at that point your actions should be what benefits you the most. Ask Russia or China, they'll tell you.

Wait... Your argument in the second paragraph is that everyone hates you because of dickish foreign policy, so the solution is to do more dickish foreign policy, because hey, they hate us anyway!

Seriously?

If that's the way you see it, I simply look at a world stage that has continually had but one real message: Stop being the World Police, and stop treating us like Children.

I simply say we should do as we're being asked and stop policing it. If you think of that as Dickish, fine, I also recognize that not policing will be thought of as just as dickish as the aforementioned policing, and that being the case, whether or not you're viewed as a dick shouldn't be the issue at all.

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Postby Kalaspia-Shimarata » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:46 pm

Turkey attacks Isreal? Oh god, let's start preparing for World War Three!
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:47 pm

Costa Fiero wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Gee wiz, I wonder why it is that the U.S. is unpopular!


It's Hollywood. Gotta be Hollywood.

I post a link and no one bothers taking a peek. Fantastic.


I looked at it. That anyone claims Israel was in the right is disgusting. Some passengers on a Turkish vessel defend themselves after being boarded on international waters without a formal warning, and 9 of them are shot multiple times in the back or at close range, while the rest are robbed or beaten or both. This time it wasn't just Palestinians who were murdered, so they can't just be swept under the rug.
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