Bachmann Flees Iowa Fair After Being Confronted by Gay Teen.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Gays are real people feeling pain, both physical and mental, from discrimination.

Maybe.But not to a great extent by the majority.

Did you go out and measure that with your discriminatometer?

[Lessnt]

Restricting the mentally ill from owning guns is discrimination that people accept and are fine with.(most would not consider it discrimination)

That, again, is not a source. That's an opinion.
And, again, a very dumb one at that.

The mentally ill can't have guns for a reason; Guns are dangerous.
Gays can't marry for no reason whatsoever.

One is a safety issue, the other is discrimination.

A saftey issue that discriminates.

[Munathanura]

Well, can I at least have my source, then, since I provided a source for my claim that people in same-sex relationships are being discriminated against?

I dont believe it to be discrimination on a level that would be considered discrimination.(by most people and by comparrison to certain laws)

24 states have anti-gay legislation in place. Another 7 don't recognise same-sex relationships in any way, shape or form (aka no same sex de facto relationships are recognised). Only six states, plus DC, allow for same-sex marriages, while 8 allow for a civil union/recognise out of state marriages. That's 14 states out of 50 who either don't discriminate or mostly don't discriminate against same-sex couples. I'd say that that's quite a bit of discrimination.

That said, the level of discrimination has no bearing on the fact that I have provided you with the requested source, while you have not reciprocated. Either provide a source in your reply to my post, or admit that gays weren't offered the exact same deal as heterosexual couples, but refused it.

[Lessnt]

Maybe.But not to a great extent by the majority.

Did you go out and measure that with your discriminatometer?

Because I live around gay people.SO I actually talk to them.Do you?Or is it all in your head?Is it all what the internet and media show you?

[Juristonia]

Gays are real people feeling pain, both physical and mental, from discrimination.

Maybe.But not to a great extent by the majority.

So discrimination is okay, as long as we only discriminate against minorities.
This is just getting better and better.

[Dumb Ideologies]

If they are proven to be mentally incapable to make important decisions, most sane people would not want them deciding wheather or not to pull the trigger in there direction

How it is decided is how they are being discriminated against.
They get their hands on weapons and guns anyways.
Should I explain how this discrimination contributes to people developing more severe mental illnesses.

Yes. Stopping the mentally ill from having guns worsens their condition. Instead, of, you know, reducing the risk of them shooting themselves and all.

You heard it here first.

[Juristonia]

That, again, is not a source. That's an opinion.
And, again, a very dumb one at that.

The mentally ill can't have guns for a reason; Guns are dangerous.
Gays can't marry for no reason whatsoever.

One is a safety issue, the other is discrimination.

A saftey issue that discriminates.

A safety issue that prevents people from being killed.
Now quit avoiding the questions and prove your points.

[Mr Bananagrabber]

That, again, is not a source. That's an opinion.
And, again, a very dumb one at that.

The mentally ill can't have guns for a reason; Guns are dangerous.
Gays can't marry for no reason whatsoever.

One is a safety issue, the other is discrimination.

A saftey issue that discriminates.

There's no prejudice component!

[Lessnt]

I dont believe it to be discrimination on a level that would be considered discrimination.(by most people and by comparrison to certain laws)

24 states have anti-gay legislation in place. Another 7 don't recognise same-sex relationships in any way, shape or form (aka no same sex de facto relationships are recognised). Only six states, plus DC, allow for same-sex marriages, while 8 allow for a civil union/recognise out of state marriages. That's 14 states out of 50 who either don't discriminate or mostly don't discriminate against same-sex couples. I'd say that that's quite a bit of discrimination.

That said, the level of discrimination has no bearing on the fact that I have provided you with the requested source, while you have not reciprocated. Either provide a source in your reply to my post, or admit that gays weren't offered the exact same deal as heterosexual couples, but refused it.

I did not say exact same.
I said they got the same things.
(que the your full of crap rebuttle)And your turn

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

That is not a source. That is an opinion.
A very dumb opinion with no basis in reality.

Restricting the mentally ill from owning guns is discrimination that people accept and are fine with.(most would not consider it discrimination)

Because the mentally ill carrying guns is a threat to public safety. How is gays having equal rights a threat to anyone other than the bigots and homophobes like you who just can't stand to see someone who doesn't fit into your narrow world view being treated as equal?

[Dumb Ideologies]

Did you go out and measure that with your discriminatometer?

Because I live around gay people.SO I actually talk to them.Do you?Or is it all in your head?Is it all what the internet and media show you?

Have you asked them about their experience of discrimination? Tried to get a national picture somehow?

Anecdotal evidence isn't the most highly prized form of data.

[Lessnt]

A saftey issue that discriminates.

There's no prejudice component!

There is.
AS a mentally ill person the general public understands very little about the mentally ill and use pre judice.

[Juristonia]

24 states have anti-gay legislation in place. Another 7 don't recognise same-sex relationships in any way, shape or form (aka no same sex de facto relationships are recognised). Only six states, plus DC, allow for same-sex marriages, while 8 allow for a civil union/recognise out of state marriages. That's 14 states out of 50 who either don't discriminate or mostly don't discriminate against same-sex couples. I'd say that that's quite a bit of discrimination.

That said, the level of discrimination has no bearing on the fact that I have provided you with the requested source, while you have not reciprocated. Either provide a source in your reply to my post, or admit that gays weren't offered the exact same deal as heterosexual couples, but refused it.

I did not say exact same.
I said they got the same things.
(que the your full of crap rebuttle)And your turn

The same things generally mean the same things.
And you still haven't proven that point, or any other one for that matter.

[Lessnt]

Because I live around gay people.SO I actually talk to them.Do you?Or is it all in your head?Is it all what the internet and media show you?

Have you asked them about their experience of discrimination? Tried to get a national picture somehow?

Anecdotal evidence isn't the most highly prized form of data.

Wheres your data coming from?
Your....imagination only what you can interpret on the internet?

[The free thinking few]

There's no prejudice component!

There is.
AS a mentally ill person the general public understands very little about the mentally ill and use pre judice.

Yeah, and drunk people should be allowed to drive

[Lessnt]

I did not say exact same.
I said they got the same things.
(que the your full of crap rebuttle)And your turn

The same things generally mean the same things.
And you still haven't proven that point, or any other one for that matter.

I do not trust your source.There I said it.

[Mr Bananagrabber]

There's no prejudice component!

There is.
AS a mentally ill person the general public understands very little about the mentally ill and use pre judice.

When you say "AS a mentally ill person", is that supposed to mean "I am a mentally ill person"? Because that would explain a lot.

[Juristonia]

There's no prejudice component!

There is.
AS a mentally ill person the general public understands very little about the mentally ill and use pre judice.

Luckily the general public doesn't get to decide when someone is mentally ill.
Trained professionals do.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Have you asked them about their experience of discrimination? Tried to get a national picture somehow?

Anecdotal evidence isn't the most highly prized form of data.

Wheres your data coming from?
Your....imagination only what you can interpret on the internet?

No, no. You're the one trying to disprove the commonly held belief that gays are still widely discriminated against.

You need to provide the evidence. Burden of proof works that way.

[Lessnt]

There is.
AS a mentally ill person the general public understands very little about the mentally ill and use pre judice.

Yeah, and drunk people should be allowed to drive

THe public has a much better understanding of drunk people than they do of the mentally ill.
Given your post I would guess you know little to nothing and only know what the media shows.

[Munathanura]

24 states have anti-gay legislation in place. Another 7 don't recognise same-sex relationships in any way, shape or form (aka no same sex de facto relationships are recognised). Only six states, plus DC, allow for same-sex marriages, while 8 allow for a civil union/recognise out of state marriages. That's 14 states out of 50 who either don't discriminate or mostly don't discriminate against same-sex couples. I'd say that that's quite a bit of discrimination.

That said, the level of discrimination has no bearing on the fact that I have provided you with the requested source, while you have not reciprocated. Either provide a source in your reply to my post, or admit that gays weren't offered the exact same deal as heterosexual couples, but refused it.

I did not say exact same.
I said they got the same things.
(que the your full of crap rebuttle)And your turn

If they got the same things, then how is that different from them getting the exact same thing?

And, by your lack of a source, can I take it that you have no evidence to back up your assertions? If so, give us a link. If not, then I'm going to regard this battle as having won by myself and everyone who doesn't think that gays turned down something that would have given them the same rights as a heterosexual couple.

[Juristonia]

The same things generally mean the same things.
And you still haven't proven that point, or any other one for that matter.

I do not trust your source.There I said it.

I haven't posted a source cause I haven't made any claims.
I've merely asked you to prove your claims, which you still haven't managed to do.

[Lessnt]

Wheres your data coming from?
Your....imagination only what you can interpret on the internet?

No, no. You're the one trying to disprove the commonly held belief that gays are still widely discriminated against.

You need to provide the evidence.

That isnt what I have been saying.

[Lessnt]

I do not trust your source.There I said it.

I haven't posted a source cause I haven't made any claims.
I've merely asked you to prove your claims, which you still haven't managed to do.

My mistake.
I do not trust the source provided and I have thus dismissed it.
You have made claims.
For example you claimed you have made no claims.

[The free thinking few]

Yeah, and drunk people should be allowed to drive

THe public has a much better understanding of drunk people than they do of the mentally ill.
Given your post I would guess you know little to nothing and only know what the media shows.

Actually i have a lot of experience with the mentally ill. 3 cousins in fact.

1 of them is no longer allowed near sharp objects since he chopped off his finger