Would you kill kill an intruder?

[Arumdaum]

I would never find it within myself to kill another human being.

Even if he was killing you?

If they were killing me, I'd probably try to kill them too.

But if someone was intruding my house, I wouldn't kill them.

Which reminds me, you should go on chat.

[Kreanoltha]

You aren't in any danger unless you break into my home.

You hold human life cheap. You're more likely to get in some sort of gunfight that puts me in jeopardy. Moreover, you're more likely to kill me over some perceived slight.

Again, you're not in any sort of danger at all unless you're breaking into my home stealing my stuff. Any shots I fire will have a handy human-bullet catcher.

[Separatist Peoples]

Again. Home defense is always self-defense unless perp has bullet holes in his back. You will not get arrested if the dude is lying in front of you with a bunch of bullet holes in his chest and a knife in his hand.

What if the person was walking backwards after surrendering?

Hard to prove. In that case, the shooter is going to look pretty good.

[Des-Bal]

That's what crime scene investigators are for. They may not have access to magical TV technology, but they could take the question of your word vs the dead guy out of the picture.

They can only establish a rough idea of what happened, it will be clear that he was there to rob you and that you shot him. Unless there's something big like evidence that he was outside when you shot him they won't be able to tell much.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Dude.

You get arrested.

You get to spend a few nights in jail until the police compile evidence for a court case.

Then you get your gun back and go to court, and get to prove you shot someone in self-defence.

FFS.

Again. Home defense is always self-defense unless perp has bullet holes in his back. You will not get arrested if the dude is lying in front of you with a bunch of bullet holes in his chest and a knife in his hand.

You will get arrested.

100%.

Your best bet is to call your lawyer before you call 9/11, otherwise bad shit will go down and you will end up paying out the ass for legal fees. A shitton of money.

Killing someone is serious shit. It costs you more money than someone hauling your shit away in a sedan could do, and you get to go to jail, and you also get to get sued by the family in a civil court.

[Lessnt]

You hold human life cheap. You're more likely to get in some sort of gunfight that puts me in jeopardy. Moreover, you're more likely to kill me over some perceived slight.

Again, you're not in any sort of danger at all unless you're breaking into my home stealing my stuff. Any shots I fire will have a handy human-bullet catcher.

At the moment human life is quite cheap to me.
I do not own a gun though.

[Ifreann]

Why in the name Zeus would you let a thief walk out the door if he was no longer a threat? This POS poor excuse drain on O2 levels has already proven he has the capacity to break the law by illegally gaining entrance to a dwelling let alone trespass on private property. By allowing the perp to escape will only embolden him to move on to his next intended victim, congratulations you just allowed your neighbor to get robbed or worse killed all because you couldn't be bothered with either killing the perp or detaining him.

I'm supposed to feel guilty because I didn't kill someone?

...

Yeah, not feeling it.

If you don't kill someone who has committed a non-violent crime, then you're basically a murderer. *nods*

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Again, you're not in any sort of danger at all unless you're breaking into my home stealing my stuff. Any shots I fire will have a handy human-bullet catcher.

At the moment human life is quite cheap to me.
I do not own a gun though.

That's probably for the best.

[Des-Bal]

You will get arrested.

100%.

Your best bet is to call your lawyer before you call 9/11, otherwise bad shit will go down and you will end up paying out the ass for legal fees. A shitton of money.

Killing someone is serious shit. It costs you more money than someone hauling your shit away in a sedan could do, and you get to go to jail, and you also get to get sued by the family in a civil court.

People keep coming back to the families suing you, if the family sues for wrongful death they don't have a leg to stand on. By shooting the person outlined in the OP you fulfilled all of your obligations to that intruder.

[Norstal]

What if the person was walking backwards after surrendering?

Hard to prove. In that case, the shooter is going to look pretty good.

It could be if the distance to the perp's weapon and the body doesn't match. Or if the body falls sideways (as the person tries to turn around). Lots of possibilities. These black-and-white laws seems pretty asinine to me.

[Kreanoltha]

Again. Home defense is always self-defense unless perp has bullet holes in his back. You will not get arrested if the dude is lying in front of you with a bunch of bullet holes in his chest and a knife in his hand.

You will get arrested.

100%.

Your best bet is to call your lawyer before you call 9/11, otherwise bad shit will go down and you will end up paying out the ass for legal fees. A shitton of money.

Killing someone is serious shit. It costs you more money than someone hauling your shit away in a sedan could do, and you get to go to jail, and you also get to get sued by the family in a civil court.

You will not get arrested!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not some authoritarian hell hole. Homedefence is assumed to be selfdefence. If the guys is holding any sort of weapon and there are bullet holes in the front and exit holes in the back it is selfdefence. You don't fucking got to jail!!!

[Lessnt]

At the moment human life is quite cheap to me.
I do not own a gun though.

That's probably for the best.

As far as I can tell I CAN own one though.

[Valrez]

At the moment human life is quite cheap to me.
I do not own a gun though.

That's probably for the best.

Not if someone breaks in his house.....

[Godular]

Again. Home defense is always self-defense unless perp has bullet holes in his back. You will not get arrested if the dude is lying in front of you with a bunch of bullet holes in his chest and a knife in his hand.

You will get arrested.

100%.

Your best bet is to call your lawyer before you call 9/11, otherwise bad shit will go down and you will end up paying out the ass for legal fees. A shitton of money.

Killing someone is serious shit. It costs you more money than someone hauling your shit away in a sedan could do, and you get to go to jail, and you also get to get sued by the family in a civil court.

No. you will not get arrested. You will be seen to have acted in self defense and the cops will at least/most/etc have you fill out a statement. And I already said earlier that if you have to shoot the man down the next person you need to call is the lawyer in advance for when the perp's family tries to grub money off of ya.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

How do you kill kill someone?

[Des-Bal]

At the moment human life is quite cheap to me.
I do not own a gun though.

You won't be saying that when your looking some mothers son in the eye and trying to see him as a threat instead of a person.

[Ifreann]

That's what crime scene investigators are for. They may not have access to magical TV technology, but they could take the question of your word vs the dead guy out of the picture.

They can only establish a rough idea of what happened, it will be clear that he was there to rob you and that you shot him. Unless there's something big like evidence that he was outside when you shot him they won't be able to tell much.

And a rough idea might be enough to show he wasn't a threat. I expect it would depend highly on the circumstances.

[Lessnt]

How do you kill kill someone?

You find a way to permanently stop their bodily functions that is needed for life.

[Geniasis]

How do you kill kill someone?

Well, when a target and a bullet love each other very much...

[Norstal]

How do you kill kill someone?

You find a way to permanently stop their bodily functions that is needed for life.

You can't kill a killed person.

[Lessnt]

At the moment human life is quite cheap to me.
I do not own a gun though.

You won't be saying that when your looking some mothers son in the eye and trying to see him as a threat instead of a person.

Depends on my mood.
I am quite coldblooded sometimes.

[Kreanoltha]

At the moment human life is quite cheap to me.
I do not own a gun though.

You won't be saying that when your looking some mothers son in the eye and trying to see him as a threat instead of a person.

Actually, that is exactly what I and any other rational person will do. We see a threat. We stop the threat. If that means killing it then so be it.

[Ifreann]

How do you kill kill someone?

Kill them.
Use Phoenix Down.
Kill them again.

[Separatist Peoples]

At the moment human life is quite cheap to me.
I do not own a gun though.

You won't be saying that when your looking some mothers son in the eye and trying to see him as a threat instead of a person.

That wouldn't bother me in the least.

[Lessnt]

You find a way to permanently stop their bodily functions that is needed for life.

You can't kill a killed person.

You turn them into ashes so they are no longer a person.