In this particular case? Because you're suggesting that informed consensual sex between consenting adults is somehow equivalent to non-consenting sex between non-consenting 'non-adults'.
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by Grave_n_idle » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:35 am

by New England and The Maritimes » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:36 am
Lessnt wrote:Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
It's not. Let's stop discriminating against everybody please. So now what's the argument? "People are paying more attention to some issues than others, so let's not solve any of the issues"?
Gay rights block out other issues from the public which hurt their cause.It sets them back.Is that right.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Grave_n_idle » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:36 am
Lessnt wrote:Munathanura wrote:
I apologise for that, actually. I misread your comment, which is very similar to things said by various anti-gay groups (aka that homosexuality is a mental illness), but I'd posted before I realised my mistake. I'd have edited it out, but the way the thread's moving it wouldn't have done any good.
In any case, I'm still waiting on that source. Actually, two sources, now, since Grave_n_idle provided a source to prove that the state can marry someone as opposed to the church.
Still waiting on the person who made the claim to provide a source.

by Dumb Ideologies » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:37 am

by Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:37 am
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Lessnt wrote:Gay rights block out other issues from the public which hurt their cause.It sets them back.Is that right.
I really can't come up with words or images to describe exactly how bad of an argument you've been making. Suffice to say, your posts are bad and you should feel bad!

by Buffett and Colbert » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:37 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:If someone were to ask me about your online persona as a standard of your "date-ability", I'd rate you as "worth investigating further & passionate about beliefs". But, enough of the idle speculation on why you didn't score with the opposite gender.

by Grave_n_idle » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:37 am

by Juristonia » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:38 am
Lessnt wrote:Munathanura wrote:
Well, can I at least have my source, then, since I provided a source for my claim that people in same-sex relationships are being discriminated against?
I dont believe it to be discrimination on a level that would be considered discrimination.(by most people and by comparrison to certain laws)
Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.
And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.

by Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:38 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Lessnt wrote:Or block it out since it has so much opposition.(it will take many years)
And prioritize more important issues.
Who gets to decide which form of discrimination is more important? How long would it take to force something else up onto the agenda to the extent that it could be at the forefront of politics? No, let's continue dealing with items of discrimination that we've managed to get onto the agenda and seek to gradually improve society as we always have, rather than unrealistically demanding that everything get sorted at once.

by Grave_n_idle » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:39 am
Lessnt wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Who gets to decide which form of discrimination is more important? How long would it take to force something else up onto the agenda to the extent that it could be at the forefront of politics? No, let's continue dealing with items of discrimination that we've managed to get onto the agenda and seek to gradually improve society as we always have, rather than unrealistically demanding that everything get sorted at once.
I disagree.

by The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:39 am
Lessnt wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Who gets to decide which form of discrimination is more important? How long would it take to force something else up onto the agenda to the extent that it could be at the forefront of politics? No, let's continue dealing with items of discrimination that we've managed to get onto the agenda and seek to gradually improve society as we always have, rather than unrealistically demanding that everything get sorted at once.
I disagree.
Gay activists have been at it for a very long time with little to no progress each year.
There are real people feeling physical pain because of some discrimination.

by Dumb Ideologies » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:39 am
Lessnt wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Who gets to decide which form of discrimination is more important? How long would it take to force something else up onto the agenda to the extent that it could be at the forefront of politics? No, let's continue dealing with items of discrimination that we've managed to get onto the agenda and seek to gradually improve society as we always have, rather than unrealistically demanding that everything get sorted at once.
I disagree.
Gay activists have been at it for a very long time with little to no progress each year.
There are real people feeling physical pain because of some discrimination.

by New England and The Maritimes » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:40 am
Lessnt wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Who gets to decide which form of discrimination is more important? How long would it take to force something else up onto the agenda to the extent that it could be at the forefront of politics? No, let's continue dealing with items of discrimination that we've managed to get onto the agenda and seek to gradually improve society as we always have, rather than unrealistically demanding that everything get sorted at once.
I disagree.
Gay activists have been at it for a very long time with little to no progress each year.
There are real people feeling physical pain because of some discrimination.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:40 am
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Lessnt wrote:I disagree.
Gay activists have been at it for a very long time with little to no progress each year.
There are real people feeling physical pain because of some discrimination.
Yeah, we should be focusing on real people as opposed to homosexuals, who aren't real people. Or people at all. Does this mean it's ok to eat them?

by The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:41 am

by Dumb Ideologies » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:42 am
The free thinking few wrote:Lessnt wrote:Restricting the mentally ill from owning guns is discrimination that people accept and are fine with.(most would not consider it discrimination)
If they are proven to be mentally incapable to make important decisions, most sane people would not want them deciding wheather or not to pull the trigger in there direction

by Mr Bananagrabber » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:42 am

by Juristonia » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:42 am
Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.
And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.

by Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:42 am
The free thinking few wrote:Lessnt wrote:Restricting the mentally ill from owning guns is discrimination that people accept and are fine with.(most would not consider it discrimination)
If they are proven to be mentally incapable to make important decisions, most sane people would not want them deciding wheather or not to pull the trigger in there direction

by The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:43 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:The free thinking few wrote:If they are proven to be mentally incapable to make important decisions, most sane people would not want them deciding wheather or not to pull the trigger in there direction
I'm eagerly waiting to see the analogy that's going to be made between this and forbidding gays to marry.
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