Turkey Preparing for War with Israel

[Holy Marsh]

Israel will win and pull through as it always does. It's similar situation to when the Syrians, Egyptians, Lebanese (?), and Jordanians all tried to conquer Israel. The US will assist Israel with supplies, and they shall be victorious in securing the Jewish homeland.

Why would the US help Israel fight against a NATO member?

They wouldn't. Nor would they, or NATO, help Turkey. NATO will make moves to bring the conflict to an end peacefully, probably via threatening intense sanctions. You would see economic moves from the United States towards Israel, for example, mostly dealing with military equipment and the cutting of it off. You would also see moves towards Turkey.
But NATO will not support either side, nor will individual nations.

[Nazi Israel Land]

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[Kemaliste]

Israel will win and pull through as it always does. It's similar situation to when the Syrians, Egyptians, Lebanese (?), and Jordanians all tried to conquer Israel. The US will assist Israel with supplies, and they shall be victorious in securing the Jewish homeland.

Why would the US help Israel fight against a NATO member?

If USA does it, its prestige around the world will be shaken and they can't act like '' gendarme of the world '' anymore because nobody will trust them. And NATO will come to end of course.

They don't have to support Turkey but they can find a different solution than supporting one of the sides.

[Augustus Este]

Why would the US help Israel fight against a NATO member?

They wouldn't. Nor would they, or NATO, help Turkey. NATO will make moves to bring the conflict to an end peacefully, probably via threatening intense sanctions. You would see economic moves from the United States towards Israel, for example, mostly dealing with military equipment and the cutting of it off. You would also see moves towards Turkey.
But NATO will not support either side, nor will individual nations.

That is, if Israel and Turkey even went to war in the first place, which still doesn't seem likely to me.

[Kemaliste]

Yep, they sure would die. Not sure why dying necessarily means you'll win, though, since I'd much rather be the guy doing the killing and then surviving. No one is calling Turkey weak or its soldiers cowards, but being brave and strong doesn't mean that somehow you are immune to defeat.

I told him but he doesn't get it, you win by making the other guy die, not by dying yourself.

It's bravely, man. Strategy is going dying in order to stop enemy forces for a while while waiting for armed forces to come.

[Setulan]

I agree with Marsh, a war isn't about sheer numbers or the size of the nation, it's about who has the initiative, who can hit harder and faster, and who has the experience and tactics to win.

Besides, war is not won in internet. Turkish army is full of brave soldiers who can die immediately if their commander orders.

Because truly, wars are won by commanders ordering their soldiers to die.

You know, I've been observing this thread from a distance, and some people have been making good points. Whereas your points generally go something like "RAWR TURKEY IS BEST." So please explain something to me.

How the hell is Turkey supposed to use its apparently overwhelmingly superior military against Israel? Keeping in mind that the Israeli Air Force, no matter what you think of their national policy, is widely accepted as one of the best in the world. And keeping in mind that Turkey has no land borders with Israel. So assuming that some country lets Turkey move troops through it to get to Israel (doubtful), and assuming that said advance doesn't lead them directly to the Golan (ask the Syrians how much fun it is to attack that position), they're still fighting at the end of a very long supply line while the Israelis are quiet literally next to their homes.

Moreover, everyone seems to discount the Israeli Navy. I know they don't get much lovin on these kinds of forums because everyone is focused on their army and air force, but it isn't exactly a force to be sneezed at. I admit I know virtually nothing about the Turkish Navy, but I'm not sure how a navy with no aircraft carriers will defeat the IAF.

So by all means, please explain how these problems will be solved, ideally without jingoistic bullshit.


As for the topic itself, I highly doubt that the countries will go to war. Neither wants it, and the national sentiment in Israel is so anti-government right now that I think any tough talk from Bibi regarding Turkey will result in some bad juju all around. Besides, Israel isn't dumb enough to attack a NATO country, and Turkey isn't dumb enough to attack a country that is backed so heavily by the U.S.

[Alexiandra]

I told him but he doesn't get it, you win by making the other guy die, not by dying yourself.

It's bravely, man. Strategy is going dying in order to stop enemy forces for a while while waiting for armed forces to come.

You've been watching too much 300 I think.

[Holy Marsh]

I told him but he doesn't get it, you win by making the other guy die, not by dying yourself.

It's bravely, man. Strategy is going dying in order to stop enemy forces for a while while waiting for armed forces to come.

Not an effective strategy at all, especially in the type of war we are discussing.

[Baltenstein]

I told him but he doesn't get it, you win by making the other guy die, not by dying yourself.

It's bravely, man. Strategy is going dying in order to stop enemy forces for a while while waiting for armed forces to come.

Worst strategy ever.

[Nazi Israel Land]

They wouldn't. Nor would they, or NATO, help Turkey. NATO will make moves to bring the conflict to an end peacefully, probably via threatening intense sanctions. You would see economic moves from the United States towards Israel, for example, mostly dealing with military equipment and the cutting of it off. You would also see moves towards Turkey.
But NATO will not support either side, nor will individual nations.

That is, if Israel and Turkey even went to war in the first place, which still doesn't seem likely to me.

^This.

Turkey is saber rattling. It doesn't want a war. This is all a big show to get Israel to pay out some money, the end.

Though Turkey may regret its eagerness for a pissing contest, now with Israel extending interest in Greece and (rumors say) the Kurds. I will laugh if in the end this earns Turkey a Kurdish uprising funded by Israel.

[Kemaliste]

It's bravely, man. Strategy is going dying in order to stop enemy forces for a while while waiting for armed forces to come.

You've been watching too much 300 I think.

It happent in Gallipoli War against british forces You can just dream the things we've already done in real life.

[-St George]

That is, if Israel and Turkey even went to war in the first place, which still doesn't seem likely to me.

^This.

Turkey is saber rattling. It doesn't want a war. This is all a big show to get Israel to pay out some money, the end.

Though Turkey may regret its eagerness for a pissing contest, now with Israel extending interest in Greece and (rumors say) the Kurds. I will laugh if in the end this earns Turkey a Kurdish uprising funded by Israel.

The Kurds are already rebelling.

[Alexiandra]

You've been watching too much 300 I think.

It happent in Gallipoli War against british forces

And look how WW1 ended for Turkey.

[-St George]

You've been watching too much 300 I think.

It happent in Gallipoli War against british forces You can just dream the things we've already done in real life.

Yep because a failed amphibious invasion by British forces is exactly what any Israeli-Turk War would look like.

[Holy Marsh]

You've been watching too much 300 I think.

It happent in Gallipoli War against british forces You can just dream the things we've already done in real life.

This is effective in a modern war against Israel how?

[Nazi Israel Land]

The Kurds are already rebelling.

I should have said a full uprising. The current one is rather lacking.

[Kemaliste]

It happent in Gallipoli War against british forces

And look how WW1 ended for Turkey.

It's Germany's problem, not us. We've won against them in war of independence and sent them away from Istanbul.

[Alexiandra]

It happent in Gallipoli War against british forces You can just dream the things we've already done in real life.

This is effective in a modern war against Israel how?

The Gallipoli campaign was doomed from the start, largely due to Allied fault, not Turkish tactical brilliance.

[Baltenstein]

And look how WW1 ended for Turkey.

It's Germany's problem, not us. We've won against them in war of independence and sent them away from Istanbul.

So the Ottomans won WW1 now?

[Alexiandra]

And look how WW1 ended for Turkey.

It's Germany's problem, not us. We've won against them in war of independence and sent them away from Istanbul.

As soon as you win a war it's a glorious victory, but when you lose it's the fault of the allies you put your faith behind?

[Kemaliste]

It's Germany's problem, not us. We've won against them in war of independence and sent them away from Istanbul.

So the Ottomans won WW1 now?

We've won against Allied Forces tearing up the treaty they made us sign because we lost in WW1 and sending them away from our lands .

[Alexiandra]

So the Ottomans won WW1 now?

We've won against Allied Forces tearing up the treaty they made us sign because we lost in WW1 and sending them away from our lands .

At what point did this happen...?

[Kemaliste]

It's Germany's problem, not us. We've won against them in war of independence and sent them away from Istanbul.

As soon as you win a war it's a glorious victory, but when you lose it's the fault of the allies you put your faith behind?

Are you ignorant ? We didn't lose the war militarily, we *ucked up the British forces and made them leave Canakkale and Istanbul and that's ENOUGH !

[New England and The Maritimes]

Schwabenreich defeated this thread 20 pages ago. Not sure why there's still debate.

[Nazi Israel Land]

Schwabenreich defeated this thread 20 pages ago. Not sure why there's still debate.

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