Would you kill kill an intruder?

[Geniasis]

And if I call, he might try and wait for an opening. All the safer to just not have him in the proximity at all.

If ya have a clear bead out the door, put a round in the lawn if you're paranoid about not being able to call police with a potential threat on the floor. Pretty damn sure it'll wake somebody up.

In my neighborhood? Probably not.

Keeping him there is neither worth the trouble or the risk. Additionally, if I let him now that I am calling the police--or better, that I already had before confronting him--he should be easily convinced that getting the hell out of dodge is better than trying to start something.

[Cenetra]

Step 1: "Drop the knife and put your hands up or I'll kill you."

Step 2: If intruder complies and a phone is handy, slide phone over and make intruder call police. If intruder complies but a phone is not handy, force intruder to leave. If intruder does not comply, shoot at legs and lower torso (death is possible, severe injury likely, but it is possible for victim to survive with medical attention). If intruder does not surrender, shoot at head and upper torso (severe injury almost certain, death likely).

Step 3: In case 1, wait for police to arrive. In case 2, call police. In cases 3 and 4, call police and ambulance as soon as possible.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

I can't wait until someone sues you for murder...

Again: it is legal to shoot intruders. You won't get sued or arrested for anything.

Wrong.

You will get arrested and go spend a few nights in prison.

[Godular]

A neighborhood with a lot of cops and pit bulls that bark like crazy at the slightest stimulus.

[Separatist Peoples]

Again: it is legal to shoot intruders. You won't get sued or arrested for anything.

Wrong.

You will get arrested and go spend a few nights in prison.

Your mistaken. You can shoot an intruder and not spend a day in jail. A couple days in court, perhaps, but not a day in jail.

[Geniasis]

A neighborhood with a lot of cops and pit bulls that bark like crazy at the slightest stimulus.

So, not the one that I actually live in, then?

[Godular]

If ya have a clear bead out the door, put a round in the lawn if you're paranoid about not being able to call police with a potential threat on the floor. Pretty damn sure it'll wake somebody up.

In my neighborhood? Probably not.

Keeping him there is neither worth the trouble or the risk. Additionally, if I let him now that I am calling the police--or better, that I already had before confronting him--he should be easily convinced that getting the hell out of dodge is better than trying to start something.

If he knows you've already called the cops and surrenders, then he's consigned to his fate. If he just up and runs, see previous answers.

[The Parkus Empire]

No, but you can be pretty certain that your bullet could reach him before he pulled anything, and similarly certain that he knew this.

Unless he had a hidden gun.
And he thought he was sly and could pull it out and kill me before I could hit him.

If he's being sly, then he wouldn't be acting in the, "Oh shit, there's a gun in face," moment.

[Godular]

A neighborhood with a lot of cops and pit bulls that bark like crazy at the slightest stimulus.

So, not the one that I actually live in, then?

No, but you've already mentioned that you have other people in your house as well. I believe you mentioned having a younger brother? 911 is an easy number to call.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Step 1: "Drop the knife and put your hands up or I'll kill you."

Step 2: If intruder complies and a phone is handy, slide phone over and make intruder call police. If intruder complies but a phone is not handy, force intruder to leave. If intruder does not comply, shoot at legs and lower torso (death is possible, severe injury likely, but it is possible for victim to survive with medical attention). If intruder does not surrender, shoot at head and upper torso (severe injury almost certain, death likely).

Step 3: In case 1, wait for police to arrive. In case 2, call police. In cases 3 and 4, call police and ambulance as soon as possible.

Shooting at the legs will easily cause damage to the femoral artery. Congratulations, you just killed him in <2 minutes. And shooting at the stomach can cause septic infection, and is a lot harder to treat than any other gunshot injury tbh.

Anyone who says they're aiming to wound is an idiot.

The ambulance would arrive to find a person riddled with bullet holes and dead, and you'd get arrested.

[Ifreann]

If ya have a clear bead out the door, put a round in the lawn if you're paranoid about not being able to call police with a potential threat on the floor. Pretty damn sure it'll wake somebody up, and a bullet don't ricochet off dirt.

Where do you live that gunshots in the middle of the night bother people?

Where do you live that they don't?

[Kreanoltha]

Any burglar that concerned about his face being seen, wears a fucking mask.

Suffice it to say, you would shoot people without decent justification, and I'd safer living next door to a burglar than to you.

Please refer to:

The defendant: I saw a man in my home at night whom I did not recognize. He appeared to be armed, and he was rummaging threw my belongings. I shot him.

It has been proven to be justified.

Wrong.

You will get arrested and go spend a few nights in prison.

Again, according to castle laws as long as it is justified you don't go to prison.

[Norstal]

Any burglar that concerned about his face being seen, wears a fucking mask.

Suffice it to say, you would shoot people without decent justification, and I'd safer living next door to a burglar than to you.

Please refer to:

The defendant: I saw a man in my home at night whom I did not recognize. He appeared to be armed, and he was rummaging threw my belongings. I shot him.

It has been proven to be justified.

That'd be a pretty stupid justice system where the court just takes a person's word for it.

[Ifreann]

Step 1: "Drop the knife and put your hands up or I'll kill you."

Step 2: If intruder complies and a phone is handy, slide phone over and make intruder call police. If intruder complies but a phone is not handy, force intruder to leave. If intruder does not comply, shoot at legs and lower torso (death is possible, severe injury likely, but it is possible for victim to survive with medical attention). If intruder does not surrender, shoot at head and upper torso (severe injury almost certain, death likely).

Step 3: In case 1, wait for police to arrive. In case 2, call police. In cases 3 and 4, call police and ambulance as soon as possible.

Wouldn't it make more sense to call the police before you confront the intruder?

[Separatist Peoples]

Step 1: "Drop the knife and put your hands up or I'll kill you."

Step 2: If intruder complies and a phone is handy, slide phone over and make intruder call police. If intruder complies but a phone is not handy, force intruder to leave. If intruder does not comply, shoot at legs and lower torso (death is possible, severe injury likely, but it is possible for victim to survive with medical attention). If intruder does not surrender, shoot at head and upper torso (severe injury almost certain, death likely).

Step 3: In case 1, wait for police to arrive. In case 2, call police. In cases 3 and 4, call police and ambulance as soon as possible.

Shooting at the legs will easily cause damage to the femoral artery. Congratulations, you just killed him in <2 minutes. And shooting at the stomach can cause septic infection, and is a lot harder to treat than any other gunshot injury tbh.

Anyone who says they're aiming to wound is an idiot.

The ambulance would arrive to find a person riddled with bullet holes and dead, and you'd get arrested.

You keep saying that, but if it was in self defense, then that is not the case. The police would determine that to be the case. If not, you'd go to jail, post bail, then prove it at the trial, but only if it didn't look like it was self defense (like shooting him in the back). Other then that, the police are pretty good about not arresting people for self defense killings.

[Kreanoltha]

Please refer to:

That'd be a pretty stupid justice system where the court just takes a person's word for it.

There would be an investigation, but it is justified according to law.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Any burglar that concerned about his face being seen, wears a fucking mask.

Suffice it to say, you would shoot people without decent justification, and I'd safer living next door to a burglar than to you.

Please refer to:

The defendant: I saw a man in my home at night whom I did not recognize. He appeared to be armed, and he was rummaging threw my belongings. I shot him.

It has been proven to be justified.

Wrong.

You will get arrested and go spend a few nights in prison.

Again, according to castle laws as long as it is justified you don't go to prison.

Yeah.

You'll get arrested, handcuffed, and taken to jail until court appearance. You shot someone.

Now you get to prove it was in self-defence.

Shooting at the legs will easily cause damage to the femoral artery. Congratulations, you just killed him in <2 minutes. And shooting at the stomach can cause septic infection, and is a lot harder to treat than any other gunshot injury tbh.

Anyone who says they're aiming to wound is an idiot.

The ambulance would arrive to find a person riddled with bullet holes and dead, and you'd get arrested.

You keep saying that, but if it was in self defense, then that is not the case. The police would determine that to be the case. If not, you'd go to jail, post bail, then prove it at the trial, but only if it didn't look like it was self defense (like shooting him in the back). Other then that, the police are pretty good about not arresting people for self defense killings.

Arrest != Conviction.

You'd get arrested. 100%.

[Des-Bal]

Please refer to:

That'd be a pretty stupid justice system where the court just takes a person's word for it.

Who can say otherwise? The guy who got shot during the commission of a crime? He's a losing combination of uncredible and dead.

[Lessnt]

Unless he had a hidden gun.
And he thought he was sly and could pull it out and kill me before I could hit him.

If he's being sly, then he wouldn't be acting in the, "Oh shit, there's a gun in face," moment.

unless he knew he was a damn fast shot.

[Godular]

Please refer to:





Again, according to castle laws as long as it is justified you don't go to prison.

Yeah.

You'll get arrested, handcuffed, and taken to jail until court appearance. You shot someone.

Now you get to prove it was in self-defence.

Home defense is always self-defense unless the perp has bullet holes in his back.

[Kreanoltha]

Step 1: "Drop the knife and put your hands up or I'll kill you."

Step 2: If intruder complies and a phone is handy, slide phone over and make intruder call police. If intruder complies but a phone is not handy, force intruder to leave. If intruder does not comply, shoot at legs and lower torso (death is possible, severe injury likely, but it is possible for victim to survive with medical attention). If intruder does not surrender, shoot at head and upper torso (severe injury almost certain, death likely).

Step 3: In case 1, wait for police to arrive. In case 2, call police. In cases 3 and 4, call police and ambulance as soon as possible.

Wouldn't it make more sense to call the police before you confront the intruder?

The intruder could hear you and kill you or speed up his robber and still be gone before the cops arrive. I have a hard time believing that you'd be cool with either option.

[Arumdaum]

I would never find it within myself to kill another human being.

[Geniasis]

No, but you've already mentioned that you have other people in your house as well.

At times. It's not uncommon for me to be in the house alone though. When I move into my apartment that will hardly be an issue.

I believe you mentioned having a younger brother?

I can't imagine having said that, since I don't have one.

911 is an easy number to call.

Aye. But the question is, how much can my attention be split before he feels confident in making a move? If I can have a dedicated person watching him, great. If not, don't take the chance.

[Separatist Peoples]

Please refer to:





Again, according to castle laws as long as it is justified you don't go to prison.

Yeah.

You'll get arrested, handcuffed, and taken to jail until court appearance. You shot someone.

Now you get to prove it was in self-defence.

You keep saying that, but if it was in self defense, then that is not the case. The police would determine that to be the case. If not, you'd go to jail, post bail, then prove it at the trial, but only if it didn't look like it was self defense (like shooting him in the back). Other then that, the police are pretty good about not arresting people for self defense killings.

Arrest != Conviction.

You'd get arrested. 100%.

No, if the police determine it to be a case of self defense, no charges are pressed. They do not immediately arrest you. They will investigate, for anywhere from hours to days. Unless the circumstances are highly suspect, you will not be detained.

[The Parkus Empire]

Any burglar that concerned about his face being seen, wears a fucking mask.

Suffice it to say, you would shoot people without decent justification, and I'd safer living next door to a burglar than to you.

Please refer to:

The defendant: I saw a man in my home at night whom I did not recognize. He appeared to be armed, and he was rummaging threw my belongings. I shot him.

It has been proven to be justified.

Wrong.

You will get arrested and go spend a few nights in prison.

Again, according to castle laws as long as it is justified you don't go to prison.

....

Is this supposed to change how I feel about preferring to live next to a burglar than to you?