Would you kill kill an intruder?

[Death to the Outsiders]

How do you kill kill someone?

Kill them.
Use Phoenix Down.
Kill them again.

Epic!!!!

[The Germania Space Corps]

Ha, I'd blow his brains out, I don't give a fuck who he is or where he's from.

I don't care about underlying mental issues or a poor background, you can, and may I add no matter what, get help and earn an honest living.

If you break into my house, I'd warn you to drop whatever you have on you, and leave. You break into my house armed, I'm going to make sure you don't walk out alive.

[Robert Magoo]

Not at all, actually. I don't think I could bring myself to kill someone in cold blood, I really don't. The concept of doing so sickens me. But what I'm saying is that if someone tries to kill you, there's a moral disconnect there that would allow you to kill him and subsequently sleep at night. At least that's my theory on the matter.

Murder is murder even with the State's sanction. I agree with you that protection of yourself necessitates decisive action that will lead to someone dying. But I hesitate to proclaim that I'd be able to sleep at night. It's b/c I'm so religious, actually. B/c murder is the destruction of the image of God. Even killing in defense of God, were that possible, would be repulsive to me. Honestly, I cannot, b/c of my faith and my political orientation, look at the military industrial or the security industrial complex and NOT recoil in utter disgust at every facet of their logic. Including the sociopathic insistence that murder is not murder when the State does it, or when it's in self-defense.

I don't know that I'd call self-defense murder, but yeah, it still may haunt a person for a while after having to do it. I'm sure it would be hard on me. But I don't think I'd consider it to be wrong if it's the only option you have left...

[Cenetra]

God, so many ITGs in this thread...

[UCUMAY]

I wouldn't second guess it. If someone is in my house with a weapon, and without permission... They would be deader than a door knob.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Ha, I'd blow his brains out, I don't give a fuck who he is or where he's from.

I don't care about underlying mental issues or a poor background, you can, and may I add no matter what, get help and earn an honest living.

If you break into my house, I'd warn you to drop whatever you have on you, and leave. You break into my house armed, I'm going to make sure you don't walk out alive.

lol itg

[Mini Miehm]

The gov't doesn't own my property. I do. On my property, rights exist for those I invite. I have said this to an officer when he came on my property while I was on my front porch with a rifle. I reminded him that he was on private land and he'd need a warrant to park in my driveway. He was curious about why I was on my porch with a rifle when he drove by and merely wanted to ask me about it. I made him back out of my drive before I'd speak to him. I did leave the rifle on the porch and I walked to the street to discuss it. He was a nice guy. We've had beers together since then. He's a statist, but he's alright in my book. Puts Georgia first, which is what I like.

*note* I had my rifle outside b/c I had seen a coyote in my yard the day before. My puppy Pit Bull needed to run a bit so I sat out with her. Not about to let my dog get eaten.

You may own your property, but the laws of the nation where that property is located still apply in your property.
And that police was there to help you, I could never say anything negative to a police officer. They're here to protect us and you threatened him? You should be ashamed!
Also, you seem like a generic gun-wielding southerner, no offence. People like you are the reason why I want to ban all guns

All right... I've come in to this rather late in the gaem, and I'm not really going to be bothered to read through thirty nine pages to see if anyone brought this up yet or not, but you seem to be operating under a dangerous misconception, and that is this....

The police are your friends and are here to protect you. To an extent this is true. Unfortunately for you, police aren't required to protect you. Say it ain't so Batman!

The police exist to protect the community. Multiple courts have ruled that the police have no obligation to protect any given individual or group of individuals. If you tell them that someone has threatened to kill you, there isn't much they can do about it until someone TRIES to kill you, and they WILL NOT assign you protection to keep it from happening. They will not stop peo0ple from breaking in to your home. Hell, by the time the police arrive, you're a statistic(of course, in my version, by the time the polie arrive, the OTHER guy is a statistic, but life's a bitch).

Banning guns has not been shown to reduce violent crime significantly. It MAY(and I'm being disgustingly generous with that MAY) reduce gun crime, but there's not much proof of that either. So, while you try to reason with the man who is stabbing you and raping your husband/wife/daughter/samesexlifepartner/dog/homeappliances/etc., I will be dumping a load of buckshot into his chest and asking why he was in my living room, moving my shit and carrying a knife once I'm certain of my safety.

And that's another thing... If a man enters my house with a weapon, he has done so with the intent to rob me of my property, and the WILLINGNESS to rob me of my life. If he wasn't willing to use it, he would not have brought it. I am under no obligation to die so that he can have my 52" plasma. I will fight, with any weapon at my disposal, and die if need be, to protect my family from someone whose very PRESENCE IN MY HOME is a declaration of their willingness to do me harm.

[Lessnt]

Ha, I'd blow his brains out, I don't give a fuck who he is or where he's from.

I don't care about underlying mental issues or a poor background, you can, and may I add no matter what, get help and earn an honest living.

If you break into my house, I'd warn you to drop whatever you have on you, and leave. You break into my house armed, I'm going to make sure you don't walk out alive.

lol itg

Whats itg?

[Keronians]

It's absurd for me, a Spaniard and an underage one at that, to have a gun.

Unless my father wasn't in the house, and my mother and brother were in danger, I'd probably hide it out.

If my mother and brother were in danger, then I'd probably try and take action to protect them, even if it meant getting injured myself.

[Southern Patriots]

God, so many ITGs in this thread...

[Germania Alliance]

Ha, I'd blow his brains out, I don't give a fuck who he is or where he's from.

I don't care about underlying mental issues or a poor background, you can, and may I add no matter what, get help and earn an honest living.

If you break into my house, I'd warn you to drop whatever you have on you, and leave. You break into my house armed, I'm going to make sure you don't walk out alive.

lol itg

Problem?

[Keronians]

lol itg

Whats itg?

Internet Tough Guy.

I would probably, if I had a gun, try and wound him.

But since that's not ever going to be the case for me, I'd probably hide somewhere and call the police.

Unless my mother and my brother were in danger and my father wasn't at home. In that case, I'd probably try and do whatever I can to neutralise the threat.

[Salvarity]

i would shoot to kill and shoot some more to make sure. He trying to jack my stuff. Go jack someone who isn't armed.

[Jeffeyyah]

I'd shoot at the dude until he drops. Then I'll concern if he's alive or not.

[Mini Miehm]

It's absurd for me, a Spaniard and an underage one at that, to have a gun.

Unless my father wasn't in the house, and my mother and brother were in danger, I'd probably hide it out.

If my mother and brother were in danger, then I'd probably try and take action to protect them, even if it meant getting injured myself.

What exactly does your being a Spaniard have to do with the absurdity of owning a gun? Just curious. Any national laws notwithstanding, what facet of "Spaniard"="Cannot into Gun"?

And, what does your father being at home have to do with it either? Just because he's older than you doesn't mean that you aren't obligated to attempt to protect your home from scum like is being hypothesized here.

[Keronians]

It's absurd for me, a Spaniard and an underage one at that, to have a gun.

Unless my father wasn't in the house, and my mother and brother were in danger, I'd probably hide it out.

If my mother and brother were in danger, then I'd probably try and take action to protect them, even if it meant getting injured myself.

What exactly does your being a Spaniard have to do with the absurdity of owning a gun? Just curious. Any national laws notwithstanding, what facet of "Spaniard"="Cannot into Gun"?

And, what does your father being at home have to do with it either? Just because he's older than you doesn't mean that you aren't obligated to attempt to protect your home from scum like is being hypothesized here.

Well, the national laws are what are in the way...

My father is stronger than me. And would probably tell me to hide. And the only possible reason I might to do that is to take my mother and brother out of the house.

I'd likely then call the police, and then, most likely, go back into the house to help my father.

[Mini Miehm]

What exactly does your being a Spaniard have to do with the absurdity of owning a gun? Just curious. Any national laws notwithstanding, what facet of "Spaniard"="Cannot into Gun"?

And, what does your father being at home have to do with it either? Just because he's older than you doesn't mean that you aren't obligated to attempt to protect your home from scum like is being hypothesized here.

Well, the national laws are what are in the way...

My father is stronger than me. And would probably tell me to hide. And the only possible reason I might to do that is to take my mother and brother out of the house.

I'd likely then call the police, and then, most likely, go back into the house to help my father.

I find these reasons to be worthy(mostly). Protecting your family should certainly come first. I'm not sure that being weaker than anyone would necessary invalidate fighting(or attempting to anyway) off an intruder with willingness to do you harm. You have a moral obligation to not let yourself become a victim, fulfill it.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Whats itg?

Internet Tough Guy.

I would probably, if I had a gun, try and wound him.

But since that's not ever going to be the case for me, I'd probably hide somewhere and call the police.

Unless my mother and my brother were in danger and my father wasn't at home. In that case, I'd probably try and do whatever I can to neutralise the threat.

With a gun, there is no such thing as wound.

[Keronians]

Well, the national laws are what are in the way...

My father is stronger than me. And would probably tell me to hide. And the only possible reason I might to do that is to take my mother and brother out of the house.

I'd likely then call the police, and then, most likely, go back into the house to help my father.

I find these reasons to be worthy(mostly). Protecting your family should certainly come first. I'm not sure that being weaker than anyone would necessary invalidate fighting(or attempting to anyway) off an intruder with willingness to do you harm. You have a moral obligation to not let yourself become a victim, fulfill it.

Like I said, most probably, I would do that.

Though, again, if I was alone in the house, I would not needlessly risk my life. I would hide, call the police, and wait.

[Biop]

Hot Damn, 2 hours and 20 pages. What did i miss?

[Biop]

Hot Damn, 2 hours and 20 pages. What did i miss?

[Mini Miehm]

Internet Tough Guy.

I would probably, if I had a gun, try and wound him.

But since that's not ever going to be the case for me, I'd probably hide somewhere and call the police.

Unless my mother and my brother were in danger and my father wasn't at home. In that case, I'd probably try and do whatever I can to neutralise the threat.

With a gun, there is no such thing as wound.

Shotgun is best gun.

Low chance of overpenetration, even within your home(room to room), and a high chance of delivering a significant injury capable of stopping an assault before it properly begins.

Don't just shoot to kill. Shoot to disembowel./sagenods

[Biop]

With a gun, there is no such thing as wound.

Shotgun is best gun.

Low chance of overpenetration, even within your home(room to room), and a high chance of delivering a significant injury capable of stopping an assault before it properly begins.

Don't just shoot to kill. Shoot to disembowel./sagenods

Shotguns are good if you just rack it, it should scare them off, If not, You aim for center of mass, not an arm or leg, you Will miss even with buckshot. You dont shoot to wound, you shoot to kill

[Mini Miehm]

Shotgun is best gun.

Low chance of overpenetration, even within your home(room to room), and a high chance of delivering a significant injury capable of stopping an assault before it properly begins.

Don't just shoot to kill. Shoot to disembowel./sagenods

Shotguns are good if you just rack it, it should scare them off, If not, You aim for center of mass, not an arm or leg, you Will miss even with buckshot. You dont shoot to wound, you shoot to kill

Didn't I just say that?

[Lessnt]

Shotgun is best gun.

Low chance of overpenetration, even within your home(room to room), and a high chance of delivering a significant injury capable of stopping an assault before it properly begins.

Don't just shoot to kill. Shoot to disembowel./sagenods

Shotguns are good if you just rack it, it should scare them off, If not, You aim for center of mass, not an arm or leg, you Will miss even with buckshot. You dont shoot to wound, you shoot to kill

Depends on how close.
Within 20 feet buckshot wont make a very big spread.The size on a dollar coin maybe.