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Postby Trixiestan » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:40 pm

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Credo of a Nazi.

Here we go, childish name calling. :roll:

You called me a homophobe earlier mate. You're not exactly one to talk in that regard.
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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:41 pm

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Alyakia wrote:That doesn't fucking justify absuing them after the situation was under control and bullets magically finding the way to the back of their heads.

I will when you do what I asked.

What did you ask? I already looked at your sources, now you chose to act obtuse and ignore my source? Why should that encourage me to do anything you ask?

Do you even fucking read my posts?
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Postby Alexiandra » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:41 pm

Kemaliste wrote:
Alexiandra wrote:Yes I have been doing it...I was wondering when you'd catch on that my link made no sense :P


Collect all of arab armies joined Six Day War, and they will not give you even half strength of Turkish army. The thing I said Turkish army can't be compared to arabs and we've already proved our strength in our indepence war against most powerful armies.

While I can see that you want to support your home country, I don't think this will become all out war in any eventuality, and if it does it will only be comprised of small and fast paced skirmishes which are dominated by the first strike capabilities of Israel.
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Postby Svormannhelm » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:41 pm

Alexiandra wrote:But in all seriousness, while the Turkish nation may have been strong in the past, it stands no chance against the Israeli war machine. Israel has troops and equipment on par with that of the US.


'Cuz we use Brown Bess Muskets and still use Janissaries, amirite?

Seriously, we use the G3.

Because you suck. And we hate you. :P

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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:41 pm

"Could you be more specific? The actual time, and what youtube video it seems to be in?"
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:42 pm

Salvarity wrote:
Nazi Israel Land wrote: :rofl:



simple questions.


What do you think of Islam?

What do you think of Hitler?

What is your IQ Level?

Only if you tell me:

What you think of latkas?

What do you think of Natalie Portman?

What is your height?

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Postby Alexiandra » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:42 pm

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Alexiandra wrote:But in all seriousness, while the Turkish nation may have been strong in the past, it stands no chance against the Israeli war machine. Israel has troops and equipment on par with that of the US.


'Cuz we use Brown Bess Muskets and still use Janissaries, amirite?

Seriously, we use the G3.

Because you suck. And we hate you. :P

Lol and before anyone asks, no I am not from Israel.
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Postby Augustus Este » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:42 pm

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Internal? Gaza and the West Bank aren't part of Israel.

Well the rockets they shoot become internal concerns, so we have to lump them together. ;)


Surely that means you should acknowledge that it is an international dispute requiring the cooperation of surrounding nations (and potential nations) to work it out?

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Postby Kemaliste » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:43 pm

Alexiandra wrote:But in all seriousness, while the Turkish nation may have been strong in the past, it stands no chance against the Israeli war machine. Israel has troops and equipment on par with that of the US.


It was so in that war as well. Somebody was so sure that they would erase Turks from the map with their super technologic armed soldiers as they had already begun to discuss how they will divide the lands before attacking.

We love to make surprises, we were born this way ;)
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:44 pm

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Your citizens were warned. They chose to ignore that warning. When you see a fence with a sign that says "20,000 Volts, do not touch," don't blame the fence if your get shocked.

It's more like if the fence somehow magically shocked you when you stood close to it. Then shocked you again. And again. And again. And again. Then said it was alright to do that to you because you were going to touch it. Then some tit on the internet defended it.

You act as if they were surprised. Which preparing themselves for a fight demonstrates otherwise.
And please don't call me a tit, it is hurtful and I take offense. That is attacking me and not my views. Call my views tits. ;)

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Postby Salvarity » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:44 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Salvarity wrote:

simple questions.


What do you think of Islam?

What do you think of Hitler?

What is your IQ Level?

Only if you tell me:

What you think of latkas?

What do you think of Natalie Portman?

What is your height?



it's latkes and they taste good.

Natalie Portman was in Star wars Prequel which i liked. So she is a good actress

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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:44 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
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You have already been doing it. PKK uses some Israeli weapons but it's government's fault as they deal with hamas. It gives a disadvantage for us.

And If some Israeli peace activists went to PKK camps, they would be condemned or critisiced but definitely NOT killed ! There is no tolerance here, maybe they were not right but Israeli army killed our citizens and it will not be forgiven by us.


Your citizens were warned. They chose to ignore that warning. When you see a fence with a sign that says "20,000 Volts, do not touch," don't blame the fence if your get shocked.


Electric fences do not have a conscience. Electric fences cannot be held morally or legally responsible.

So Israel is an electric fence now?

I think not. I think the majority of Israelis have a conscience, and I think they can be held morally and legally responsible. I think they, like any nation-size aggregation of people, are mostly good.

And I think their interests are very badly served by champions like you.
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Postby Kemaliste » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:45 pm

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Collect all of arab armies joined Six Day War, and they will not give you even half strength of Turkish army. The thing I said Turkish army can't be compared to arabs and we've already proved our strength in our indepence war against most powerful armies.

While I can see that you want to support your home country, I don't think this will become all out war in any eventuality, and if it does it will only be comprised of small and fast paced skirmishes which are dominated by the first strike capabilities of Israel.


Israel shall be drowned if all of Turkish people spit out. Who are you talking to ? It is nothing, please.

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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:45 pm

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Nazi Israel Land wrote:Here we go, childish name calling. :roll:

You called me a homophobe earlier mate. You're not exactly one to talk in that regard.

You made a homophobic remark. Do you retract it?

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Postby Salvarity » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:46 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Trixiestan wrote:You called me a homophobe earlier mate. You're not exactly one to talk in that regard.

You made a homophobic remark. Do you retract it?



no he didn't
you just said that out of nothing
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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:46 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Alyakia wrote:It's more like if the fence somehow magically shocked you when you stood close to it. Then shocked you again. And again. And again. And again. Then said it was alright to do that to you because you were going to touch it. Then some tit on the internet defended it.

You act as if they were surprised. Which preparing themselves for a fight demonstrates otherwise.
And please don't call me a tit, it is hurtful and I take offense. That is attacking me and not my views. Call my views tits. ;)

Are you ever going to actually fucking adress the abuses that took palces ~~*AFTER*~~ the fight and the magical "back of the head" seeking bullets?

Your views are tits. Literally tits. Bad tits.
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:47 pm

Augustus Este wrote:
Nazi Israel Land wrote:Well the rockets they shoot become internal concerns, so we have to lump them together. ;)


Surely that means you should acknowledge that it is an international dispute requiring the cooperation of surrounding nations (and potential nations) to work it out?

Typically allowing outsiders who have little real understanding of a conflict to put their two cents in accomplishes little.
But it is a kind sentiment.

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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:47 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Trixiestan wrote:You called me a homophobe earlier mate. You're not exactly one to talk in that regard.

You made a homophobic remark. Do you retract it?

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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:48 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Nazi Israel Land wrote:You act as if they were surprised. Which preparing themselves for a fight demonstrates otherwise.
And please don't call me a tit, it is hurtful and I take offense. That is attacking me and not my views. Call my views tits. ;)

Are you ever going to actually fucking adress the abuses that took palces ~~*AFTER*~~ the fight and the magical "back of the head" seeking bullets?

Your views are tits. Literally tits. Bad tits.

I thought I did, I disagree with the Turkish doctors and agree with the Israeli military spokesman.

And thank you.

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Postby Svormannhelm » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:48 pm

Kemaliste wrote:
Alexiandra wrote:But in all seriousness, while the Turkish nation may have been strong in the past, it stands no chance against the Israeli war machine. Israel has troops and equipment on par with that of the US.


It was so in that war as well. Somebody was so sure that they would erase Turks from the map with their super technologic armed soldiers as they had already begun to discuss how they will divide the lands before attacking.

We love to make surprises, we were born this way ;)


''Hello gentlemen. Look at your power. Now look at us. Now look back at your power. Now back to us. Sadly, you aren't us. But if you stopped being so British and arrogant about wars and switch to the Turkish mindset, you could fight like you are us. Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a dock, with the soldiers your soldiers could fight like. What's in your head? Back at us. It's a bayonet that's gonna push you down into the Aegean sea. Look again - the bayonets are now diamonds! Anything can happen when your soldiers fight like us instead of like a lady. We're on a horse.''
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Postby Holy Marsh » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:49 pm

Kemaliste wrote:
Alexiandra wrote:While I can see that you want to support your home country, I don't think this will become all out war in any eventuality, and if it does it will only be comprised of small and fast paced skirmishes which are dominated by the first strike capabilities of Israel.


Israel shall be drowned if all of Turkish people spit out. Who are you talking to ? It is nothing, please.

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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:50 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Are you ever going to actually fucking adress the abuses that took palces ~~*AFTER*~~ the fight and the magical "back of the head" seeking bullets?

Your views are tits. Literally tits. Bad tits.

I thought I did, I disagree with the Turkish doctors and agree with the Israeli military spokesman.

And thank you.

So... You distrust medical professionals, presumably because of their race and/or nationality, but fully trust military spokesmen from the government, because the government never lies?
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:51 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Your citizens were warned. They chose to ignore that warning. When you see a fence with a sign that says "20,000 Volts, do not touch," don't blame the fence if your get shocked.


Electric fences do not have a conscience. Electric fences cannot be held morally or legally responsible.

So Israel is an electric fence now?

I think not. I think the majority of Israelis have a conscience, and I think they can be held morally and legally responsible. I think they, like any nation-size aggregation of people, are mostly good.

And I think their interests are very badly served by champions like you.


No, Israel is a lion. But for the example an electric fence works.

And I agree, I'd hate to be a citizen of any country that would let a guy like me be a citizen.

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Postby Augustus Este » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:51 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Augustus Este wrote:
Surely that means you should acknowledge that it is an international dispute requiring the cooperation of surrounding nations (and potential nations) to work it out?

Typically allowing outsiders who have little real understanding of a conflict to put their two cents in accomplishes little.
But it is a kind sentiment.


I would say that securing the support of Syria, Jordan, Egypt and other surrounding or powerful predominantly muslim nations would be required for any practical peace plan, unless you want Hamas to become a long term problem of course.

I also wouldn't define them as outsiders, or no more so than other nations involved like the United States.

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Postby Alexiandra » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:51 pm

Kemaliste wrote:
Alexiandra wrote:While I can see that you want to support your home country, I don't think this will become all out war in any eventuality, and if it does it will only be comprised of small and fast paced skirmishes which are dominated by the first strike capabilities of Israel.


Israel shall be drowned if all of Turkish people spit out. Who are you talking to ? It is nothing, please.

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Massive manpower isn't always the answer - Israel is renowned for its intelligent tactics against overwhelming numbers. In the Six Day War we have been mentioning, it defeated several opposing nations on its own, and proceeded to make offensive strikes on multiple fronts. If their efforts were concentrated on one country, even on one as large as Turkey, it would be very bad for the enemy.
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