Why Is Life So Unfair?

[French Union]

Frankly if millions have to starve for my current living standred, which isn't that great compared to the majorty of the country, I'm fine with that. Why should I care?

In addition to what CM said, basic human decency? That attitude is actually as bad as if you were torturing someone by starving them yourself. Putting it out of your mind because you have to is one thing, but to not care in the slightest is another.

Why do you deserve to have a high standard of living directly due to the suffering of others?

I never said I do deserve it, but if given the choice I'd keep it if it means others had to suffer in a heartbeat.

[Conserative Morality]

No, it doesn't.

Supply will also increase, balancing out the increase in demand, thus resulting in equilibrium.

Of course, this would require a change in production in developed countries, to avoid flooding the market. But it's nothing that can't be handled.

[Keronians]

No, it doesn't.

Supply will also increase, balancing out the increase in demand, thus resulting in equilibrium.

Of course, this would require a change in production in developed countries, to avoid flooding the market. But it's nothing that can't be handled.

Yup.

[Person012345]

In addition to what CM said, basic human decency? That attitude is actually as bad as if you were torturing someone by starving them yourself. Putting it out of your mind because you have to is one thing, but to not care in the slightest is another.

Why do you deserve to have a high standard of living directly due to the suffering of others?

I never said I do deserve it, but if given the choice I'd keep it if it means others had to suffer in a heartbeat.

But you agree that you do not deserve to? So, morally speaking you admit that your viewpoint is wrong?

[French Union]

I never said I do deserve it, but if given the choice I'd keep it if it means others had to suffer in a heartbeat.

But you agree that you do not deserve to? So, morally speaking you admit that your viewpoint is wrong?

Morally speaking? Sure.

[Person012345]

But you agree that you do not deserve to? So, morally speaking you admit that your viewpoint is wrong?

Morally speaking? Sure.

So you agree that you should care about those people? Even if you don't?

[South Asia Minor]

A direct response to this thread's title. Regardless of its current course.

There is no God. We are here because something exploded and then some dust and gas formed a big ball and some more dust formed a smaller ball and some atoms crashed together to make molecules and those molecules crashed together to make life. That life evolved from a single cell to a fish to a tetrapod to an ape to the complex sentient lifeform we call homo sapiens. There is nothing intrinsic to our programming that dictates we must help others or play fair. Some may find this beneficial in terms of gaining peace of mind and a superiority complex, but most humans, given the opportunity, will exploit others to reach their own goal. This has been a core truth of the nature of humanity long before Adam Smith came around. A human will kill if it would mean fulfilment in some satisfactory form, and no other human will give a damn that they did if it doesn't for them.

That's why when you turn on the news you'll get civil wars and spikes in murder and rape, and that's why if there was a news network in 30 AD it would be exactly the same. We can design the microchip and fire a man at the Moon but we can't learn to get along. It is beneficial for those in high places for people to be in low places, otherwise their position wouldn't be so high. Some are born with the drive and luck to rise to the top of the ladder, and some without the brains or the looks to grasp a single rung, and there is always going to be a ladder, be it racial, economic, or gender-biased. Someone's always going to lose.

Communism has never worked and never will, religion's message of peace and love has killed millions, a black guy can't get elected president and expect to get away with it, Miss South Carolina may not have a brain but she will always be richer than you, and Gandhi was assassinated.

Shit happens.

[Person012345]

A direct response to this thread's title. Regardless of its current course.

There is no God. We are here because something exploded and then some dust and gas formed a big ball and some more dust formed a smaller ball and some atoms crashed together to make molecules and those molecules crashed together to make life. That life evolved from a single cell to a fish to a tetrapod to an ape to the complex sentient lifeform we call homo sapiens. There is nothing intrinsic to our programming that dictates we must help others or play fair. Some may find this beneficial in terms of gaining peace of mind and a superiority complex, but most humans, given the opportunity, will exploit others to reach their own goal. This has been a core truth of the nature of humanity long before Adam Smith came around. A human will kill if it would mean fulfilment in some satisfactory form, and no other human will give a damn that they did if it doesn't for them.

That's why when you turn on the news you'll get civil wars and spikes in murder and rape, and that's why if there was a news network in 30 AD it would be exactly the same. We can design the microchip and fire a man at the Moon but we can't learn to get along. It is beneficial for those in high places for people to be in low places, otherwise their position wouldn't be so high. Some are born with the drive and luck to rise to the top of the ladder, and some without the brains or the looks to grasp a single rung, and there is always going to be a ladder.

Communism has never worked and never will, religion's message of peace and love has killed millions, a black guy can't get elected president and expect to get away with it, Miss South Carolina may not have a brain but she will always be richer than you, and Gandhi was assassinated.

Shit happens.

But... what about puppies and rainbows?

[South Asia Minor]

A direct response to this thread's title. Regardless of its current course.

There is no God. We are here because something exploded and then some dust and gas formed a big ball and some more dust formed a smaller ball and some atoms crashed together to make molecules and those molecules crashed together to make life. That life evolved from a single cell to a fish to a tetrapod to an ape to the complex sentient lifeform we call homo sapiens. There is nothing intrinsic to our programming that dictates we must help others or play fair. Some may find this beneficial in terms of gaining peace of mind and a superiority complex, but most humans, given the opportunity, will exploit others to reach their own goal. This has been a core truth of the nature of humanity long before Adam Smith came around. A human will kill if it would mean fulfilment in some satisfactory form, and no other human will give a damn that they did if it doesn't for them.

That's why when you turn on the news you'll get civil wars and spikes in murder and rape, and that's why if there was a news network in 30 AD it would be exactly the same. We can design the microchip and fire a man at the Moon but we can't learn to get along. It is beneficial for those in high places for people to be in low places, otherwise their position wouldn't be so high. Some are born with the drive and luck to rise to the top of the ladder, and some without the brains or the looks to grasp a single rung, and there is always going to be a ladder.

Communism has never worked and never will, religion's message of peace and love has killed millions, a black guy can't get elected president and expect to get away with it, Miss South Carolina may not have a brain but she will always be richer than you, and Gandhi was assassinated.

Shit happens.

But... what about puppies and rainbows?

Rainbows are LIES and puppies don't shut up.

;_;

[Suidwes-Afrika]

But... what about puppies and rainbows?

Rainbows are LIES and puppies don't shut up.

;_;

What a cynical take on life.

Do you ever appreciate the fact that you are alive right this moment, and well enough to waste time on the likes of NSG?

[Coccygia]

To quite (I think) Robinson Jeffers: "If these things offend you, why then, be angry at the sun."

[South Asia Minor]

Rainbows are LIES and puppies don't shut up.

;_;

What a cynical take on life.

Do you ever appreciate the fact that you are alive right this moment, and well enough to waste time on the likes of NSG?

Of course I do, and there are plenty of people that aren't. I never said I hated my life.

[Suidwes-Afrika]

What a cynical take on life.

Do you ever appreciate the fact that you are alive right this moment, and well enough to waste time on the likes of NSG?

Of course I do, and there are plenty of people that aren't. I never said I hated my life.

But....you just claimed that rainbows are lies and puppies never shut up.

Gracious, what colour is the sky in your world?

[South Asia Minor]

Of course I do, and there are plenty of people that aren't. I never said I hated my life.

But....you just claimed that rainbows are lies and puppies never shut up.

Gracious, what colour is the sky in your world?

That just means I hate rainbows and puppies, doesn't it? I don't live for rainbows and puppies.
Besides, that bit was sarcasm.

[Person012345]

Of course I do, and there are plenty of people that aren't. I never said I hated my life.

But....you just claimed that rainbows are lies and puppies never shut up.

Gracious, what colour is the sky in your world?

For me it's currently black. Black as the human heart.

[Suidwes-Afrika]

But....you just claimed that rainbows are lies and puppies never shut up.

Gracious, what colour is the sky in your world?

For me it's currently black. Black as the human heart.

Don't you mean black as human nature? Not all humans have completely black hearts, you know, but nature is something else entirely.

My own sky, I believe, happens to be olive, with streaks of crimson.

[Person012345]

For me it's currently black. Black as the human heart.

Don't you mean black as human nature? Not all humans have completely black hearts, you know, but nature is something else entirely.

My own sky, I believe, happens to be olive, with streaks of crimson.

I mean as black as the human soul.

[The Parkus Empire]

There is no God.

You say that now.

[South Asia Minor]

There is no God.

You say that now.

If God's up there he's in a cold dark room
The heavenly host are just the cold dark moons
He bent down and made the world in seven days
And ever since he's been a' walking away
Mixing with nitrogen in lonely holes
Where neither seraphim or raindrops go
I see an old man wandering the halls alone
Only a full house gonna make a home

...

A singularity at the bottom of a black hole in a universe far apart from our own is what I call God. An entity separate from causality.

[Great Nepal]

Frankly if millions have to starve for my current living standred, which isn't that great compared to the majorty of the country, I'm fine with that. Why should I care?

In addition to what CM said, basic human decency? That attitude is actually as bad as if you were torturing someone by starving them yourself.

No, not really.
Torturing someone results their suffering from your action whereas not caring about starving people results suffering due to your inaction.
Committing a murder is totally different to not helping a guy dying.

Why do you deserve to have a high standard of living directly due to the suffering of others?

Because he can?

[Person012345]

In addition to what CM said, basic human decency? That attitude is actually as bad as if you were torturing someone by starving them yourself.

No, not really.
Torturing someone results their suffering from your action whereas not caring about starving people results suffering due to your inaction.
Committing a murder is totally different to not helping a guy dying.

Not acting =/= not caring. As I said, there's a big difference between putting it out of your mind because you have to function and outright not caring.

Why do you deserve to have a high standard of living directly due to the suffering of others?

Because he can?

Can =/= deserve to. I could kill someone, doesn't mean it's morally ok.

[Celritannia]

Blame society, not life.

[Beldonia]

Nobody ever guaranteed that life would be fair. In fact, they guaranteed that life would be unfair. That's the way things are--you can blame science, human nature, luck and a ton of other things.

[The Parkus Empire]

If God's up there he's in a cold dark room
The heavenly host are just the cold dark moons
He bent down and made the world in seven days
And ever since he's been a' walking away
Mixing with nitrogen in lonely holes
Where neither seraphim or raindrops go
I see an old man wandering the halls alone
Only a full house gonna make a home

...

Leaving me to doubt
All about God and his mercy
for if he truly does exist
Why did he desert me
In my hour of need?
I truly am indeed
Alone again, naturally.

A singularity at the bottom of a black hole in a universe far apart from our own is what I call God. An entity separate from causality.

Oooh.

[Great Nepal]

Not acting =/= not caring. As I said, there's a big difference between putting it out of your mind because you have to function and outright not caring.

So, if I dont care if a beggar is starving to death; it is equal to me putting a knife through him?

Can =/= deserve to. I could kill someone, doesn't mean it's morally ok.

If you can and wish to - then it is fine as well... provided you can do it properly.