92% of Americans want to live in Sweden.

[An Intelligent Man]

I saw this covered on PBS Newshour yesterday. This episode.

Now I'll link to the online version of the quiz, against from PBS's website. Before you look at this, bear in mind that the online version is not necessarily "cold canvassed" ... a lot of the respondents would already know the answer from watching the show or indeed reading the page it is on. Here is the quiz that PBS gave to people on the street.

Now, PBS's "research" on the street was completely unscientific. But on their site they link to the study by Michael Norton and Dan Ariely, which is pretty damn scientific.

Here's a link to the pdf from Harvard Business School's site.

92% of Americans, when choosing between the actual wealth distribution of the United States and that of Sweden (without knowing which is which) actually prefer Sweden.

As far as I can tell, the study does not say what proportion of people actually think they're living in Sweden (wealth-distribution wise).

What is it with you and Sweden? I remember last time you were telling us how America "is Sweden's Mexico."

[Rambhutan]

I don't think they would fit.

[Vecherd]

I saw this covered on PBS Newshour yesterday. This episode.

Now I'll link to the online version of the quiz, against from PBS's website. Before you look at this, bear in mind that the online version is not necessarily "cold canvassed" ... a lot of the respondents would already know the answer from watching the show or indeed reading the page it is on. Here is the quiz that PBS gave to people on the street.

Now, PBS's "research" on the street was completely unscientific. But on their site they link to the study by Michael Norton and Dan Ariely, which is pretty damn scientific.

Here's a link to the pdf from Harvard Business School's site.

92% of Americans, when choosing between the actual wealth distribution of the United States and that of Sweden (without knowing which is which) actually prefer Sweden.

As far as I can tell, the study does not say what proportion of people actually think they're living in Sweden (wealth-distribution wise).

What is it with you and Sweden? I remember last time you were telling us how America "is Sweden's Mexico."

According to the HDI index Sweden is worse than the U.S.

1 Norway 0.938
2 Australia 0.937
3 New Zealand 0.907
4 United States 0.902
5 Ireland 0.895
6 Liechtenstein 0.891
7 Netherlands 0.890
8 Canada 0.888
9 Sweden 0.885

[Salandriagado]

What is it with you and Sweden? I remember last time you were telling us how America "is Sweden's Mexico."

According to the HDI index Sweden is worse than the U.S.

1 Norway 0.938
2 Australia 0.937
3 New Zealand 0.907
4 United States 0.902
5 Ireland 0.895
6 Liechtenstein 0.891
7 Netherlands 0.890
8 Canada 0.888
9 Sweden 0.885

Or, if you adjust for inequality:

1. Norway 0.876
2. Australia 0.864
3. Sweden 0.824
4. Netherlands 0.818
5. Germany 0.814
6. Switzerland 0.813
7. Ireland 0.813
8. Canada 0.812
9. Iceland 0.811
10. Denmark 0.810
11. Finland 0.806
12. United States 0.799

[Vecherd]

According to the HDI index Sweden is worse than the U.S.

1 Norway 0.938
2 Australia 0.937
3 New Zealand 0.907
4 United States 0.902
5 Ireland 0.895
6 Liechtenstein 0.891
7 Netherlands 0.890
8 Canada 0.888
9 Sweden 0.885

Or, if you adjust for inequality:

1. Norway 0.876
2. Australia 0.864
3. Sweden 0.824
4. Netherlands 0.818
5. Germany 0.814
6. Switzerland 0.813
7. Ireland 0.813
8. Canada 0.812
9. Iceland 0.811
10. Denmark 0.810
11. Finland 0.806
12. United States 0.799

I doubt Norway is the worlds most unequal country.

[Takaram]

Or, if you adjust for inequality:

1. Norway 0.876
2. Australia 0.864
3. Sweden 0.824
4. Netherlands 0.818
5. Germany 0.814
6. Switzerland 0.813
7. Ireland 0.813
8. Canada 0.812
9. Iceland 0.811
10. Denmark 0.810
11. Finland 0.806
12. United States 0.799

I doubt Norway is the worlds most unequal country.

Umm, it's the other way around, actually. Norway rates as the most equal.

[Salandriagado]

Or, if you adjust for inequality:

1. Norway 0.876
2. Australia 0.864
3. Sweden 0.824
4. Netherlands 0.818
5. Germany 0.814
6. Switzerland 0.813
7. Ireland 0.813
8. Canada 0.812
9. Iceland 0.811
10. Denmark 0.810
11. Finland 0.806
12. United States 0.799

I doubt Norway is the worlds most unequal country.

Lord preserve us. That's the list of countries with the best inequality-adjusted HDI. As in, the ones with the best HDI and the LOWEST inequality, as you well know.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Prefer the wealth distribution of Sweden /=/ Want to live in Sweden.

I'd love to have some of the wonderful architecture of St. Petersburg, doesn't mean I want to live in Russia.

I don't share your logic.

[Huaraka]

Hmm, Sweden is indeed a nice country to live I agree. But I would preferably life in the US.

Especially when that g*ddamn universal healthcare stuff is online

[Secular Sweden]

Living in Sweden?
You might want to wait until the douchebag on the left is not in power anymore.


That will hopfully transpire after the swedish general election, September 14, 2014.

[Vecherd]

Lord preserve us. That's the list of countries with the best inequality-adjusted HDI. As in, the ones with the best HDI and the LOWEST inequality, as you well know.

Listen, you can find all kind of statistics on how Sweden is better than the U.S, but it is better to use standard versions, like the HDI index without the tampering.

[An Intelligent Man]

Lord preserve us. That's the list of countries with the best inequality-adjusted HDI. As in, the ones with the best HDI and the LOWEST inequality, as you well know.

Listen, you can find all kind of statistics on how Sweden is better than the U.S, but it is better to use standard versions, like the HDI index without the tampering.

"Better" is not a quantitative term.
US statistics are guaranteed to be, in search of a better word, really screwed. We have some really horrible areas, and we have great areas. And honestly, I prefer it here. Mostly because I live in a great area. If Sweden is better, why does it have more alcoholism and suicide? Those are generally aggravating factors of a not so great place.
However, it is not my place to judge. I have never been to Sweden.

[Sepultor]

If Sweden is better, why does it have more alcoholism and suicide? Those are generally aggravating factors of a not so great place.
However, it is not my place to judge. I have never been to Sweden.

It might be the climate. The suicide rate in the north is worse, we probably need more sun and vitamin D and stuff...

[AiliailiA]

I saw this covered on PBS Newshour yesterday. This episode.

Now I'll link to the online version of the quiz, against from PBS's website. Before you look at this, bear in mind that the online version is not necessarily "cold canvassed" ... a lot of the respondents would already know the answer from watching the show or indeed reading the page it is on. Here is the quiz that PBS gave to people on the street.

Now, PBS's "research" on the street was completely unscientific. But on their site they link to the study by Michael Norton and Dan Ariely, which is pretty damn scientific.

Here's a link to the pdf from Harvard Business School's site.

92% of Americans, when choosing between the actual wealth distribution of the United States and that of Sweden (without knowing which is which) actually prefer Sweden.

As far as I can tell, the study does not say what proportion of people actually think they're living in Sweden (wealth-distribution wise).

What is it with you and Sweden? I remember last time you were telling us how America "is Sweden's Mexico."

That wasn't me, petal.

I'm quite a fan of yours btw.

[Vecherd]

Listen, you can find all kind of statistics on how Sweden is better than the U.S, but it is better to use standard versions, like the HDI index without the tampering.

"Better" is not a quantitative term.
US statistics are guaranteed to be, in search of a better word, really screwed. We have some really horrible areas, and we have great areas. And honestly, I prefer it here. Mostly because I live in a great area. If Sweden is better, why does it have more alcoholism and suicide? Those are generally aggravating factors of a not so great place.
However, it is not my place to judge. I have never been to Sweden.

Uhmm, I was supporting the U.S, but what ever.

I think the U.S and Sweden is similar in how it is to live there, but Swedish cities often look shitty, I think immigration have taken its toll on cities like Göteborg and Malmö. Ive been both places. And I have been to Sweden atleast a hundred times.

[Sibirsky]

Prefer the wealth distribution of Sweden /=/ Want to live in Sweden.

I'd love to have some of the wonderful architecture of St. Petersburg, doesn't mean I want to live in Russia.

Communist.

[Sibirsky]

I doubt Norway is the worlds most unequal country.

Umm, it's the other way around, actually. Norway rates as the most equal.

No. Norway ranks as the highest in HDI. And when you adjust it for inequality it still ranks highest. It doesn't mean it's the most equal. Czech Republic, Sweden, Japan and Denmark all have more quality.

[Lessnt]

Clearly a system which allows the top 1% to control like 40% of the wealth is fine...

Yes, that is perfectly fine, as long as they come to that wealth through honest means, and not government redistribution.

Personally I am not entirely fine with that.

[Katganistan]

I saw this covered on PBS Newshour yesterday. This episode.

Now I'll link to the online version of the quiz, against from PBS's website. Before you look at this, bear in mind that the online version is not necessarily "cold canvassed" ... a lot of the respondents would already know the answer from watching the show or indeed reading the page it is on. Here is the quiz that PBS gave to people on the street.

Now, PBS's "research" on the street was completely unscientific. But on their site they link to the study by Michael Norton and Dan Ariely, which is pretty damn scientific.

Here's a link to the pdf from Harvard Business School's site.

92% of Americans, when choosing between the actual wealth distribution of the United States and that of Sweden (without knowing which is which) actually prefer Sweden.

As far as I can tell, the study does not say what proportion of people actually think they're living in Sweden (wealth-distribution wise).

I am sure that Sweden is a nice place to live. I am also sure this statistic is a crock.

[Lessnt]

I saw this covered on PBS Newshour yesterday. This episode.

Now I'll link to the online version of the quiz, against from PBS's website. Before you look at this, bear in mind that the online version is not necessarily "cold canvassed" ... a lot of the respondents would already know the answer from watching the show or indeed reading the page it is on. Here is the quiz that PBS gave to people on the street.

Now, PBS's "research" on the street was completely unscientific. But on their site they link to the study by Michael Norton and Dan Ariely, which is pretty damn scientific.

Here's a link to the pdf from Harvard Business School's site.

92% of Americans, when choosing between the actual wealth distribution of the United States and that of Sweden (without knowing which is which) actually prefer Sweden.

As far as I can tell, the study does not say what proportion of people actually think they're living in Sweden (wealth-distribution wise).

I am sure that Sweden is a nice place to live. I am also sure this statistic is a crock.

I dont know if its crock.
US citizens are easily mislead when not given all the facts....

[Sibirsky]

I am sure that Sweden is a nice place to live. I am also sure this statistic is a crock.

I dont know if its crock.
US citizens are easily mislead when not given all the facts....

I don't think anything is misleading. Other than the thread title.

[Der Teutoniker]

A variation in wealth is fine for a society, especially when it is the result of economic freedom.

On an individual scale, not everyone is equal.

I cashier overnights at Walmart. Bill Gates deserves billions of dollars more than me.

[Der Teutoniker]

US citizens are easily mislead when not given all the facts....

Wow, nice trolly way of saying that people who are given misinformation can be misinformed.

[Lessnt]

US citizens are easily mislead when not given all the facts....

Wow, nice trolly way of saying that people who are given misinformation can be misinformed.

misinformation and not being told the whole truth are two different things in my opinion.
Of course that is the manipulator in me talking.

[Der Teutoniker]

misinformation and not being told the whole truth are two different things in my opinion.
Of course that is the manipulator in me talking.

The real point is that you singled US citizens out as people who would not understand something correctly if given insufficient information.