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Postby Juristonia » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:24 am

Lessnt wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Yes, but is this what you are asking me to prove? Because you really shouldn't be debating on a topic if you don't know such basic things.

I wish for you to go out of your way to prove your claim.


And we wish for you to only make the slight effort of proving yours, which are apparently so clear that everyone should know them already.
Feel free to oblige and maybe the rest of us will be more likely to prove the blatantly obvious to you, since you seem to have trouble grasping it.
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Postby Munathanura » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:24 am

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Munathanura wrote:
http://www.freedomtomarry.org/states/

I count 6 states, plus Washington DC, where gay marriage is legal, and seven states where there is a civil union. A whopping 24 states actually have anti-gay legislation in place, and a further 7 where there is no protection for same-sex couples. Yeah, I'd say that same-sex couples are discriminated against in America.

The mentally ill are being discriminated against.
The stupid are being discriminated against.
Need I continue?
Who should get the priorities?


You've sure changed your tune.

Lessnt wrote:Race and sexual preference are two different things.
I suppose we should treat all sexual preferences equally.


Lessnt wrote:
The free thinking few wrote:why not? Its there sexuality so why cant you respect that

Nothing wrong with it.
I assumed you would.
Good luck making it all equal though.


Whelp, in any case, I've now given you a source. I suppose you have one for me in return?
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:24 am

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'Popular' is a relative term, that adapts it's meaning to it's circumstances.

In this particular instance, it means "the same stupid crap that was horseshit the last time it was trotted out, too".

That is not how I was using it.


You were trotting out the same horseshit, so I guess you were using it that way, even without knowing it.
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:25 am

Horsefish wrote:
Lessnt wrote:The mentally ill are being discriminated against.
The stupid are being discriminated against.
Need I continue?
Who should get the priorities?


How can stupid people be discriminated against? Stupid isn't a social group and is genrally subjective for the peoples intelligence.

To clarify retards.
That has a clear defining group.
But retard is a very bad word.Very insulting.They do so dislike it.

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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:25 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Lessnt wrote:That is not how I was using it.


You were trotting out the same horseshit, so I guess you were using it that way, even without knowing it.

why is it horse****?

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:26 am

Lessnt wrote:
Horsefish wrote:
How can stupid people be discriminated against? Stupid isn't a social group and is genrally subjective for the peoples intelligence.

To clarify retards.
That has a clear defining group.
But retard is a very bad word.Very insulting.They do so dislike it.


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Postby Mr Bananagrabber » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:26 am

Lessnt wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
http://www.freedomtomarry.org/states/

I count 6 states, plus Washington DC, where gay marriage is legal, and seven states where there is a civil union. A whopping 24 states actually have anti-gay legislation in place, and a further 7 where there is no protection for same-sex couples. Yeah, I'd say that same-sex couples are discriminated against in America.

The mentally ill are being discriminated against.
The stupid are being discriminated against.
Need I continue?
Who should get the priorities?


What even is that argument? "It's happening to other people (debatable) so it's cool to do it to anybody"? :eyebrow:
"I guess it would just be a guy who, you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or a banana that grabs things. I don't know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer."

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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:26 am

Munathanura wrote:
Lessnt wrote:The mentally ill are being discriminated against.
The stupid are being discriminated against.
Need I continue?
Who should get the priorities?


You've sure changed your tune.

Lessnt wrote:Race and sexual preference are two different things.
I suppose we should treat all sexual preferences equally.


Lessnt wrote:Nothing wrong with it.
I assumed you would.
Good luck making it all equal though.


Whelp, in any case, I've now given you a source. I suppose you have one for me in return?

I really dont understand where your going.
Or were you trying to take quotes out of context without the entire arguement?

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Postby Tekania » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:27 am

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
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right. cause the kid first and foremost needs to show respect for someone who says he is a sexual deviant and is going to hell. you sir are..... i just cant put into words how stupid i think you are.

My apologies for believing someone can voice their opinion respectfully even in the face of bigotry.


He was being respectful, since it would indeed be within his rights as a patriotic to shoot unrepentant treasonous scum like Bachmann.
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:27 am

Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
Lessnt wrote:The mentally ill are being discriminated against.
The stupid are being discriminated against.
Need I continue?
Who should get the priorities?


What even is that argument? "It's happening to other people (debatable) so it's cool to do it to anybody"? :eyebrow:

It is not cool.But why is it right to focus on this and ignore the others?(they are being largely ignored by the populace)

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Postby Mr Bananagrabber » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:29 am

Lessnt wrote:
Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
What even is that argument? "It's happening to other people (debatable) so it's cool to do it to anybody"? :eyebrow:

It is not cool.But why is it right to focus on this and ignore the others?(they are being largely ignored by the populace)


It's not. Let's stop discriminating against everybody please. So now what's the argument? "People are paying more attention to some issues than others, so let's not solve any of the issues"?
"I guess it would just be a guy who, you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or a banana that grabs things. I don't know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer."

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Postby Munathanura » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:30 am

Lessnt wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
You've sure changed your tune.





Whelp, in any case, I've now given you a source. I suppose you have one for me in return?

I really dont understand where your going.
Or were you trying to take quotes out of context without the entire arguement?


I apologise for that, actually. I misread your comment, which is very similar to things said by various anti-gay groups (aka that homosexuality is a mental illness), but I'd posted before I realised my mistake. I'd have edited it out, but the way the thread's moving it wouldn't have done any good.

In any case, I'm still waiting on that source. Actually, two sources, now, since Grave_n_idle provided a source to prove that the state can marry someone as opposed to the church.
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:30 am

Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
Lessnt wrote:It is not cool.But why is it right to focus on this and ignore the others?(they are being largely ignored by the populace)


It's not. Let's stop discriminating against everybody please. So now what's the argument? "People are paying more attention to some issues than others, so let's not solve any of the issues"?

Gay rights block out other issues from the public which hurt their cause.It sets them back.Is that right.

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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:32 am

Munathanura wrote:
Lessnt wrote:I really dont understand where your going.
Or were you trying to take quotes out of context without the entire arguement?


I apologise for that, actually. I misread your comment, which is very similar to things said by various anti-gay groups (aka that homosexuality is a mental illness), but I'd posted before I realised my mistake. I'd have edited it out, but the way the thread's moving it wouldn't have done any good.

In any case, I'm still waiting on that source. Actually, two sources, now, since Grave_n_idle provided a source to prove that the state can marry someone as opposed to the church.

Still waiting on the person who made the claim to provide a source.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:32 am

Lessnt wrote:
Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
It's not. Let's stop discriminating against everybody please. So now what's the argument? "People are paying more attention to some issues than others, so let's not solve any of the issues"?

Gay rights block out other issues from the public which hurt their cause.It sets them back.Is that right.


Well, we better get gay rights awarded jolly quick so we can move on to dealing with other forms of discrimination.
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:33 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Lessnt wrote:Gay rights block out other issues from the public which hurt their cause.It sets them back.Is that right.


Well, we better get gay rights awarded jolly quick so we can move on to dealing with other forms of discrimination.

Or block it out since it has so much opposition.(it will take many years)
And prioritize more important issues.

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Postby Vassguard » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:33 am

Their hypocrisy has done it to themselves, as that young man pointed out. They don't seem very Presidential if all they do is run or allow themselves to be bogged down in an argument.

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Postby Mr Bananagrabber » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:33 am

Lessnt wrote:
Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
It's not. Let's stop discriminating against everybody please. So now what's the argument? "People are paying more attention to some issues than others, so let's not solve any of the issues"?

Gay rights block out other issues from the public which hurt their cause.It sets them back.Is that right.


Ahh what? That makes no sense to me. Care to explain further?
"I guess it would just be a guy who, you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or a banana that grabs things. I don't know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer."

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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:34 am

Vassguard wrote:Their hypocrisy has done it to themselves, as that young man pointed out. They don't seem very Presidential if all they do is run or allow themselves to be bogged down in an argument.

Like obama?

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Postby Tekania » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:34 am

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Broncanus wrote:and how do you expect a 17 year old homosexual man to contact miss bachmann for a sit down chat about her anti-gay views? how is he supposed to voice his concern over her removing social justice? sadly the only time a politician will talk about a "real issue" with someone who is directly effected by said issue is when that person goes to there rally and shouts at them.

That is completely disingenuous, considering he did not have any form of a conversation with Mrs. Bachmann and I doubt he intended to. It's completely unnecessary to have to speak with her as it is; she will never change her views and it accomplishes nothing. Rather, he could have voiced his opinion in a Q&A session with her, an email to her staff, an entry on a blog, participation in a rally intended for people with views similar to his own, etc.
Broncanus wrote:i dont like it at all, but to say that him saying "michelle" makes his cause less worthy or makes the supporters of his cause seem like "twerps" i just dont get it. he did nothing disrespectful expect call her by her NAME. if he said "hey shit for brains" then you would have a valid point. but this kid did nothing disrespectful.

I never said he nor his cause was twerpy. Only he gives that impression by being disrespectful. He does not know the woman, so when addressing her he should make the appropriate reference.


Bachmann works for him, and he feels she does things in direct opposition to his rights as a citizen. He is addressing him with as much respect as she deserves.
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:34 am

Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
Lessnt wrote:Gay rights block out other issues from the public which hurt their cause.It sets them back.Is that right.


Ahh what? That makes no sense to me. Care to explain further?

DO you understand how the government is pressured into making specific laws?

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Postby Munathanura » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:34 am

Lessnt wrote:
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I apologise for that, actually. I misread your comment, which is very similar to things said by various anti-gay groups (aka that homosexuality is a mental illness), but I'd posted before I realised my mistake. I'd have edited it out, but the way the thread's moving it wouldn't have done any good.

In any case, I'm still waiting on that source. Actually, two sources, now, since Grave_n_idle provided a source to prove that the state can marry someone as opposed to the church.

Still waiting on the person who made the claim to provide a source.


Well, can I at least have my source, then, since I provided a source for my claim that people in same-sex relationships are being discriminated against?
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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:35 am

Lessnt wrote:
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Well, we better get gay rights awarded jolly quick so we can move on to dealing with other forms of discrimination.

Or block it out since it has so much opposition.(it will take many years)
And prioritize more important issues.

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Postby Tekania » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:35 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You're problem with this is that he used her first name? That's where you draw the line?

It's scary for a stranger to come up to you in such a manner.


Then she's in the wrong job. Pink slip the bitch.
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Postby Mr Bananagrabber » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:35 am

Lessnt wrote:
Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
Ahh what? That makes no sense to me. Care to explain further?

DO you understand how the government is pressured into making specific laws?


By people being vocal about what they're doing wrong. I don't get the "gay rights block out other issues from the public which hurt their cause" bit.
"I guess it would just be a guy who, you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or a banana that grabs things. I don't know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer."

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