Man emasculated due to cancer; sues.

[Der Teutoniker]

Well, if he signed it before the surgery (which I'm sure he did; doctors DON"T make people sign things when they're under), then it was his own fault if he didn't read it.

Without knowing much about this case, I think part of the problem is the man did not feel this constituted an emergency. There was cancer, but that surely doesn't mean he would die before getting a second opinion.

Cancer does not mean "start slicing and dicing". There are often paths taken to treat cancer that don't involve the removal of organs.

[Reformed Yethtu]

Well, if he signed it before the surgery

If he signed it under a stressful emotional circumstance e.g. immediately after being given such bad news, or was unable to understand the full implications of the wording, etc, etc.

I'd be quite interested to hear an actual lawyers interpretation of the ways in which signing a legal document like this can be invalid. I'm in no doubt that there are a fair number

I suppose that's true. I haden't thought about it in that context. Thats a piece of information I'll have to find before I can make a fully educated decision.

[Paragade]

I'd rather die then be emasculated so I see where this guy is coming from.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Given that they have been able to rebuild functional penises on rabbits http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MensHealth ... id=9016303 it is theoretically not that much of an issue. Practically of course money is the problem.

The future of the sex industry.

Lab grown penis.

Well, if he signed it before the surgery (which I'm sure he did; doctors DON"T make people sign things when they're under), then it was his own fault if he didn't read it.

Without knowing much about this case, I think part of the problem is the man did not feel this constituted an emergency. There was cancer, but that surely doesn't mean he would die before getting a second opinion.

Cancer does not mean "start slicing and dicing". There are often paths taken to treat cancer that don't involve the removal of organs.

The cancer could have progressed to a stage where amputation was the only readily available treatment.

The article does mention that his penis was inflamed. That's fairly serious if it is cancer.

[Fionnuala_Saoirse]

The way I understand it, and the way I understand that it is normally done, is that he had signed the contract prior to the operation that specified that the doctor had the ability to perform further surgery in the event of unforeseen consequences or something.

Yet my understanding is that the consenting doctor would have to outline potential further surgery that is known to occur in such an instance. In my own area you aren't just handed a sheet and left to it. The junior doctor consents you and goes through the form fully with you elaborating on the various points within. I'm fully aware that the law may differ there but I find it hard to believe that what is presented in the article is all that there is. That's why i'm interested in an NSG Legal Eagle take on it.

[JJ Place]

The male per capita percentage of the population is a little under 50% of the total population of the developed world. There are 13 jures on a jury. That's an automatic 5 votes to the guilt of this doctor.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

The male per capita percentage of the population is a little under 50% of the total population of the developed world. There are 13 jures on a jury. That's an automatic 5 votes to the guilt of this doctor.

Must be a poor jury since they're not supposed to be researching anything that isn't presented in court. Hard to see that automatic guilty if the doctor presents a signed contract that had been explained in detail to this fellow.

Then again, this man is suing a doctor who saved his life, so I doubt he thought it through very far and is probably trying to make some money.

The way I understand it, and the way I understand that it is normally done, is that he had signed the contract prior to the operation that specified that the doctor had the ability to perform further surgery in the event of unforeseen consequences or something.

Yet my understanding is that the consenting doctor would have to outline potential further surgery that is known to occur in such an instance. In my own area you aren't just handed a sheet and left to it. The junior doctor consents you and goes through the form fully with you elaborating on the various points within. I'm fully aware that the law may differ there but I find it hard to believe that what is presented in the article is all that there is. That's why i'm interested in an NSG Legal Eagle take on it.

I guess we'll have to stay rigidly vigilant until then, so as to see if any new information presents itself.

[AiliailiA]

I'd rather die then be emasculated so I see where this guy is coming from.

Your dick is more important to you than every other part of you, corporeal or incorporeal?

That's kind of sad.

[Unilisia]

The Seatons have already sued Jewish Hospital, where the surgery took place.

Is that really a real place

On a more serious note, if the man didn't want his cancerous penis removed, he should have just let himself die.

[Der Teutoniker]

The cancer could have progressed to a stage where amputation was the only readily available treatment.

The article does mention that his penis was inflamed. That's fairly serious if it is cancer.

It had progressed to the point of requiring immediate surgery, though? The doctor could not have waited a day or two?

I think that the doctor misjudged the necessity (or reception) of the operation, and went ahead with it without thinking too much about it. Seriously amputating a penis? Without direct consent? He should have known that it would not end well.

[AiliailiA]

The male per capita percentage of the population is a little under 50% of the total population of the developed world. There are 13 jures on a jury. That's an automatic 5 votes to the guilt of this doctor.

Must be a poor jury since they're not supposed to be researching anything that isn't presented in court. Hard to see that automatic guilty if the doctor presents a signed contract that had been explained in detail to this fellow.

Then again, this man is suing a doctor who saved his life, so I doubt he thought it through very far and is probably trying to make some money.

Or he's alive but with a shorter dick, and doesn't give a fuck anymore ... oops, I have run aground on a pun already.

I had a point of some kind, I ... oh, damn.

[Potarius]

Is that really a real place

On a more serious note, if the man didn't want his cancerous penis removed, he should have just let himself die.

Look, we don't even know if the cancer wouldn't have just grown another head on it.

Hydrapenis.

[The Parkus Empire]

I'd rather die then be emasculated so I see where this guy is coming from.

Your dick is more important to you than every other part of you, corporeal or incorporeal?

That's kind of sad.

Must be rather attached to it.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

The cancer could have progressed to a stage where amputation was the only readily available treatment.

The article does mention that his penis was inflamed. That's fairly serious if it is cancer.

It had progressed to the point of requiring immediate surgery, though? The doctor could not have waited a day or two?

I think that the doctor misjudged the necessity (or reception) of the operation, and went ahead with it without thinking too much about it. Seriously amputating a penis? Without direct consent? He should have known that it would not end well.

According to the article, he initially removed the glans due to cancerous growth.

Apparently another doctor removed the rest of it.

Not entirely sure how legal this is without consulting the patient, though there could be some legal loophole about it being a medical emergency or something tbh.

[Unilisia]

On a more serious note, if the man didn't want his cancerous penis removed, he should have just let himself die.

Look, we don't even know if the cancer wouldn't have just grown another head on it.

Hydrapenis.

Sound's like a B-movie.

[The Parkus Empire]

Thought of this for some reason when you said "glorified".

He's no longer going to be able to "plant the flag"...?

I just had an image in my head of a penis doing some feat of war, being romanticized in a painting.

[AiliailiA]

Is that really a real place

On a more serious note, if the man didn't want his cancerous penis removed, he should have just let himself die.

Or gone first person on his lesbian fantasies ... still an option come to think of it ...

Damn it, I can't write a whole sentence without making a pun. I'm a guy and I find this funny. I should probably put my penis on eBay, apparently I don't value it like other guys do.

[Potarius]

Look, we don't even know if the cancer wouldn't have just grown another head on it.

Hydrapenis.

Sound's like a B-movie.

Kinda like Mansquito.

Hydrapenis vs. Mansquito

[Der Teutoniker]

According to the article, he initially removed the glans due to cancerous growth.

Apparently another doctor removed the rest of it.

Not entirely sure how legal this is without consulting the patient, though there could be some legal loophole about it being a medical emergency or something tbh.

It all comes down to (I'm sure) whether or not the jury - with further situational knowledge - will determine that the operation was medically necessary.

[AiliailiA]

Your dick is more important to you than every other part of you, corporeal or incorporeal?

That's kind of sad.

Must be rather attached to it.

I was rather attached to my appendix. Then the little fucker tried to kill me and I consented to have someone cut me open, detach it, and throw it away.

At least, I think they threw it away. Perhaps some hungry med student fried it up and ate it. Don't really care.

[Sane Outcasts]

Or gone first person on his lesbian fantasies ... still an option come to think of it ...

Damn it, I can't write a whole sentence without making a pun. I'm a guy and I find this funny. I should probably put my penis on eBay, apparently I don't value it like other guys do.

Nah, I think it's pretty funny in spite of my genitalia. Hell, I'd have mine taken off if it was going to kill me. Sure, peeing would never feel the same again, but I'd be alive long enough to write a bestselling novel about overcoming my loss:

"Your Penis or Your Life: A True Story of an Impossible Choice"

[Unilisia]

Sound's like a B-movie.

Kinda like Mansquito.

Hydrapenis vs. Mansquito

Hydrapenis meets Teeth.

[The Parkus Empire]

Sound's like a B-movie.

Kinda like Mansquito.

Hydrapenis vs. Mansquito

Or maybe a sequel to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xok_rlNoZ4o

Two-Eyed Monster.

[Unilisia]

I just had an image in my head of a penis doing some feat of war, being romanticized in a painting.

The moment I read this sentence I imagined Napoleon's head replaced with a penis riding a horse into battle and being beaten down by bear cavalry. Then his 'head' was ripped off.

[JuNii]

He showed jurors four photographs of Mr Seaton's crotch, saying: "You can see there's nothing there."

Clay Robinson, a lawyer for Dr Patterson, said his client had only removed the tip of the penis after he had found cancer.

He also contends that Mr Seaton had signed a document authorising necessary treatment in unforseen circumstances.

He said another doctor had later removed the rest of the organ.

"just the tip" and another doctor "removed the rest"... now if they had photos after the first and before the second...

besides, the hospital settled out of court.