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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:22 am

Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
Lessnt wrote:You guys say gays cant marry.
I show you how gays can marry.
You say im pulling it out of my ass?
Can you really say I am the one not trying to figure out the truth?
Obviously you can since your very very biased and cannot see past it.


So to clarify, were you saying that a gay man can in fact marry a woman, and a gay woman can marry a man? Is that what you mean by "can" marry.

seems that way
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Postby Munathanura » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:22 am

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The free thinking few wrote:You clearly havent read anything posted here :palm:

That, and you really should find a slightly less biased source of imformation do to the fact that your either pulling this crap outta your ass or outta your neighbors

You guys say gays cant marry.
I show you how gays can marry.
You say im pulling it out of my ass?
Can you really say I am the one not trying to figure out the truth?
Obviously you can since your very very biased and cannot see past it.


Wait, so you have a source which showed that two members of the same gender can marry? Because that's the definition of gay marriage, just so you know. And you still haven't provided a source for your earlier claims that gays were offered equal rights to straight couples but refused them.
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:23 am

The free thinking few wrote:
Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
So to clarify, were you saying that a gay man can in fact marry a woman, and a gay woman can marry a man? Is that what you mean by "can" marry.

seems that way

Marriage is more than just contract sex.
SO say otherwise is stupid.

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:24 am

Lessnt wrote:
The free thinking few wrote:seems that way

Marriage is more than just contract sex.
SO say otherwise is stupid.

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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:24 am

Lessnt wrote:
The free thinking few wrote:seems that way

Marriage is more than just contract sex.
SO say otherwise is stupid.

:palm:

might i recommend the gerber reading program, you seem to need a touch up
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:25 am

Munathanura wrote:
Lessnt wrote:You guys say gays cant marry.
I show you how gays can marry.
You say im pulling it out of my ass?
Can you really say I am the one not trying to figure out the truth?
Obviously you can since your very very biased and cannot see past it.


Wait, so you have a source which showed that two members of the same gender can marry? Because that's the definition of gay marriage, just so you know. And you still haven't provided a source for your earlier claims that gays were offered equal rights to straight couples but refused them.

You say GAYS CANNOT MARRY(not gay marriage)
I say they can.
You say they are being discriminated against in some big way.
I say they are not.
Nothing is stopping them from marriage.(not gay marriage)
What you are doing right now is playing with words.

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:27 am

Lessnt wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
Wait, so you have a source which showed that two members of the same gender can marry? Because that's the definition of gay marriage, just so you know. And you still haven't provided a source for your earlier claims that gays were offered equal rights to straight couples but refused them.

You say GAYS CANNOT MARRY(not gay marriage)
I say they can.
You say they are being discriminated against in some big way.
I say they are not.
Nothing is stopping them from marriage.(not gay marriage)
What you are doing right now is playing with words.


What you're doing is being deliberately disingenuous because you have no argument. Neither you nor anyone else on your "side" of this argument has a real position that deserves consideration. The fact that we're even trying to argue with you is only giving you legitimacy you didn't earn and have no claim to.
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Postby Mr Bananagrabber » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:27 am

Lessnt wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
Wait, so you have a source which showed that two members of the same gender can marry? Because that's the definition of gay marriage, just so you know. And you still haven't provided a source for your earlier claims that gays were offered equal rights to straight couples but refused them.

You say GAYS CANNOT MARRY(not gay marriage)
I say they can.
You say they are being discriminated against in some big way.
I say they are not.
Nothing is stopping them from marriage.(not gay marriage)
What you are doing right now is playing with words.


OOh. You got us! We were foolishly using the phrase "gay marriage" as being synonymous with "same-sex marriage" as is common in our vernacular. Luckily your pedantry was there to show us the error of saying things commonly understood by other people. :palm:
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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:28 am

Lessnt wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
Wait, so you have a source which showed that two members of the same gender can marry? Because that's the definition of gay marriage, just so you know. And you still haven't provided a source for your earlier claims that gays were offered equal rights to straight couples but refused them.

You say GAYS CANNOT MARRY(not gay marriage)
I say they can.
You say they are being discriminated against in some big way.
I say they are not.
Nothing is stopping them from marriage.(not gay marriage)
What you are doing right now is playing with words.

lessnt uses false logic

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Postby Munathanura » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:28 am

Lessnt wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
Wait, so you have a source which showed that two members of the same gender can marry? Because that's the definition of gay marriage, just so you know. And you still haven't provided a source for your earlier claims that gays were offered equal rights to straight couples but refused them.

You say GAYS CANNOT MARRY(not gay marriage)
I say they can.
You say they are being discriminated against in some big way.
I say they are not.
Nothing is stopping them from marriage.(not gay marriage)
What you are doing right now is playing with words.


I could say the same to you. Tell me, do you honestly hear "We want to marry someone of the opposite sex but want special treatment so we're going to kick up a fuss" when a gay couple says "we want to marry and make our de facto relationship legitimate in the eyes of the government?"? Because otherwise I don't see how you can thinking that gays not being able to marry isn't a reference to gay marriage.

And, as yet, you have not provided any source that shows that gays are allowed to marry their partner, who is of the same gender as they are, and that they have the exact same rights as a straight married couple after doing so.
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Postby HumanSanity » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:30 am

Washington was once meant to be a world of more Policy than Politics. Now it is a world of more Politics than Policy. Bachmann couldn't, as far as I can tell, come up with an argument against this so she simply fled. It is hard as of late to have an actual conversation with someone about Politics/Policy.

As far as I am concerned whatever reason Christians come up with that Gay Marriage ought to be outlawed is centered around a God and we have a certain thing called 'Separation between Church and State' and also that someone else being Gay doesn't effect you PERIOD, I don't see any way how it does. A person has no right to enforce their belief on someone else, especially one like this when no-one is harmed.
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:34 am

Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
Lessnt wrote:You say GAYS CANNOT MARRY(not gay marriage)
I say they can.
You say they are being discriminated against in some big way.
I say they are not.
Nothing is stopping them from marriage.(not gay marriage)
What you are doing right now is playing with words.


OOh. You got us! We were foolishly using the phrase "gay marriage" as being synonymous with "same-sex marriage" as is common in our vernacular. Luckily your pedantry was there to show us the error of saying things commonly understood by other people. :palm:

your using marriage and gay marriage as the same.
Gay people can marry.

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Postby Mr Bananagrabber » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:36 am

Lessnt wrote:
Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
OOh. You got us! We were foolishly using the phrase "gay marriage" as being synonymous with "same-sex marriage" as is common in our vernacular. Luckily your pedantry was there to show us the error of saying things commonly understood by other people. :palm:

your using marriage and gay marriage as the same.
Gay people can marry.


Yeah yeah. Well pardon us for using a phrase that everybody who's not a pedantic dickhole understands. From now on we can use the term "same-sex marriage" if you please. :roll:
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:36 am

Munathanura wrote:
Lessnt wrote:You say GAYS CANNOT MARRY(not gay marriage)
I say they can.
You say they are being discriminated against in some big way.
I say they are not.
Nothing is stopping them from marriage.(not gay marriage)
What you are doing right now is playing with words.


I could say the same to you. Tell me, do you honestly hear "We want to marry someone of the opposite sex but want special treatment so we're going to kick up a fuss" when a gay couple says "we want to marry and make our de facto relationship legitimate in the eyes of the government?"? Because otherwise I don't see how you can thinking that gays not being able to marry isn't a reference to gay marriage.

And, as yet, you have not provided any source that shows that gays are allowed to marry their partner, who is of the same gender as they are, and that they have the exact same rights as a straight married couple after doing so.

Many laws have been proposed by the eyes of government to legitimize their same sex relationship.IT WAS TURNED DOWN.
It is an attack on traditional marriage.(it is true....)
Everything marriage offers was handed to them on a silver plate.They refused so they are often left with nothing.(their choice)

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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:38 am

Lessnt wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
I could say the same to you. Tell me, do you honestly hear "We want to marry someone of the opposite sex but want special treatment so we're going to kick up a fuss" when a gay couple says "we want to marry and make our de facto relationship legitimate in the eyes of the government?"? Because otherwise I don't see how you can thinking that gays not being able to marry isn't a reference to gay marriage.

And, as yet, you have not provided any source that shows that gays are allowed to marry their partner, who is of the same gender as they are, and that they have the exact same rights as a straight married couple after doing so.

Many laws have been proposed by the eyes of government to legitimize their same sex relationship.IT WAS TURNED DOWN.
It is an attack on traditional marriage.(it is true....)
Everything marriage offers was handed to them on a silver plate.They refused so they are often left with nothing.(their choice)

post one source with such imformation that isnt a complete joke, and we will believe you
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Postby Mr Bananagrabber » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:39 am

Lessnt wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
I could say the same to you. Tell me, do you honestly hear "We want to marry someone of the opposite sex but want special treatment so we're going to kick up a fuss" when a gay couple says "we want to marry and make our de facto relationship legitimate in the eyes of the government?"? Because otherwise I don't see how you can thinking that gays not being able to marry isn't a reference to gay marriage.

And, as yet, you have not provided any source that shows that gays are allowed to marry their partner, who is of the same gender as they are, and that they have the exact same rights as a straight married couple after doing so.

Many laws have been proposed by the eyes of government to legitimize their same sex relationship.IT WAS TURNED DOWN.
It is an attack on traditional marriage.(it is true....)
Everything marriage offers was handed to them on a silver plate.They refused so they are often left with nothing.(their choice)


What possible non-bigoted reason do you have to oppose letting the union be called a marriage? The same argument applies to you. If it's identical to marriage in every other way, why is the name "marriage" so important to you?
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:41 am

The free thinking few wrote:
Lessnt wrote:Many laws have been proposed by the eyes of government to legitimize their same sex relationship.IT WAS TURNED DOWN.
It is an attack on traditional marriage.(it is true....)
Everything marriage offers was handed to them on a silver plate.They refused so they are often left with nothing.(their choice)

post one source with such imformation that isnt a complete joke, and we will believe you

Do you not ****ing pay attention to the gay rights movement at all?
Are you joking?Because I am way too tired and lazy for that right now.
Jeez can you be anymore ignorant?
Look at california.WE have been at it for quite some time.(years)
Look it all up if you really do not believe me.

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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:42 am

Lessnt wrote:
The free thinking few wrote:post one source with such imformation that isnt a complete joke, and we will believe you

Do you not ****ing pay attention to the gay rights movement at all?
Are you joking?Because I am way too tired and lazy for that right now.
Jeez can you be anymore ignorant?
Look at california.WE have been at it for quite some time.(years)
Look it all up if you really do not believe me.

its offiicial, your pulling this all outta your ass.

Have fun fondling your shit
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:43 am

The free thinking few wrote:
Lessnt wrote:Do you not ****ing pay attention to the gay rights movement at all?
Are you joking?Because I am way too tired and lazy for that right now.
Jeez can you be anymore ignorant?
Look at california.WE have been at it for quite some time.(years)
Look it all up if you really do not believe me.

its offiicial, your pulling this all outta your ass.

Have fun fondling your shit

Checkmate.
Your not looking for the truth.

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Postby Munathanura » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:44 am

Lessnt wrote:
The free thinking few wrote:post one source with such imformation that isnt a complete joke, and we will believe you

Do you not ****ing pay attention to the gay rights movement at all?
Are you joking?Because I am way too tired and lazy for that right now.
Jeez can you be anymore ignorant?
Look at california.WE have been at it for quite some time.(years)
Look it all up if you really do not believe me.


Sorry, we're all too lazy to trawl through who knows how many web pages in an attempt to find your sources. If it's so easy to find proof that you're right, then why not post a couple of links here? Specifically, we're after a source that gays were offered the exact same rights and recognition that married straight couples have, but turned it down because they wanted to be treated specially.
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Postby Bottle » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:45 am

Lessnt wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
Wait, so you have a source which showed that two members of the same gender can marry? Because that's the definition of gay marriage, just so you know. And you still haven't provided a source for your earlier claims that gays were offered equal rights to straight couples but refused them.

You say GAYS CANNOT MARRY(not gay marriage)
I say they can.
You say they are being discriminated against in some big way.
I say they are not.
Nothing is stopping them from marriage.(not gay marriage)
What you are doing right now is playing with words.

That is precisely the same argument that was made by people who insisted that it wasn't discrimination to ban interracial marriage, because a black man could marry a black woman and a white man could marry a white woman and therefore everyone had "equal rights."

That argument was rejected by the Supreme Court before I was born.

So not only are you not clever for thinking of this, you're actually anti-clever because you're using an argument that was shredded publicly DECADES ago. That's like walking around bragging about how you invented this brand new kind of humor where a guy slips on a banana peel.
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Postby Mr Bananagrabber » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:46 am

Lessnt wrote:
The free thinking few wrote:its offiicial, your pulling this all outta your ass.

Have fun fondling your shit

Checkmate.
Your not looking for the truth.


Wasn't a link to the truth asked for but not produced? :unsure:
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Postby Lessnt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:47 am

Bottle wrote:
Lessnt wrote:You say GAYS CANNOT MARRY(not gay marriage)
I say they can.
You say they are being discriminated against in some big way.
I say they are not.
Nothing is stopping them from marriage.(not gay marriage)
What you are doing right now is playing with words.

That is precisely the same argument that was made by people who insisted that it wasn't discrimination to ban interracial marriage, because a black man could marry a black woman and a white man could marry a white woman and therefore everyone had "equal rights."

That argument was rejected by the Supreme Court before I was born.

So not only are you not clever for thinking of this, you're actually anti-clever because you're using an argument that was shredded publicly DECADES ago. That's like walking around bragging about how you invented this brand new kind of humor where a guy slips on a banana peel.

Race and sexual preference are two different things.
I suppose we should treat all sexual preferences equally.

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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:48 am

Lessnt wrote:
Bottle wrote:That is precisely the same argument that was made by people who insisted that it wasn't discrimination to ban interracial marriage, because a black man could marry a black woman and a white man could marry a white woman and therefore everyone had "equal rights."

That argument was rejected by the Supreme Court before I was born.

So not only are you not clever for thinking of this, you're actually anti-clever because you're using an argument that was shredded publicly DECADES ago. That's like walking around bragging about how you invented this brand new kind of humor where a guy slips on a banana peel.

Race and sexual preference are two different things.
I suppose we should treat all sexual preferences equally.

thats sorta what we are talking about yes.

You just announced you were a bigot, way to go!
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Postby Bottle » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:48 am

Lessnt wrote:
Bottle wrote:That is precisely the same argument that was made by people who insisted that it wasn't discrimination to ban interracial marriage, because a black man could marry a black woman and a white man could marry a white woman and therefore everyone had "equal rights."

That argument was rejected by the Supreme Court before I was born.

So not only are you not clever for thinking of this, you're actually anti-clever because you're using an argument that was shredded publicly DECADES ago. That's like walking around bragging about how you invented this brand new kind of humor where a guy slips on a banana peel.

Race and sexual preference are two different things.
I suppose we should treat all sexual preferences equally.

Yep, back then the antis would say "race isn't like age, just because we let people of different ages marry doesn't mean we can let different RACES marry!"

Got any arguments from this millennium?
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