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Whats your Y-DNA Haplogroup

Postby Seaforce » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:29 pm

I'm into this stuff ... so I thought maybe those who know their Y-DNA haplogroup can share it here.

Mine is R1a1a1 (M417+)

For those who dont know whats a Y-DNA Haplogroup, here's a quick link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup

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Postby Katganistan » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:31 pm

This seems pretty highly specialized... I don't know anyone who knows this off-hand.

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Postby Barringtonia » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:35 pm

Katganistan wrote:This seems pretty highly specialized... I don't know anyone who knows this off-hand.


Pfft.. speak for yourself Kat, everyone knows their Y-DNA Haplogroup, mine's.. amm.. wait it's around here somewhere.. umm..

Stupid Haplogroups >:(
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:37 pm

Yeah, I haven't a clue either.
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Postby Callosamia » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:23 pm

Judging from the link, Haplogroup O2a (M95) seems most likely.

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Postby Maurepas » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:29 pm

How would you even find out? I couldn't even tell you which is most likely, my family originates from several continents.

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Postby The Weregerbil Horde » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:52 pm

This isn't something anyone can guess. It requires a test of DNA.

And I can't see it as being of any interest how my patrilineal line reaches back to y-DNA "Adam". I'm only half-related to my father, quarter-related to my paternal grandfather, etc ... and the haplogroups are distinctions on the tens of thousands of years scale. Assuming a generation length of 25 years, we're talking about an ancestor who contributes on the order of one ten-thousandth of one percent of my genetic heritage.

This wouldn't even be interesting to a racial-purity nut, unless they also had an obsession with their patrilineal line. Anders Breivik might care about this shit. I don't.
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Postby North Calaveras » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:58 pm

i would say whichever one is a combination of mostly german with a hint of sicilian
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Postby Seaforce » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:59 pm

The Weregerbil Horde wrote:This isn't something anyone can guess. It requires a test of DNA.

And I can't see it as being of any interest how my patrilineal line reaches back to y-DNA "Adam". I'm only half-related to my father, quarter-related to my paternal grandfather, etc ... and the haplogroups are distinctions on the tens of thousands of years scale. Assuming a generation length of 25 years, we're talking about an ancestor who contributes on the order of one ten-thousandth of one percent of my genetic heritage.

This wouldn't even be interesting to a racial-purity nut, unless they also had an obsession with their patrilineal line. Anders Breivik might care about this shit. I don't.



This is about Genealogy - a component of it. You have to get tested for this to be determined, from companies like 23and me or FTDNA and certain others, even National Geographic.

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Postby Ratateague » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:00 pm

So is this essentially genetics mixed with anthropological migration?
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Postby Seaforce » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:02 pm

Barringtonia wrote:
Katganistan wrote:This seems pretty highly specialized... I don't know anyone who knows this off-hand.


Pfft.. speak for yourself Kat, everyone knows their Y-DNA Haplogroup, mine's.. amm.. wait it's around here somewhere.. umm..

Stupid Haplogroups >:(



I guess this wasnt the right place to bring this up :oops:

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Postby The Weregerbil Horde » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:05 pm

Seaforce wrote:
The Weregerbil Horde wrote:This isn't something anyone can guess. It requires a test of DNA.

And I can't see it as being of any interest how my patrilineal line reaches back to y-DNA "Adam". I'm only half-related to my father, quarter-related to my paternal grandfather, etc ... and the haplogroups are distinctions on the tens of thousands of years scale. Assuming a generation length of 25 years, we're talking about an ancestor who contributes on the order of one ten-thousandth of one percent of my genetic heritage.

This wouldn't even be interesting to a racial-purity nut, unless they also had an obsession with their patrilineal line. Anders Breivik might care about this shit. I don't.



This is about Genealogy - a component of it. You have to get tested for this to be determined, from companies like 23and me or FTDNA and certain others, even National Geographic.


That's fine, if people want to contribute to the information available on ancient migrations, by having tests done at their own expense.

What was your motive for having the test though? It cost you money, right?

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Postby The Weregerbil Horde » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:12 pm

North Calaveras wrote:i would say whichever one is a combination of mostly german with a hint of sicilian


See, this is the pitfall of asking "what is your y-DNA Haplogroup?"

People who don't read or don't understand the Wikipedia page linked to, will assume they're being asked their race (or genetic heritage or whatever) and judge by their most recent ancestors. But you could have had a B (north african) father in your father-of-father-of-father-of-etc line 30,000 years ago ... you'd be in the B haplogroup and there would be no way to know that without DNA testing.

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Postby Seaforce » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:14 pm

It started out as a process to understand, refine and confirm my own family roots and genealogy.

It didnt feel as expensive back in 2005 when i had all the major tests done, but yeah today some people may consider as a bit eccentric.

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Postby Set the Unbound » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:40 pm

Seaforce wrote:It started out as a process to understand, refine and confirm my own family roots and genealogy.

It didnt feel as expensive back in 2005 when i had all the major tests done, but yeah today some people may consider as a bit eccentric.


Its interesting, I should look into having the tests done.

My heritage is pretty mixed :p so there are a lot of possibilities...
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Postby Eliasonia » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:45 pm

I have absolutely no idea.
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:46 pm

Whatever German mixed with American Indian is.

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Postby Norstal » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:46 pm

Seaforce wrote:I'm into this stuff ... so I thought maybe those who know their Y-DNA haplogroup can share it here.

Mine is R1a1a1 (M417+)

For those who dont know whats a Y-DNA Haplogroup, here's a quick link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup

Oh I get it, it's like, a crappy version of a jigsaw puzzle.

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:46 pm

Haplogroup E1b1b (M215)
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Postby Autash » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:44 pm

Judging by the information on Wikipedia, I can say with 99 percent certainty that I am from Y-DNA haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1b4, a.k.a. subclade R-L21, otherwise known as a Brit.

But I'd need an actual DNA test to know for sure. Being an American, there's always room for uncertainty.
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Postby Moronius » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:47 pm

The Weregerbil Horde wrote:I'm only half-related to my father, quarter-related to my paternal grandfather, etc ... and the haplogroups are distinctions on the tens of thousands of years scale. Assuming a generation length of 25 years, we're talking about an ancestor who contributes on the order of one ten-thousandth of one percent of my genetic heritage.


You misunderstand. The Y-chromosome rarely ever mutates, so all of your male-line ancestors will share a nearly identical Y-chromosome with you, meaning you are 2% identical to your forefathers no matter how far back you go.

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Postby Risottia » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:49 pm

Moronius wrote:You misunderstand. The Y-chromosome rarely ever mutates, so all of your male-line ancestors will share a nearly identical Y-chromosome with you, meaning you are 2% identical to your forefathers no matter how far back you go.

Yay, we're all 2% ...Secondary-era fish?
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Postby Dagnia » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:51 pm

Not a clue, where do I find out? Probably a ton of stuff, since I'm a total mutt.
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Postby The Weregerbil Horde » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:59 pm

Moronius wrote:
The Weregerbil Horde wrote:I'm only half-related to my father, quarter-related to my paternal grandfather, etc ... and the haplogroups are distinctions on the tens of thousands of years scale. Assuming a generation length of 25 years, we're talking about an ancestor who contributes on the order of one ten-thousandth of one percent of my genetic heritage.


You misunderstand. The Y-chromosome rarely ever mutates, so all of your male-line ancestors will share a nearly identical Y-chromosome with you, meaning you are 2% identical to your forefathers no matter how far back you go.


Ah. Yes I see. Would that 2% be detectable by physical characteristics though?

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Postby The Weregerbil Horde » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:00 am

Dagnia wrote:Not a clue, where do I find out? Probably a ton of stuff, since I'm a total mutt.


You only have one y-DNA haplogroup (it is NOT race). If you're female ... you're not in one.

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