By "no matter how far back you go", I meant in the span of Homo Sapiens existence, not to the origins of the Y-chromosome itself. Obviously there has been significant mutation of the Y-chromosome leading that far back.

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by Moronius » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:01 am


by Autash » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:08 am
Moronius wrote:The Weregerbil Horde wrote:I'm only half-related to my father, quarter-related to my paternal grandfather, etc ... and the haplogroups are distinctions on the tens of thousands of years scale. Assuming a generation length of 25 years, we're talking about an ancestor who contributes on the order of one ten-thousandth of one percent of my genetic heritage.
You misunderstand. The Y-chromosome rarely ever mutates, so all of your male-line ancestors will share a nearly identical Y-chromosome with you, meaning you are 2% identical to your forefathers no matter how far back you go.

by Seaforce » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:13 am
Dagnia wrote:Not a clue, where do I find out? Probably a ton of stuff, since I'm a total mutt.

by Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:18 am
Seaforce wrote:I'm into this stuff ... so I thought maybe those who know their Y-DNA haplogroup can share it here.
Mine is R1a1a1 (M417+)
For those who dont know whats a Y-DNA Haplogroup, here's a quick link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup

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by Jello Biafra » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:10 am

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by Mussoliniopoli » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:24 am

by Mussoliniopoli » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:25 am
Jello Biafra wrote:My father's father's father was from York, England, but I don't know more than that. R1b1a2 seems most likely.
This table may be interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_hapl ... nic_groups

by Forster Keys » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:39 am
Mussoliniopoli wrote:Jello Biafra wrote:My father's father's father was from York, England, but I don't know more than that. R1b1a2 seems most likely.
This table may be interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_hapl ... nic_groups
Not exactly true. My Paternal Line is Dutch but I turned out with the very rare R1a1a part of what is labeled as the Old European Branch it was some group that survived the initial colonization of Europe that was utterly disastrous and deadly for humanity for reasons we do not know.

by Chinese Regions » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:44 am

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by Mussoliniopoli » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:54 am
Forster Keys wrote:Mussoliniopoli wrote:Not exactly true. My Paternal Line is Dutch but I turned out with the very rare R1a1a part of what is labeled as the Old European Branch it was some group that survived the initial colonization of Europe that was utterly disastrous and deadly for humanity for reasons we do not know.
Wow. That's really cool. Is that the one with ties to the Basques and Sami?


by Dumb Ideologies » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:55 am

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by Farnhamia » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:09 am
Mussoliniopoli wrote:Forster Keys wrote:
Wow. That's really cool. Is that the one with ties to the Basques and Sami?
Unsure in fact there isn't much information avaible until they find some old burial mounds or something that matches my Y-chromosome. Until then I am pretty much an enigma though with the way it is stacking so far it looks like it might possibly concentrate along the Rhine. I submitted my results to the Russian Academy of DNA Genealogy and all they could give is some guesses of where my origins come from and it varied from Proto-Germanic Tribe to some lost guy from the Russian Steppes.


by Salandriagado » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:10 am

by Forster Keys » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:14 am
Mussoliniopoli wrote:Forster Keys wrote:
Wow. That's really cool. Is that the one with ties to the Basques and Sami?
Unsure in fact there isn't much information avaible until they find some old burial mounds or something that matches my Y-chromosome. Until then I am pretty much an enigma though with the way it is stacking so far it looks like it might possibly concentrate along the Rhine. I submitted my results to the Russian Academy of DNA Genealogy and all they could give is some guesses of where my origins come from and it varied from Proto-Germanic Tribe to some lost guy from the Russian Steppes.

by Mussoliniopoli » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:18 am
Farnhamia wrote:Mussoliniopoli wrote:Unsure in fact there isn't much information avaible until they find some old burial mounds or something that matches my Y-chromosome. Until then I am pretty much an enigma though with the way it is stacking so far it looks like it might possibly concentrate along the Rhine. I submitted my results to the Russian Academy of DNA Genealogy and all they could give is some guesses of where my origins come from and it varied from Proto-Germanic Tribe to some lost guy from the Russian Steppes.
You're just so unique, Old Liar.
I found Genetic Testing to be both eye opening and completely disturbing as it can throw off what genealogical attempts you are making as of now I am even more lost then before since my nearest Genetic Matches are from around the 1st Century AD and two of those fellows are from the UK and one is a Southern Slav from Macedonia. 
by Rastynhaven » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:20 am
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