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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:08 am

Alyakia wrote:
Nazi Israel Land wrote:Yes, and France supposedly had the strongest army at the start of WWII.

No one has actually said that I haven't heard that and several French leaders had pointed out how the new defences would fail?

ftfy

And there are Turkish generals, I'm sure, pointing out how they would not succeed in a war against Israel.

Hopefully their voice carries far, for their nation's sake. Numbers and rankings do not a victory make.

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Postby Kemaliste » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:08 am

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It is fifth in quality, IMO.

Global Firepower ranks them as third in NATO.

Quality? When was the last time the Turks actual fought anyone besides Kurds and Cypriot Greeks?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Wa ... dependence

Against the most powerful nations at the same time and different fronts. Couldn't we handle a simple and small 10 millions nation ?

none of Turkish soldiers are afraid to die, don't worry.
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Postby Galla- » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:09 am

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Nazi Israel Land wrote:Yes, and France supposedly had the strongest army at the start of WWII.


No, it didn't.


Yes it did.

The French Army was the strongest in the world at that time, with the most advanced tanks of the era.
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Postby Kemaliste » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:09 am

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Alyakia wrote:No one has actually said that I haven't heard that and several French leaders had pointed out how the new defences would fail?

ftfy

And there are Turkish generals, I'm sure, pointing out how they would not succeed in a war against Israel.

Hopefully their voice carries far, for their nation's sake. Numbers and rankings do not a victory make.


Yes they don't. It's about being decisive and brave.
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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:09 am

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No, it didn't.


Yes it did.

The French Army was the strongest in the world at that time, with the most advanced tanks of the era.

Oh, do go on.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:10 am

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No, it didn't.


Yes it did.

The French Army was the strongest in the world at that time, with the most advanced tanks of the era.


Not really.

Its power depended heavily on its colonies. And France did not want to fight the war from its colonies.
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Postby Galla- » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:10 am

Alyakia wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Yes it did.

The French Army was the strongest in the world at that time, with the most advanced tanks of the era.

Oh, do go on.


At least the French didn't run away like the British cowards tbh.

BEF and Dunkirk was the most abysmal clusterfuck of any nation ever.

It's, quite honestly, the British at fault, not the French, for the Germans winning the Battle of France.
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Postby Jagalonia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:10 am

I'm picturing a bunch of turkeys pecking Israel to death....Am I wrong in this assumption?
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Postby Nazi Israel Land » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:11 am

Kemaliste wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Quality? When was the last time the Turks actual fought anyone besides Kurds and Cypriot Greeks?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Wa ... dependence

Against the most powerful nations at the same time and different fronts. Couldn't we handle a simple and small 10 millions nation ?

none of Turkish soldiers are afraid to die, don't worry.

Fighting 3 Frenchmen and a British gunboat isn't winning a decisive victory against the most powerful nations of the era.
Had the really wished to they could have mopped the floor the Turkey and laughed over it later. They'd already mopped the floor with the Turks before. But there was no real interest in fighting over another scratch of useless territory.

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Postby Jagalonia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:11 am

Galla- wrote:
Keronians wrote:
No, it didn't.


Yes it did.

The French Army was the strongest in the world at that time, with the most advanced tanks of the era.

Sauce please.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:12 am

Galla- wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Oh, do go on.


At least the French didn't run away like the British cowards tbh.

BEF and Dunkirk was the most abysmal clusterfuck of any nation ever.

It's, quite honestly, the British at fault, not the French, for the Germans winning the Battle of France.


:rofl:

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I instantly regret using France as an example. :meh:

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Postby Galla- » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:12 am

Keronians wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Yes it did.

The French Army was the strongest in the world at that time, with the most advanced tanks of the era.


Not really.

Its power depended heavily on its colonies. And France did not want to fight the war from its colonies.


France did not want to fight the war period.

But that's not why they lost.

It was Dunkirk, and the fact that the French officer corps was actually quite awful.

However, the French Army fought quite well in the actual battles, if their strategy left much to be desired.

Keronians wrote:
Galla- wrote:
At least the French didn't run away like the British cowards tbh.

BEF and Dunkirk was the most abysmal clusterfuck of any nation ever.

It's, quite honestly, the British at fault, not the French, for the Germans winning the Battle of France.


:rofl:

My history teacher is crying right now. Though I have yet to determine whether it's from laughter or sadness.


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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:13 am

Galla- wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Oh, do go on.


At least the French didn't run away like the British cowards tbh.

BEF and Dunkirk was the most abysmal clusterfuck of any nation ever.

It's, quite honestly, the British at fault, not the French, for the Germans winning the Battle of France.

That is not relevant to whether France had the strongest army or the most advancecd tanks.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:13 am

Galla- wrote:At least the French didn't run away like the British cowards tbh.

BEF and Dunkirk was the most abysmal clusterfuck of any nation ever.

It's, quite honestly, the British at fault, not the French, for the Germans winning the Battle of France.

So why didn't the mighty French stand up to the Germans by themselves then if the British only made thing worse? Why didn't this unstoppable French Force just say to the British "Don't worry. We got this" and handle it themselves?
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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:13 am

Nazi Israel Land wrote:I instantly regret using France as an example. :meh:

EUROFIGHT.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:14 am

Alyakia wrote:
Nazi Israel Land wrote:I instantly regret using France as an example. :meh:

EUROFIGHT.

Someone needs to edit the title to refer to French surrender in some way.
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Postby Galla- » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:14 am

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Galla- wrote:At least the French didn't run away like the British cowards tbh.

BEF and Dunkirk was the most abysmal clusterfuck of any nation ever.

It's, quite honestly, the British at fault, not the French, for the Germans winning the Battle of France.

So why didn't the mighty French stand up to the Germans by themselves then if the British only made thing worse? Why didn't this unstoppable French Force just say to the British "Don't worry. We got this" and handle it themselves?


Their General staff were shit.

Alyakia wrote:
Galla- wrote:
At least the French didn't run away like the British cowards tbh.

BEF and Dunkirk was the most abysmal clusterfuck of any nation ever.

It's, quite honestly, the British at fault, not the French, for the Germans winning the Battle of France.

That is not relevant to whether France had the strongest army or the most advancecd tanks.


Neither of which are counter-factual statements.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:15 am

Galla- wrote:
France did not want to fight the war period.

But that's not why they lost.

It was Dunkirk, and the fact that the French officer corps was actually quite awful.

However, the French Army fought quite well in the actual battles, if their strategy left much to be desired.

I don't think any nation wanted to fight in the war. Period.
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Postby Jagalonia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:15 am

Galla- wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Not really.

Its power depended heavily on its colonies. And France did not want to fight the war from its colonies.


France did not want to fight the war period.

But that's not why they lost.

It was Dunkirk, and the fact that the French officer corps was actually quite awful.

However, the French Army fought quite well in the actual battles, if their strategy left much to be desired.

Keronians wrote:
:rofl:

My history teacher is crying right now. Though I have yet to determine whether it's from laughter or sadness.


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If the french were at the strongest starting position, how did Germany roflstomp them alone within weeks.
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Postby Galla- » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:15 am

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Galla- wrote:
France did not want to fight the war period.

But that's not why they lost.

It was Dunkirk, and the fact that the French officer corps was actually quite awful.

However, the French Army fought quite well in the actual battles, if their strategy left much to be desired.

I don't think any nation wanted to fight in the war. Period.


Germany certainly did.

Jagalonia wrote:
Galla- wrote:
France did not want to fight the war period.

But that's not why they lost.

It was Dunkirk, and the fact that the French officer corps was actually quite awful.

However, the French Army fought quite well in the actual battles, if their strategy left much to be desired.



Keronians: "LOL cheese eating surrender monkeys derp derp"

If the french were at the strongest starting position, how did Germany roflstomp them alone within weeks.


French and British leadership left much to be desired.

Given that the Germans lost almost a fifth of a million men during the campaign, it was "roflstomp", either.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:15 am

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Galla- wrote:
France did not want to fight the war period.

But that's not why they lost.

It was Dunkirk, and the fact that the French officer corps was actually quite awful.

However, the French Army fought quite well in the actual battles, if their strategy left much to be desired.

I don't think any nation wanted to fight in the war. Period.

WW2? The Germans definitely did.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:16 am

Galla- wrote:Their General staff were shit.

So whether the French army was good or not is irrelevant if they lacked the officers to be able to formulate competent strategies?
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Postby Alyakia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:17 am

Galla- wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:So why didn't the mighty French stand up to the Germans by themselves then if the British only made thing worse? Why didn't this unstoppable French Force just say to the British "Don't worry. We got this" and handle it themselves?


Their General staff were shit.

Alyakia wrote:That is not relevant to whether France had the strongest army or the most advancecd tanks.


Neither of which are counter-factual statements.

If they aren't "counter-factual" then it should be pretty easy to explain how they are factual instead of throwing out tripe about the British cowards.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:17 am

Galla- wrote:I don't think any nation wanted to fight in the war. Period.


Germany certainly did.[/quote]
Fine.

I don't think most nations wanted to fight the war and most likely not all Germans did.
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