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Africans Less Smart than Other Races

Postby Neu Seeland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:16 pm

In light of studies such as the Bell Curve, do you agree with Dr Watson's, of DNA fame, conclusion that the poverty in Africa will not be solved any time soon due to the inherent lower IQ's of the subsaharan population?
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Postby Mga42 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:19 pm

Neu Seeland wrote:In light of studies such as the Bell Curve, do you agree with Dr Watson's, of DNA fame, conclusion that the poverty in Africa will not be solved any time soon due to the inherent lower IQ's of the subsaharan population?


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Postby Neu Seeland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:21 pm

Why not. A lot of evidence suggests that the average IQ's of the populations of African nations are far below that of European and Asian nations.

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Nationstatelandsville wrote:You sir, have earned the honor of "failtroll".

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Postby Indeos » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:24 pm

No source has been provided. Therefore, the referenced information does not exist and is therefore invalid.
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Postby Unilisia » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:25 pm

Technically, the average IQ in Africa would be significantly lower because of the lack of continuous public education. But as a race ? There are no races. Humanity is one single species.
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:25 pm

It couldn't POSSIBLY have anything to do with lack of adequate education, nutrition, extreme poverty, economic and civil instability... they're just naturally stupid, right?

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Postby Neu Seeland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:25 pm

I am glad you are dodging the question and not even considering the possibility.

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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:25 pm

Neu Seeland wrote:Why not. A lot of evidence suggests that the average IQ's of the populations of African nations are far below that of European and Asian nations.

What evidence? IQ is a terrible measure of intelligence, and a person's IQ score is heavily influenced by their environment. Take that kid from subsaharan Africa, and raise him on Long Island, and he'll be no different than any one else raised on Long Island when it comes to intelligence and aptitude.

There is far greater genetic variation within a so-called "race" than between the "races". Race is nothing more than a social construction, and it offers absolutely no predictive or explanatory power. It would be no less arbitrary to divide people up into races based on whether they have widow's peaks or can roll their tongue as to divide them based on skin color.
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Postby Neu Seeland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:27 pm

I cited the bell curve.

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Postby The Narexian Socialist States » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:28 pm

This thread is disturbing to say the least.

Not to mention probably VERY OFFENSIVE to those of us on here who are African. I am not at all African but I am sure there are quite a few on here. OP: You should apologize.
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Postby Barringtonia » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:28 pm

African IQ scores prove flawed

Wicherts and his colleagues examined over 100 published studies, concluding that there is no evidence to back up Lynn's claims. Amongst other flaws, Lynn used selective data by systematically ignoring Africans with high IQ scores. The researchers also claim that African IQ test scores cannot be interpreted in terms of lower intelligence levels, as these scores have different psychometric characteristics than western IQ test scores. Until now, the incomparability of Western and African IQ scores had never been systematically proven.

The scientists point out that the average African IQ is currently comparable to the average level in the Netherlands around 1950. However, IQ scores in Western countries have risen sharply over the course of the 20th century. In view of this trend, Wicherts and his colleagues claim there are no reasonable grounds to conclude that sub-Saharan countries are poor due to the lower IQ scores of their populations. As it turns out, the average IQ of African adults is seeing a similar rising trend, which is expected to continue if living conditions in Africa improve in future.


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Postby Genivaria » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:28 pm

Neu Seeland wrote:I cited the bell curve.

Not good enough. Link us to the page.
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Postby Vortiaganica » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:28 pm

Neu Seeland wrote:I cited the bell curve.


You MENTIONED a bell curve, not cited one.

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Barringtonia wrote:African IQ scores prove flawed

Wicherts and his colleagues examined over 100 published studies, concluding that there is no evidence to back up Lynn's claims. Amongst other flaws, Lynn used selective data by systematically ignoring Africans with high IQ scores. The researchers also claim that African IQ test scores cannot be interpreted in terms of lower intelligence levels, as these scores have different psychometric characteristics than western IQ test scores. Until now, the incomparability of Western and African IQ scores had never been systematically proven.

The scientists point out that the average African IQ is currently comparable to the average level in the Netherlands around 1950. However, IQ scores in Western countries have risen sharply over the course of the 20th century. In view of this trend, Wicherts and his colleagues claim there are no reasonable grounds to conclude that sub-Saharan countries are poor due to the lower IQ scores of their populations. As it turns out, the average IQ of African adults is seeing a similar rising trend, which is expected to continue if living conditions in Africa improve in future.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 155220.htm

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Postby Neu Seeland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:29 pm

Bravo! Now that's a reply.

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Postby Barringtonia » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:29 pm

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Postby Indeos » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:31 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Barringtonia wrote:African IQ scores prove flawed

Wicherts and his colleagues examined over 100 published studies, concluding that there is no evidence to back up Lynn's claims. Amongst other flaws, Lynn used selective data by systematically ignoring Africans with high IQ scores. The researchers also claim that African IQ test scores cannot be interpreted in terms of lower intelligence levels, as these scores have different psychometric characteristics than western IQ test scores. Until now, the incomparability of Western and African IQ scores had never been systematically proven.

The scientists point out that the average African IQ is currently comparable to the average level in the Netherlands around 1950. However, IQ scores in Western countries have risen sharply over the course of the 20th century. In view of this trend, Wicherts and his colleagues claim there are no reasonable grounds to conclude that sub-Saharan countries are poor due to the lower IQ scores of their populations. As it turns out, the average IQ of African adults is seeing a similar rising trend, which is expected to continue if living conditions in Africa improve in future.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 155220.htm

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Katganistan wrote:It couldn't POSSIBLY have anything to do with lack of adequate education, nutrition, extreme poverty, economic and civil instability... they're just naturally stupid, right?


More QFT. (Though, technically speaking one could argue that all that is a result of being naturally inferior, but one would be arguing without actual evidence.)
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