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Postby Greater Cabinda » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:23 pm

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What, that homosexuality is a mental disease that can be "cured" by kidnapping teenagers and sending them to concentration camps in Utah?

You're not exaggerating at all, right?

No. Read up on Bachmann's positions. She's extreme, and not in a good way.
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:24 pm

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I won't say the US destoyes itself by electing Bachmann. I am against capitalism myself, but in social issues, I mostly agrees with Bachmann.

You want to re-educate gay people and you believe that Black people were better off under slavery?


No, and no. I believe that gays should be gay if they wan't, but I am against gay-marriage and that gay people can adopt. I am stongly against slavery, and believe that black people were much better of in their homeland in Africa, than they ever were in America.
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Postby Greater Cabinda » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:26 pm

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Greater Cabinda wrote:You want to re-educate gay people and you believe that Black people were better off under slavery?


No, and no. I believe that gays should be gay if they wan't, but I am against gay-marriage and that gay people can adopt. I am stongly against slavery, and believe that black people were much better of in their homeland in Africa, than they ever were in America.

You, my friend, are a social liberal compared to Michelle Bachmann.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:27 pm

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Greater Cabinda wrote:You want to re-educate gay people and you believe that Black people were better off under slavery?


No, and no. I believe that gays should be gay if they wan't, but I am against gay-marriage and that gay people can adopt. I am stongly against slavery, and believe that black people were much better of in their homeland in Africa, than they ever were in America.


Want? So homosexuality is a choice?

Gay marriage and gay adoption? why kids will be indoctrinated into being gay?

Africa? Maybe if it was never colonized.......

So I have to ask? Home schooled?
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Postby Prometheos » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:29 pm

Greater Cabinda wrote:
Prometheos wrote:You're not exaggerating at all, right?

No. Read up on Bachmann's positions. She's extreme, and not in a good way.

Exaggerating... regarding concentration camps. I'm offended.

Mr. Altmark, please provide a link.
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:31 pm

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Greater Cabinda wrote:No. Read up on Bachmann's positions. She's extreme, and not in a good way.

Exaggerating... regarding concentration camps. I'm offended.

Mr. Altmark, please provide a link.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=115608
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:31 pm

Perry as president?
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:32 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
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No, and no. I believe that gays should be gay if they wan't, but I am against gay-marriage and that gay people can adopt. I am stongly against slavery, and believe that black people were much better of in their homeland in Africa, than they ever were in America.


Want? So homosexuality is a choice?

Gay marriage and gay adoption? why kids will be indoctrinated into being gay?

Africa? Maybe if it was never colonized.......

So I have to ask? Home schooled?

I dont think homosexuality is a choise, or, well, I don't know if it is. I may have formulated that sentence a bit bad.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:35 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
Want? So homosexuality is a choice?

Gay marriage and gay adoption? why kids will be indoctrinated into being gay?

Africa? Maybe if it was never colonized.......

So I have to ask? Home schooled?

I dont think homosexuality is a choise, or, well, I don't know if it is. I may have formulated that sentence a bit bad.
I live in Norway, neiter private-schools or home-schooling are normal here. I go to a free, rural public school in Western Norway.


Ok. Glad for the clarification. I was wondering if you were going to wave the Bible at me so I was going to have some fun.

Homosexuality exists in the wild so the question of choice is in doubt.

I know of a gay couple who adopt terminally ill children. They give them a happy home for the short time they will have life. I respect them as I don't know if I could handle watching that many children die as they have.
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Postby Prometheos » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:38 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Prometheos wrote:Exaggerating... regarding concentration camps. I'm offended.

Mr. Altmark, please provide a link.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=115608

No, I meant a link that proves Michele Bachmann approves of these "camps."
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:39 pm

I think the Republicans could win, does anyone else share the same view.
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:40 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:I dont think homosexuality is a choise, or, well, I don't know if it is. I may have formulated that sentence a bit bad.
I live in Norway, neiter private-schools or home-schooling are normal here. I go to a free, rural public school in Western Norway.


Ok. Glad for the clarification. I was wondering if you were going to wave the Bible at me so I was going to have some fun.

Homosexuality exists in the wild so the question of choice is in doubt.

I know of a gay couple who adopt terminally ill children. They give them a happy home for the short time they will have life. I respect them as I don't know if I could handle watching that many children die as they have.


Well, I am Christian, but I would not drag the Holy Bible into this discussion. I believe that God creates us in his image, and, if some turnes out gay, well, I shouldnt be the one to question that.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:40 pm

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No, I meant a link that proves Michele Bachmann approves of these "camps."


Her husband runs them, isn't that a pretty reasonable sign of her approval?
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Postby Realisim » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:45 pm

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Lessnt wrote:As if gays are being treated as second class citizens.People are overdramatic these days.


Well they can't get married. So... I don't think it's overdramatic to say you're being discriminated against when you are in fact being discriminated against.


Yes the can, they have to go to specific states to do so, but they can
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Postby Keronians » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:45 pm

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Greater Cabinda wrote:You want to re-educate gay people and you believe that Black people were better off under slavery?

And that carbon dioxide isn't a dangerous gas?


To be fair, she didn't really say that black people were better being enslaved, but that, family-wise, they were better when they were enslaved.
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Postby Takaram » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:47 pm

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Well they can't get married. So... I don't think it's overdramatic to say you're being discriminated against when you are in fact being discriminated against.


Yes the can, they have to go to specific states to do so, but they can


That's like saying that blacks in 1864 had equal rights because they weren't allowed to be held in slavery in some states.

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Postby Rhodmhire » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:49 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:And that carbon dioxide isn't a dangerous gas?


To be fair, she didn't really say that black people were better being enslaved, but that, family-wise, they were better when they were enslaved.


Of course she didn't say that, she just signed a pledge that said something along those lines.

That wasn't even the worst part of the Family Pledge, though.
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Well they can't get married. So... I don't think it's overdramatic to say you're being discriminated against when you are in fact being discriminated against.


Yes the can, they have to go to specific states to do so, but they can


They can, but she supports an amendment that would take that decision away from states and ban gay marriage.
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Postby Apollonesia » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:57 pm

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Vestr-Norig wrote:
I won't say the US destoyes itself by electing Bachmann. I am against capitalism myself, but in social issues, I mostly agrees with Bachmann.


What, that homosexuality is a mental disease that can be "cured" by kidnapping teenagers and sending them to concentration camps in Utah?

Concentration camps? Give me a break.

These clinics are meant to help and change these individuals.

I don't approve of them, however, for various reasons.
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Postby Takaram » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:00 pm

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What, that homosexuality is a mental disease that can be "cured" by kidnapping teenagers and sending them to concentration camps in Utah?

Concentration camps? Give me a break.

These clinics are meant to help and change these individuals.

I don't approve of them, however, for various reasons.


The methods that such camps use, from virtually kidnapping kids from their rooms in the dead of night to the prison like settings make concentration camp a term not as overblown as you might imagine. And say what you want about them meaning to help people they often wind up doing huge amounts of psychological damage to fix something that was never broken.

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Postby Rhodmhire » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:02 pm

Realisim wrote:
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Well they can't get married. So... I don't think it's overdramatic to say you're being discriminated against when you are in fact being discriminated against.


Yes the can, they have to go to specific states to do so, but they can


Except that Bachmann and most of the other prominent GOP candidates want a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages, thereby taking that right away from the States. I think Bachmann herself (or some other candidate) discussed how the tenth amendment wasn't enough to "take away the rights of children to have a stable family" or something along those lines. If it wasn't her who stated it, there is no doubt that she concurs with the notion and would fight to make it so.
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:05 pm

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What, that homosexuality is a mental disease that can be "cured" by kidnapping teenagers and sending them to concentration camps in Utah?

Concentration camps? Give me a break.

These clinics are meant to help and change these individuals.

I don't approve of them, however, for various reasons.


Have you read the reports from those clinics? Torture, locking people in cages and forcing them to live in their own excrement popped up on the list, along with the more usual abuse.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:09 pm

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Apollonesia wrote:Concentration camps? Give me a break.

These clinics are meant to help and change these individuals.

I don't approve of them, however, for various reasons.


Have you read the reports from those clinics? Torture, locking people in cages and forcing them to live in their own excrement popped up on the list, along with the more usual abuse.

Not to mention the psychological trauma even the 'mild' versions inflict on kids.

All of those camps are disgusting and SHOULD be shut down. But since they're in Utah and run by people who are friendly with the government of that state, they won't be until some major incident crops up that can't be quietly sidelined.
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Postby Takaram » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:11 pm

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Have you read the reports from those clinics? Torture, locking people in cages and forcing them to live in their own excrement popped up on the list, along with the more usual abuse.

Not to mention the psychological trauma even the 'mild' versions inflict on kids.

All of those camps are disgusting and SHOULD be shut down. But since they're in Utah and run by people who are friendly with the government of that state, they won't be until some major incident crops up that can't be quietly sidelined.


Or until the American people get their heads out of their asses and realize that the stuff that goes on there isn't cool. But more likely than not, you scenario will happen first.

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Postby Rhodmhire » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:12 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Apollonesia wrote:Concentration camps? Give me a break.

These clinics are meant to help and change these individuals.

I don't approve of them, however, for various reasons.


Have you read the reports from those clinics? Torture, locking people in cages and forcing them to live in their own excrement popped up on the list, along with the more usual abuse.


Obviously I'm not a big fan of these clinics, but could you perhaps provide a link to one of these reports detailing the specifics you have mentioned? I can easily comprehend mental trauma associated with it, and in all honesty that should be enough against these things, but I have not heard word of people living in excrement.
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