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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:10 pm

United Gackle wrote:
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youll be happy to know that that is bullshit.

since you made the claim ill be happy to have you PROVE the tripled debt, moe golf,. failed healthcare, big fine thing.

im sure you will be much less grumpy when you find that there is no evidence for any of it.

Well if you don't know that the debt has been tripled, and my guess is you never even LOOKED at the failure health care law, and listen to CNN not to mention google it that obama HAS played more gulf than any president in history Ohh and also showed a Military base to the Chinese which is a big fucking NO to show it to anyone ONLY exceptions are British, Canadian, and Close allies

Edit : Get out of ur mothers basement already

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saying it isnt proof.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:11 pm

Minoriteeburg wrote:I don't think that the tea party is destroying the US, but they sure are destroying the Republican Party. And I like it.

my sister has a theory that the tea party is someone's scheme to destroy the republican party. i dont believe it myself but she is pretty convinced.
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Postby Intangelon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:12 pm

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Postby Xomic » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:12 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Minoriteeburg wrote:I don't think that the tea party is destroying the US, but they sure are destroying the Republican Party. And I like it.

my sister has a theory that the tea party is someone's scheme to destroy the republican party. i dont believe it myself but she is pretty convinced.


That someone is Obama.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:13 pm

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Ashmoria wrote:my sister has a theory that the tea party is someone's scheme to destroy the republican party. i dont believe it myself but she is pretty convinced.


That someone is Obama.

you think that obama created the tea party in order to destroy the republicans?

the man is a GENIUS.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:13 pm

United Gackle wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
youll be happy to know that that is bullshit.

since you made the claim ill be happy to have you PROVE the tripled debt, moe golf,. failed healthcare, big fine thing.

im sure you will be much less grumpy when you find that there is no evidence for any of it.

Well if you don't know that the debt has been tripled, and my guess is you never even LOOKED at the failure health care law, and listen to CNN not to mention google it that obama HAS played more gulf than any president in history Ohh and also showed a Military base to the Chinese which is a big fucking NO to show it to anyone ONLY exceptions are British, Canadian, and Close allies


Source is in order for these rather baseless claims.

Edit : Get out of ur mothers basement already


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Postby Revolutopia » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:13 pm

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The Debt issue and healthcare has already been addressed above so ignoring that, and who cares if plays golf so has quite a bit of presidents also Bush still beats him on vacation time anyway comparatively. Where did Obama show a military base and prove that this something completely new and has never been done before


You are right it does help when you are able to retroactively change the reason for the war as often as you like as demonstrated by Bush and company.

Actually Bush didn't beat him in Vacation time btw Just al il heads up is all and he at least done a hell of alot better job than Obama NTO TO MENTION I figured EVERYONE already knew about Obama tripling Debt


Yes Bush has beaten him in vacationing, as Obama has only spent 61 days while Bush spent 180 and Reagan 112 three years into their terms. Also it has ready been addressed that your debt statement is wrong
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Postby Faith Hope Charity » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:14 pm

Ya.. cuz Obama is just that powerful... :palm:
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Postby New Periodspace » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:14 pm

Techocracy101010 wrote:Recently I have gotten the feeling that the far right is trying to wreak the USA I mean they started 2 wars in the middle east over non existent WMDs ( nuclear weapons ) they deregulated the bank . And got us down graded to a double AA rating . Because of their refusal to allow for increases in government revenue. Their stupidity never ceases to amaze me. I have been called a gun hating liberal( I belong to a rifle club) I have been told I hate freedom ( yes that Is why I am against the patriot act. Because I totally want to be wire tapped) . I have been told that I like terrorist ( one of my best friends dad died in 9/11 ) .
I mean the conservative party seems to have lost it's freaking mind even if a democrat suggest a plan that the conservatives suggested years earlier they won't agree . Think about the danger that this insanity poses to all of us . It could lead to Americas down fall.
This type of thinking that the right embraces is insanity . Which is harmful to all.

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Postby Vespid » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:38 pm

The whole country is in both a political and economic clusterfuck. The political climate is nothing short of abysmal and will continue to get worse until the economy gets back on its feet, but at the rate we're going that's not going to be anytime soon. No one is taking responsibility for what's happening and that's pissing pissing people off.

But onto the Tea party. Yes they are indirectly destroying the country. I like to believe that lower taxes and limiting government regulations would help but we tried that and it blew up into a spectacular fire ball. Now we're being told that we should hope that the trickle down effect will help. This is the same exact crap they spewed during the Great Depression and now they're trying it again and it won't work, it never has worked and it never will work.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:45 pm

Vespid wrote:The whole country is in both a political and economic clusterfuck. The political climate is nothing short of abysmal and will continue to get worse until the economy gets back on its feet, but at the rate we're going that's not going to be anytime soon. No one is taking responsibility for what's happening and that's pissing pissing people off.

But onto the Tea party. Yes they are indirectly destroying the country. I like to believe that lower taxes and limiting government regulations would help but we tried that and it blew up into a spectacular fire ball. Now we're being told that we should hope that the trickle down effect will help. This is the same exact crap they spewed during the Great Depression and now they're trying it again and it won't work, it never has worked and it never will work.

the republicans have one agenda--lower taxes and fewer regulations.

no matter what the problem they will insist that doing these 2 things will fix it. so today its "jobs jobs jobs" so lowering taxes and getting rid of regulations MUST create jobs.

which is complete bullshit.

if the public was most concerned about global warming it would turn out that lower taxes and fewer regulations would cut our carbon emissions by 50%
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Postby Yulldoon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:49 pm

Spend less and pay more taxes, the two things that willl save the US. Spending cuts for the military or welfare, though preferably use the military as civil workers and conscript the ably unemployed.

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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:49 pm

Tea Party is a symptom it isn't the disease.
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Postby ZombieRothbard » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:50 pm

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Yeah, we would stop destroying their wealth through warfare, stop propping up dictators through foreign aid, and provide employment for foreign workers.


What is to prevent the rise of imperialism out of this, especially if the capitalist profit-driven system is to be maintained?


Warfare destroys wealth, it doesn't create it. If you eliminate the corporate welfare with the military industrial complex, it wouldn't be profitable to fight aggressive wars.
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Postby The Audi Group » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:52 pm

I Vote for Zombie Nixon :ugeek:

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The Audi Group wrote:I Vote for Zombie Nixon :ugeek:


The same Zombie Nixon that created the EPA that the Tea Party wants to destroy. Irony innit?
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Postby Siorafrica » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:04 pm

(sigh) I'll post it again. That conservatives are thick doesn't mean liberals are smart. Both parties are just incompetent,self serving partisans horrified at the notions of one nation politics and pragmatism.
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Postby Sibirsky » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:45 am

Revolutopia wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:He's not FOX's sole liberal. They have speakers on other shows. And Stossel has guests on his show to debate the issues. Which obviously has liberals on there. There is no debate if everyone says how great (or bad) something is in unison.


You must not watch that much Beck or Hannity, and guests are not the same thing as a host who is always on. CNN also had Chris Tucker, and MSNBC Joe Scarbourgh so else does Fox have for true red-blooded liberal, Alan Colmes?.

I don't watch Beck or Hannity at all. Alan Colmes is one of them. There are others. I don't know their names, I don't watch enough of it to remember them.

Also, as I don't watch mainstream news or Buchanan I don't know if he denies the Holocaust on the air, but as much as I know he has never been to shy on that or his other extreme conservative views that would be in disagreement with Liberal ideals. So why is that not also open minded.

I said more open minded. I didn't say they weren't. I mean really, they go to church and submit to god and whatever, then put a guy who wants to legalize kiddie porn on the air. That's drastic. You have to admit.

Additionally, you know if ABC had allowed Stossel say his views on Kiddie Porn on their channel we would have listen to weeks and weeks of condemnation of "liberal" media and its attacks on children by Conservative politicians nonstop.

No doubt. But are you suggesting Stossel left because of this one issue? That's silly. There's more to it than that.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:56 am

Sibirsky wrote:I said more open minded. I didn't say they weren't. I mean really, they go to church and submit to god and whatever, then put a guy who wants to legalize kiddie porn on the air. That's drastic. You have to admit.

did you provide a link on john stossel supporting legalizing the ownership of child porn? im having a hard time finding anything about it.
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Postby Misterfisher minions » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:11 am

[quote="Techocracy101010";p="6918558"]Recently I have gotten the feeling that the far right is trying to wreak the USA I mean they started 2 wars in the middle east over non existent WMDs ( nuclear weapons ) they deregulated the bank . [quote]

Come on! are you using the word far right to qualify the tea party? The american far right are the White Supremacists. The tea party just want to stop the Government power grab. The 2 wars in the middle east were triggered by the neo-conservatives and there are no Neo-Cons in the Tea Party. The Banks are the most government regulated companies in the capitalist system, if you wanna see a deregulated and an unconstitutional bank, just watch the Goddamm FED! The Tea Party is an organization of courageous patriots who don't want their country to turn into a Statist piece of crap ( just like my country, France ).
The project of the founding fathers was to build a great nation with a limited government and responsible citizens, their will was noble, why not to respect that?
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Postby Sibirsky » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:14 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:I said more open minded. I didn't say they weren't. I mean really, they go to church and submit to god and whatever, then put a guy who wants to legalize kiddie porn on the air. That's drastic. You have to admit.

did you provide a link on john stossel supporting legalizing the ownership of child porn? im having a hard time finding anything about it.

It's in his show about sex, I think. Give me at least an hour to find it.
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Postby Zwitterjiund » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:16 am

I thought the tea party was a good thing. Until I found out they were an american right wing political group and not an actual tea party

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Postby Realisim » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:23 am

Yes,

Obviously the tea party is responsible for 4 trillion in debt additions in a three year span, involvement in another war against an Islamic banana republic, and arming drug cartels with weaponry that isn't monitored.

I dont get how the tea party is the target of all this liberal angst, they might be the cause of a less polarized America, some of them are complete wing-bats, but to assume that wing-bats only exist within the tea party is ludicrous.... as wing-bats exist in both political spectrum.
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Postby Sibirsky » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:27 am

Realisim wrote:Yes,

Obviously the tea party is responsible for 4 trillion in debt additions in a three year span, involvement in another war against an Islamic banana republic, and arming drug cartels with weaponry that isn't monitored.

I dont get how the tea party is the target of all this liberal angst, they might be the cause of a less polarized America, some of them are complete wing-bats, but to assume that wing-bats only exist within the tea party is ludicrous.... as wing-bats exist in both political spectrum.
Personally I am sick of the established government, I think a loss of political power by both parties would benefit America immensely.

The liberals and republicans are led by wing-bats.
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they have already destroyed the republican party

Postby California Terra Prime » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:31 am

This "tea party" group is the same recycled crap we've seen since the early 80's, but now with corporate funded whitewashing and an ignorant and incompetent mass media to unwittingly (or in the case of fox noize, proudly) promote their garbage agenda.

well, the guys who pull all the money strings for the tea party (Koch bros.) have a platform that calls for abolishment of (IRS, Income taxes, CIA, FBI, Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance, Public schools, EPA, Dept of Energy, Office of mineral management, Office of occupational health and safety, Dept of agriculture, and others. Much of this is officially on the tea party agenda, but all of it is unofficially. The party combines the push for laissez faire economics (which failed utterly in the 1920's, and were the influence behind the deregulation push in banking over the last few decades that resulted in the SECOND great crash and economic implosion in the last 100 years) with extreme right wing christian views in social matters.

As far as I'm concerned, they (in various forms over the years) slowly destroyed the republican party over the last 20-30 years and they have already done great damage to the nation (and most of the people who vote for them are foolishly voting for a slick corporate funded sham that is very much against their own interests, easily led by ringmasters who scream "communist!" at everything that the corporate donors don't like, which is something they learned from the John Birch Society (nutjobs to the extreme) who the Koch's have affiliations to and who have also recently been welcomed back into republican politics since the tea party takeover after having been exiled since the mid 1960s.

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