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I learned that....actually i haven't learned anything today.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:11 pm

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Are Honours classes like Advance Placements?

The A-level course (2 years) is equivalent to your first year of college in America, I'm told.

Why, I still don't understand, but Nor told me that that's because the stuff we do is much harder than what the average High Schooler does, and would, in essence, be the equivalent of what you'd learn as a first year in college.

honors is about half of AP. You dont go as in depth and the work isnt as hard.

They also dont give you college credit like AP classes do

You only get college credit if you get a 3 on the test. And even then some colleges nowadays only accept it for credit if you get a 4. The tests are expensive too. Still I have bragging rights as I got a 5 on a test. 8)
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Postby Kleomentia » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:12 pm

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The Warrior Hearted wrote:honors is about half of AP. You dont go as in depth and the work isnt as hard.

They also dont give you college credit like AP classes do

You only get college credit if you get a 3 on the test. And even then some colleges nowadays only accept it for credit if you get a 4. The tests are expensive too. Still I have bragging rights as I got a 5 on a test. 8)

Congrats.
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Postby The Warrior Hearted » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:13 pm

The Corparation wrote:
The Warrior Hearted wrote:honors is about half of AP. You dont go as in depth and the work isnt as hard.

They also dont give you college credit like AP classes do

You only get college credit if you get a 3 on the test. And even then some colleges nowadays only accept it for credit if you get a 4. The tests are expensive too. Still I have bragging rights as I got a 5 on a test. 8)

The tests are free at my school :/

They only cost money if you want them to rescore your multiple choice
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Postby Salvarity » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:13 pm

Keronians wrote:
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Hey, honors are honors.

I'd gladly join an honors class. School is so boring.


Come over here.

Honours classes are like APs, yes?

I have 5 subjects, all of which are college credit in the US.



i'm in 8th Grade.

Honors don't do shit for you except more work
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Postby Keronians » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:15 pm

The Warrior Hearted wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Are Honours classes like Advance Placements?

The A-level course (2 years) is equivalent to your first year of college in America, I'm told.

Why, I still don't understand, but Nor told me that that's because the stuff we do is much harder than what the average High Schooler does, and would, in essence, be the equivalent of what you'd learn as a first year in college.

honors is about half of AP. You dont go as in depth and the work isnt as hard.

They also dont give you college credit like AP classes do


I see.

You do AP classes, yes?

Post that question again. The one with the angle and velocity. I learnt how to work it out with Pythagoras' theorem and the parallelogram method in physics last week. :p
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Why the hell is she bitching at you? Its not gonna make your teachers grade shit any faster. I've had that problem before, though.

She thinks I haven't turned anything in.


I've had that happen before as well...
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:15 pm

Salvarity wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Come over here.

Honours classes are like APs, yes?

I have 5 subjects, all of which are college credit in the US.



i'm in 8th Grade.

Honors don't do shit for you except more work


Sigh. My 8th grade classes don't have honors.

Really, I'd like to try it. Looks good on a college application.
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Postby The Warrior Hearted » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:16 pm

Keronians wrote:
The Warrior Hearted wrote:honors is about half of AP. You dont go as in depth and the work isnt as hard.

They also dont give you college credit like AP classes do


I see.

You do AP classes, yes?

Post that question again. The one with the angle and velocity. I learnt how to work it out with Pythagoras' theorem and the parallelogram method in physics last week. :p

Yes, i do

And which question are you talking about?
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:16 pm

The Warrior Hearted wrote:
The Corparation wrote:You only get college credit if you get a 3 on the test. And even then some colleges nowadays only accept it for credit if you get a 4. The tests are expensive too. Still I have bragging rights as I got a 5 on a test. 8)

The tests are free at my school :/

They only cost money if you want them to rescore your multiple choice

You're lucky, school probably covers the bill for the test. After the price hike last year its more then 80 bucks a test, up to a over a hundred dollars if you buy it late. Still cheaper then taking the college course if only the fact you don't have to buy a hundred dollar textbook.
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Postby Keronians » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:17 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Are Honours classes like Advance Placements?

The A-level course (2 years) is equivalent to your first year of college in America, I'm told.

Why, I still don't understand, but Nor told me that that's because the stuff we do is much harder than what the average High Schooler does, and would, in essence, be the equivalent of what you'd learn as a first year in college.


Sort of. Honors classes are more advanced classes yes, but they aren't like skipping an 11th grade class for a 12th grade class.


US system confuses me.

In my school and in the UK, everybody wanting to progress beyond obligatory education (until 16) does the A-level. The A-level is a two year course split into six units per subject. You are examined on 3 units in May and June of your first year, and the other 3 in May and June of your second year.

After that, your scores are added together to give you the final grade for that subject.

Supposing you drop one subject at the end of your first year, that is counted as only half credit.

In the US, I'm told that the A-level is basically AP.
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Postby Keronians » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:18 pm

The Warrior Hearted wrote:
Keronians wrote:
I see.

You do AP classes, yes?

Post that question again. The one with the angle and velocity. I learnt how to work it out with Pythagoras' theorem and the parallelogram method in physics last week. :p

Yes, i do

And which question are you talking about?


Some question you posted a week ago. Something about being fired at an angle of xº with a velocity of y ms^-1.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:19 pm

Keronians wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Sort of. Honors classes are more advanced classes yes, but they aren't like skipping an 11th grade class for a 12th grade class.


US system confuses me.

In my school and in the UK, everybody wanting to progress beyond obligatory education (until 16) does the A-level. The A-level is a two year course split into six units per subject. You are examined on 3 units in May and June of your first year, and the other 3 in May and June of your second year.

After that, your scores are added together to give you the final grade for that subject.

Supposing you drop one subject at the end of your first year, that is counted as only half credit.

In the US, I'm told that the A-level is basically AP.


US systems are less like universities and more stringent. You can't drop classes.
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Postby Keronians » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:20 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Salvarity wrote:

i'm in 8th Grade.

Honors don't do shit for you except more work


Sigh. My 8th grade classes don't have honors.

Really, I'd like to try it. Looks good on a college application.


And if you do AP, then you skip a year of college, while still getting full credit. That's $10,000 saved. :lol2:

I tutor younger students at my school, do community service, worked in the summer, and do sports just to put it on my CV, since it looks pretty good.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:21 pm

Keronians wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Sigh. My 8th grade classes don't have honors.

Really, I'd like to try it. Looks good on a college application.


And if you do AP, then you skip a year of college, while still getting full credit. That's $10,000 saved. :lol2:

I tutor younger students at my school, do community service, worked in the summer, and do sports just to put it on my CV, since it looks pretty good.


My high school does AP. It's different from Honors though.
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Postby Keronians » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:22 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Keronians wrote:
US system confuses me.

In my school and in the UK, everybody wanting to progress beyond obligatory education (until 16) does the A-level. The A-level is a two year course split into six units per subject. You are examined on 3 units in May and June of your first year, and the other 3 in May and June of your second year.

After that, your scores are added together to give you the final grade for that subject.

Supposing you drop one subject at the end of your first year, that is counted as only half credit.

In the US, I'm told that the A-level is basically AP.


US systems are less like universities and more stringent. You can't drop classes.


It was like that until last year for us as well.

You need to do a minimum of 3 subjects to get into university (basic requirement). I'm currently doing 5. Therefore, I can drop a maximum of 2 if I want to, but I'll probably do 5, then drop one next year and do 4 full credit, one half credit.
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Postby The Warrior Hearted » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:23 pm

Keronians wrote:
The Warrior Hearted wrote:Yes, i do

And which question are you talking about?


Some question you posted a week ago. Something about being fired at an angle of xº with a velocity of y ms^-1.

dont remember that one

heres a new one i guess

how far will a cannon ball travel if it was fired at 27m/s at an angle of 67 degrees? Assume the cannon is being fired on mars.
(mars gravity is 38% earths gravity)
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Postby Keronians » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:23 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Keronians wrote:
And if you do AP, then you skip a year of college, while still getting full credit. That's $10,000 saved. :lol2:

I tutor younger students at my school, do community service, worked in the summer, and do sports just to put it on my CV, since it looks pretty good.


My high school does AP. It's different from Honors though.


I understood. Honours is basically half credit, right? You don't get to skip a year of college, but are better prepared.

AP means you skip a year of college, no?
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:24 pm

Keronians wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Sort of. Honors classes are more advanced classes yes, but they aren't like skipping an 11th grade class for a 12th grade class.


US system confuses me.

In my school and in the UK, everybody wanting to progress beyond obligatory education (until 16) does the A-level. The A-level is a two year course split into six units per subject. You are examined on 3 units in May and June of your first year, and the other 3 in May and June of your second year.

After that, your scores are added together to give you the final grade for that subject.

Supposing you drop one subject at the end of your first year, that is counted as only half credit.

In the US, I'm told that the A-level is basically AP.

AP classes work completely different from A levels. They're just a regular class you go to like any other class except they're more in depth and make you "study at the college level" * come may you can take a test offered by the college board that if passed can you college credit depending on the college and the score. Some colleges accept the standard pass score of 3, a few only take 4s and some don't take any but like to see that you've taken them.

*Having now entered college I'd like to call that most of what my High school teachers said about college is flat out wrong, only a few of them actually know what its like these days mostly the younger ones that have graduated in the past decade or so. Just like my middle school teachers who were persistent in what they said high school would be like, I doubt any of them have set foot in a high school since they started teaching as 99.9% of what they said was wrong.
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Postby The Warrior Hearted » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:25 pm

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My high school does AP. It's different from Honors though.


I understood. Honours is basically half credit, right? You don't get to skip a year of college, but are better prepared.

AP means you skip a year of college, no?

you skip the corresponding class (or classes, depending on the AP class) in college.
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Postby Keronians » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:27 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Keronians wrote:
US system confuses me.

In my school and in the UK, everybody wanting to progress beyond obligatory education (until 16) does the A-level. The A-level is a two year course split into six units per subject. You are examined on 3 units in May and June of your first year, and the other 3 in May and June of your second year.

After that, your scores are added together to give you the final grade for that subject.

Supposing you drop one subject at the end of your first year, that is counted as only half credit.

In the US, I'm told that the A-level is basically AP.

AP classes work completely different from A levels. They're just a regular class you go to like any other class except they're more in depth and make you "study at the college level" * come may you can take a test offered by the college board that if passed can you college credit depending on the college and the score. Some colleges accept the standard pass score of 3, a few only take 4s and some don't take any but like to see that you've taken them.

*Having now entered college I'd like to call that most of what my High school teachers said about college is flat out wrong, only a few of them actually know what its like these days mostly the younger ones that have graduated in the past decade or so. Just like my middle school teachers who were persistent in what they said high school would be like, I doubt any of them have set foot in a high school since they started teaching as 99.9% of what they said was wrong.


Well, yeah, you don't get anywhere without the exams in A levels either.

Nor in GCSEs, which is what I did last year.

Classwork is simply notes, and practice to help you and prepare you for the exam.

Top universities in the UK tend to ask for a minimum of AAA at A-level.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:29 pm

Keronians wrote:
The Corparation wrote:AP classes work completely different from A levels. They're just a regular class you go to like any other class except they're more in depth and make you "study at the college level" * come may you can take a test offered by the college board that if passed can you college credit depending on the college and the score. Some colleges accept the standard pass score of 3, a few only take 4s and some don't take any but like to see that you've taken them.

*Having now entered college I'd like to call that most of what my High school teachers said about college is flat out wrong, only a few of them actually know what its like these days mostly the younger ones that have graduated in the past decade or so. Just like my middle school teachers who were persistent in what they said high school would be like, I doubt any of them have set foot in a high school since they started teaching as 99.9% of what they said was wrong.


Well, yeah, you don't get anywhere without the exams in A levels either.

Nor in GCSEs, which is what I did last year.

Classwork is simply notes, and practice to help you and prepare you for the exam.

Top universities in the UK tend to ask for a minimum of AAA at A-level.

I'm wondering would the A levels be more comparable to the SAT and ACT then?
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Postby Keronians » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:31 pm

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Well, yeah, you don't get anywhere without the exams in A levels either.

Nor in GCSEs, which is what I did last year.

Classwork is simply notes, and practice to help you and prepare you for the exam.

Top universities in the UK tend to ask for a minimum of AAA at A-level.

I'm wondering would the A levels be more comparable to the SAT and ACT then?


I think the AS level would be equivalent to the SAT, and the A2 level to the ACT.

From my (limited) understanding, the SAT is something you give in grade 11 and ACT in grade 12, no?
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Postby The Warrior Hearted » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:33 pm

Keronians wrote:
The Corparation wrote:I'm wondering would the A levels be more comparable to the SAT and ACT then?


I think the AS level would be equivalent to the SAT, and the A2 level to the ACT.

From my (limited) understanding, the SAT is something you give in grade 11 and ACT in grade 12, no?

yes and no

You take the ACT in 11th grade for free but they are college entry exams. You can take the ACt and SAT as many times you want but you have to pay to take them. If you dont meet the requirements on either the ACT or SAT, colleges here will refuse to let you enroll.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:34 pm

Keronians wrote:
The Corparation wrote:I'm wondering would the A levels be more comparable to the SAT and ACT then?


I think the AS level would be equivalent to the SAT, and the A2 level to the ACT.

From my (limited) understanding, the SAT is something you give in grade 11 and ACT in grade 12, no?

The SAT and ACT are two entirely different tests that can be taken in either 11 or 12th grade. They're basically used to evaluate how much you know, and show colleges what your scores. I didn't take the SAT only the ACT but I got a 32 so I had colleges across the country send me stuff without even checking anything else.
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