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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:04 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Alyakia wrote:So, did someone FORCE those soldiers to abuse the passengers after the situation was under control? :roll:

Any proof of abuse, other than wilds claims? I mean those "peace activists" tried to abuse wounded Israeli soldiers, so I can't really take their word.


I gave you links before. You ignored them.
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:04 pm

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Nazi Israel Land wrote:Or not. Sucks to be them. ;)

You're lucky karma doesn't exist.

I wish more common sense did, so we could prevent more people from sympathizing with fools and wannabe martyrs.

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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:05 pm

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Alyakia wrote:You're lucky karma doesn't exist.

I wish more common sense did, so we could prevent more people from sympathizing with fools and wannabe martyrs.

So, uh, you Israeli lol?
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:05 pm

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Nazi Israel Land wrote:Or not. Sucks to be them. ;)




Nazi ISRAEL Land.


I think the name says Enough

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It's satire of the general dislike Israel has by the weakminded.

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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:06 pm

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Nazi Israel Land wrote:Or not. Sucks to be them. ;)

Yeah. You see, that isn't an argument. That's you being silly and trying to provoke a reaction out of someone. Which is hilarious, since that's exactly what Israel fucking does, and then bawwws when it inevitably gets attacked because of it~

See the comment above yours. ;)

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Postby Salvarity » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:06 pm

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Alyakia wrote:You're lucky karma doesn't exist.

I wish more common sense did, so we could prevent more people from sympathizing with fools and wannabe martyrs.




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You need some Common Sense. Or Atleast some knowledge of International Law
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Postby Trixiestan » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:07 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Salvarity wrote:


Nazi ISRAEL Land.


I think the name says Enough

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It's satire of the general dislike Israel has by the weakminded.

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The joke being there is no joke and your name is pretty factual. o:

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Postby Aglorea » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:07 pm

I don't like Israel, and I'm not a fan of Turkey either. They're both like annoying, crying children who need to grow up.

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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:08 pm

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Nazi Israel Land wrote:Any proof of abuse, other than wilds claims? I mean those "peace activists" tried to abuse wounded Israeli soldiers, so I can't really take their word.


I gave you links before. You ignored them.

Probably missed them, I was out for bit. If you could post them again I'll take a look.

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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:09 pm

Salvarity wrote:You need some Common Sense. Or Atleast some knowledge of International Law

Ok, show us in international law where you can't stop vessels in international waters that have declared their intention to break your blockade.

I'll wait.

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Postby Kemaliste » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:11 pm

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Wa ... dependence

Against the most powerful nations at the same time and different fronts. Couldn't we handle a simple and small 10 millions nation ?

none of Turkish soldiers are afraid to die, don't worry.

You win wars by making the other guys die for their country, not by dying for yours. And that was almost 100 years ago. All those soldiers are dead, or most of them.


Turkish Armed Forces still carry their spirit and all of our soldiers are ready to go to die, you'll never understand it though.
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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:11 pm

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I gave you links before. You ignored them.

Probably missed them, I was out for bit. If you could post them again I'll take a look.

" UNITED NATIONS — A United Nations review has found that Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza is legal and appropriate but that the way its forces boarded a Turkish-based flotilla trying to break that blockade 15 months ago, killing nine passengers, was excessive and unreasonable."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... sy-results
http://www.unmultimedia.org/radio/engli ... 02712.html
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Postby Kemaliste » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:12 pm

UnitedStatesOfAmerica- wrote:The Turks seem to be craving a revival of their old Empire, when they were known as the Ottomans.


No, just no.
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Postby Svormannhelm » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:13 pm

Just to let you guys know, the Kurds are shooting unarmed police officers as they play football, decapitate Turkish soldiers (Two of them got off to the next world that way, poor bastards) and they usually try to lower morale by killing Government Officers (Teachers, doctors, police officers).

The Turkish Army trying to stop Insurgency that's the biggest step in front of the modernization of Eastern Turkey is Cultural Genocide? I can't see how.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:15 pm

Svormannhelm wrote:Just to let you guys know, the Kurds are shooting unarmed police officers as they play football, decapitate Turkish soldiers (Two of them got off to the next world that way, poor bastards) and they usually try to lower morale by killing Government Officers (Teachers, doctors, police officers).

The Turkish Army trying to stop Insurgency that's the biggest step in front of the modernization of Eastern Turkey is Cultural Genocide? I can't see how.

(I'm Fischermann btw).

You'll provide sources for those killings, of course. After all, anyone can claim anything.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:15 pm

Kemaliste wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You win wars by making the other guys die for their country, not by dying for yours. And that was almost 100 years ago. All those soldiers are dead, or most of them.


Turkish Armed Forces still carry their spirit and all of our soldiers are ready to go to die, you'll never understand it though.

Oh, I understand, don't worry.
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:15 pm

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Nazi Israel Land wrote:Probably missed them, I was out for bit. If you could post them again I'll take a look.

" UNITED NATIONS — A United Nations review has found that Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza is legal and appropriate but that the way its forces boarded a Turkish-based flotilla trying to break that blockade 15 months ago, killing nine passengers, was excessive and unreasonable."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... sy-results
http://www.unmultimedia.org/radio/engli ... 02712.html

And I disagree with their interpretation. The activists on the ship came ready for a fight, and they started it. If they're upset with how it ended up, too bad.

The footage released vindicates the commandos by showing that the "activists" were preparing for a fight with weapons hours before the raid. And that they attacked first. And that the captain of the ship asked them to stop resisting.

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Postby Kemaliste » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:16 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Svormannhelm wrote:Just to let you guys know, the Kurds are shooting unarmed police officers as they play football, decapitate Turkish soldiers (Two of them got off to the next world that way, poor bastards) and they usually try to lower morale by killing Government Officers (Teachers, doctors, police officers).

The Turkish Army trying to stop Insurgency that's the biggest step in front of the modernization of Eastern Turkey is Cultural Genocide? I can't see how.

(I'm Fischermann btw).

You'll provide sources for those killings, of course. After all, anyone can claim anything.


The event he mentioned happent today:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-09-05
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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:16 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Salvarity wrote:You need some Common Sense. Or Atleast some knowledge of International Law

Ok, show us in international law where you can't stop vessels in international waters that have declared their intention to break your blockade.

I'll wait.


Show us in international law where a "blockade" is anything but an act of war.

Is Israel in a declared state of war with Palestine, or with that part of it called the Gaza Strip?
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Postby Trixiestan » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:16 pm

Svormannhelm wrote:Just to let you guys know, the Kurds are shooting unarmed police officers as they play football, decapitate Turkish soldiers (Two of them got off to the next world that way, poor bastards) and they usually try to lower morale by killing Government Officers (Teachers, doctors, police officers).

The Turkish Army trying to stop Insurgency that's the biggest step in front of the modernization of Eastern Turkey is Cultural Genocide? I can't see how.

(I'm Fischermann btw).

Because it's a minority group that wants independence and sees the modernisations as attempts at Turkifiying the population, isn't that obvious? How would you feel if some guy came into your house and started replacing all your furniture with furniture he liked, rather than yourself? You'd be mad as hell. I'm not going to say I agree with what the Kurds are doing, but I can certainly sort of see why they'd react in that fashion.
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:17 pm

Svormannhelm wrote:The Turkish Army trying to stop Insurgency that's the biggest step in front of the modernization of Eastern Turkey is Cultural Genocide? I can't see how.

The Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the world without their own country. Turkey should let them be independent. Trying to make them Turks is cultural genocide, and blaming them for not being "modern" is a cheap cop-out.

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Postby Kemaliste » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:18 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Svormannhelm wrote:The Turkish Army trying to stop Insurgency that's the biggest step in front of the modernization of Eastern Turkey is Cultural Genocide? I can't see how.

The Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the world without their own country. Turkey should let them be independent. Trying to make them Turks is cultural genocide, and blaming them for not being "modern" is a cheap cop-out.


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Postby Svormannhelm » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:18 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Svormannhelm wrote:Just to let you guys know, the Kurds are shooting unarmed police officers as they play football, decapitate Turkish soldiers (Two of them got off to the next world that way, poor bastards) and they usually try to lower morale by killing Government Officers (Teachers, doctors, police officers).

The Turkish Army trying to stop Insurgency that's the biggest step in front of the modernization of Eastern Turkey is Cultural Genocide? I can't see how.

(I'm Fischermann btw).

You'll provide sources for those killings, of course. After all, anyone can claim anything.


http://www.voanews.com/turkish/news/Tun ... 41598.html

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I can't find sources, but that shit is all over the news usually (Except the decapitated soldiers thing, for which I can't say anything so it's probably a lie).

The others I back up, however. I see that shit all the time on the news whenever I wake up.

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Postby Trixiestan » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:18 pm

Nazi Israel Land wrote:
Alyakia wrote:" UNITED NATIONS — A United Nations review has found that Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza is legal and appropriate but that the way its forces boarded a Turkish-based flotilla trying to break that blockade 15 months ago, killing nine passengers, was excessive and unreasonable."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... sy-results
http://www.unmultimedia.org/radio/engli ... 02712.html

And I disagree with their interpretation. The activists on the ship came ready for a fight, and they started it. If they're upset with how it ended up, too bad.

The footage released vindicates the commandos by showing that the "activists" were preparing for a fight with weapons hours before the raid. And that they attacked first. And that the captain of the ship asked them to stop resisting.

Yeah, tough. Just because what occured didn't match your dreamed-up interpretation of the events, doesn't mean they didn't actually happen. Stop trying to defend a bunch of commandos who attacked flotillas filled with protesters.

Also seriously, what is your opinion on Nelson Mandela?
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:19 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Nazi Israel Land wrote:Ok, show us in international law where you can't stop vessels in international waters that have declared their intention to break your blockade.

I'll wait.


Show us in international law where a "blockade" is anything but an act of war.

Is Israel in a declared state of war with Palestine, or with that part of it called the Gaza Strip?

The blockade has been declared legal. Your point is moot. Maybe you should help Salvarity with his international law research instead of presenting poor remarks.

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