Your view on The EU

[Nightkill the Emperor]

In the Middle Ages, if you told people that England and Scotland would unite, they'd have killed you on the spot.

In the year 24 BC, if you told people that the Son of God was suppose to be crucified, they'd crucify you.

Or say the kid had it coming.

[Keronians]

I hate the EU, it's morally self-righteous yet totally undemocratic, it pretends to be fair and just, yet the German taxpayer is forced to pay for Greek stupidity. It allows immigrants to run rampant throughout European nations, yet indigenous Europeans are treated as second class citizens.

It's an abomination and I can't wait for it to be gone forever.

Yeah, except for the fact that the EU IS democratic. It needs to become more democratic, but it is democratic. All its members are also liberal democracies.

As for Germany: do you have any idea how much Germany earns because of the EU? Not to mention that most economic policy is made favouring Germany.

As for immigrants, European immigrants BENEFIT economic growth, so...

[Divair]

I only have one thing to say to people moaning about paying taxes to fix other people's problems.


You're already doing it, EU or no EU.
Your taxes are being spent on other people in your country that fucked up. By having the EU, you're just adding more people that fucked up, but more people that will pay taxes.

[Shaoyuan]

I only have one thing to say to people moaning about paying taxes to fix other people's problems.


You're already doing it, EU or no EU.
Your taxes are being spent on other people in your country that fucked up. By having the EU, you're just adding more people that fucked up, but more people that will pay taxes.

Here was me thinking that our taxes were there for when rich people and corporations screwed up.

[Delanshar]

I only have one thing to say to people moaning about paying taxes to fix other people's problems.


You're already doing it, EU or no EU.
Your taxes are being spent on other people in your country that fucked up. By having the EU, you're just adding more people that fucked up, but more people that will pay taxes.

Not really...adding Greece to the Eurozone adds a lot of fuck-ups, but not so much good tax payers.

[Risna]

If I look at history in Europe for the past two thousand years all i see is violence and pain. Hmmm let us try cooperation for once? i support it.

[Jordsindia]

Europe united would be interesting to see indeed.

[Moral Libertarians]

If I look at history in Europe for the past two thousand years all i see is violence and pain. Hmmm let us try cooperation for once? i support it.

There are ways to peacefully cooperate without welding a motley collection of very different countries into a massive superstate.

[Abdju]

What is your view on the EU(See what I did thar??). Honestly, I hate it, its horrible basket case, and a ticking time bomb, it was a horrible idea from the start. It is also a viable threat to the Sovereignty of EU Nations. what about you?

Speaking as an EU citizen, I favour the closer integration of the EU into a federal structure, including the full integration of the outermost regions of member states such as Polynésie Française, the Pitcairn Islands, Falkland Islands, etc.

I also favour the creation of a single EU citizenship and taxation regime across the whole EU (including outermost regions), as well as the establishment of a single EU-wide qualification system for education (though the curriculum should be localised to each cultural region, including language teaching)

[Sorratsin]

If I look at history in Europe for the past two thousand years all i see is violence and pain. Hmmm let us try cooperation for once? i support it.

You could also argue that history shows us that united European states cause a crapload of misery. Although that isn't really a good equivocation, because Rome/U.S.S.R./Third Reich all conquered Europe militarily instead of cooperating with their neighbors.

[Drekka]

Id Rather See a Unity between USA, Canada , And Mexico. Which could happen.

[Yootwopia]

*Massive Shrug*

[Sorratsin]

Id Rather See a Unity between USA, Canada , And Mexico. Which could happen.

No.

[Yootwopia]

Id Rather See a Unity between USA, Canada , And Mexico. Which could happen.

If you think the US wants anything to do with Mexico at the moment, you are wrong. If you think Canada wants anything to do with either of them, then you are also wrong.

[Osterveim]

What is your view on the EU(See what I did thar??). Honestly, I hate it, its horrible basket case, and a ticking time bomb, it was a horrible idea from the start. It is also a viable threat to the Sovereignty of EU Nations. what about you?

So, what would you have done after WWII?

Invade the USSR and begin planning ww3. the industry of Eurasia won't blow itself up...

[Hypparchia]

Trading bloc - yes. Federal state - no thanks. Larger government = more bureacracy = more mismanagement. I don't want to be a part of a superstate, I want to live in a small country with an effective government. Is that so hard to understand ?

[Kylarnatia]

I hate the Eurozone. I don't hate the European Union. I know they're pretty much the same sides of the same coin, even though it's being thrown around alot to bail alot of countries out (harr harr), but if I can make it any clearer; I hate the economic unionism (in terms of single currency anyway, trades always good) that all this business has tied into it, though I can respect everything else.

Granted, in the beginning it brought out alot of nations from horrible exchange figures when it first started, or rather when people first joined (Hungary, being a good example). Though eventually it has gotten to this point where the countries of Europe, because of this single currency, have put huge pressure on themselves due to the various exchange rates, and the amount of debt countries are getting themselves into to create the balance.

That is why we in the UK have never, and will never, join the Eurozone. Atleast, that's from a citizens prespective. There might be other reasons for not fully joining, but that is the most obvious to I think, well, everyone.

[Yootwopia]

Trading bloc - yes. Federal state - no thanks. Larger government = more bureacracy = more mismanagement. I don't want to be a part of a superstate, I want to live in a small country with an effective government. Is that so hard to understand ?

Just need some supercomputers around to sort this out, for serious.

JOBPUTER, who works on issues of employment (any decisions made as to what your job are by JOBPUTER are absolutely cast in stone for a period of ten years, lobby away, puny carbon-based scum, but he sneers at your thoughts)

GUNPUTER, who deals with defence. Continued human involvement in defence affairs will only be tolerated at his descretion.

RULEOTRON, who acts in a presidential fashion, generating speeches based on a large bank of clichés and his Cadence-o-meter. RULEOTRON may or may not be given arms with which to rub childrens' hair at public events, to engender people to think of him as a compassionate leader, etc., this is entirely his choice.

CRIMEPUTER, who deals with law enforcement (he will be judge and jury of all crimes, the system will be changed to the Scottish Law system which includes Case Not Proven to prevent miscarriages of justice - CRIMEPUTER also has the autonomy to order robots built to act as the police force, JOBPUTER will provide the labour necessary).

ECONOTRON, who obviously deals with the economy in general.

Then again, they'd probably come up with most of the same solutions as their puny human counterparts in Congress, thinking about it. Bureaucracy is pretty great, after all. Keeps a lot of people in jobs instead of in a huff.

[Alyakia]

what is this i don't even

[Kylarnatia]

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what is this i don't even

A Frenchmen and a German? Never.

[Moral Libertarians]

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what is this i don't even

A symbol of the future of Europe, obviously...

[Vellosia]

With every passing day, my hatred for it grows.

I actually used to quite like the EU. But that was a long time ago.

[Alyakia]

With every passing day, my hatred for it grows.

I actually used to quite like the EU. But that was a long time ago.

Just a normal day. Sitting around, doing whatever it is you do. Generally enjoying yourself, not doing anything political really. Then at the end of the day, a light blinks in your head: "goddamn i hate the eu slightly more than before"

Forever.

[Moral Libertarians]

With every passing day, my hatred for it grows.

I actually used to quite like the EU. But that was a long time ago.

Did you think it was a noble enterprise for unity or something, or did you just like the sound if it?

I'm not judging. I used to hold some decidedly odd beliefs I no longer agree with...

[Vellosia]

With every passing day, my hatred for it grows.

I actually used to quite like the EU. But that was a long time ago.

Did you think it was a noble enterprise for unity or something, or did you just like the sound if it?

I'm not judging. I used to hold some decidedly odd beliefs I no longer agree with...

I'd more call it ignorance of what it actually was.