Worst Health Care system in the world

[New Ziedrich]

They're classics of the art of propaganda.

That I do not agree with the ideas they espouse does not change that fact.

Duly noted.

[Moreau Catholic High]

Here, it's Duke Energy; Pike-Gibson Water, Inc.; Verizon; Vectren; and Verizon again (I live out in the boonies, so I use dialup Internet at home).

Which are regulated by the ebil government. Your internet was developed by the Department of Defense. Your roads are paved by the government. You have electricity given to you by companies owned by the government and regulated by the government. The list goes on.

[Milks Empire]

According to the dipshits here its the USA, yea the USA is apparently worse than Myanmar.

Do you ever get sick of flaming?

You realize this poll has an ''other'' option, other means every place in the world not already listed in the world. So how am I wrong to call someone who thinks nations like Myanmar and the Sudan have better healthcare than the USA dipshits, explain it to me please.

Do you even know what flaming is? Allow me to show you, straight from the One Stop Rules Shop...

Flame: Expressing anger at someone in uncouth ways with OOC (out-of-character) comments (i.e. swearing, being obnoxious, threatening etc). It does to watch what you post IC (in-character) as well unless the other posters know you're not serious. You do not need to curse to be a flamer. Erudite slams while maintaining a veneer of politeness can also be considered flaming. Flaming in the forums should be reported in the Moderation forum, in the game itself, through Getting Help Page.

The bolded parts in your posts are the instances of flaming I'm talking about.

[Rolling squid]

Here, it's Duke Energy; Pike-Gibson Water, Inc.; Verizon; Vectren; and Verizon again (I live out in the boonies, so I use dialup Internet at home).

They generate the power, and manage some of the infrastructure. But the Utility poles that run all the wires? Those were built, and are maintained by the government. Same with the water and gas mains. And you have yet to rebut government subsidiaries to petrochemical companies, and government owned and operated ports. Not to mention the fact that every bit of food on your local supermarket shelf wouldn't be there without some sort of government money.

[Bluth Corporation]

Here, it's Duke Energy; Pike-Gibson Water, Inc.; Verizon; Vectren; and Verizon again (I live out in the boonies, so I use dialup Internet at home).

Which are regulated by the ebil government.

Not legitimately, and in fact the government is antagonistic to them so you can hardly say the government is responsible for me having them.

Your internet was developed by the Department of Defense.

A myth that any history text (as in, a real live book that you go and hold in your hands) on the subject will quickly dispell.

Your roads are paved by the government.

Dealt with in an earlier post.

You have electricity given to you by companies owned by the government and regulated by the government.

See above.

[Bluth Corporation]

Here, it's Duke Energy; Pike-Gibson Water, Inc.; Verizon; Vectren; and Verizon again (I live out in the boonies, so I use dialup Internet at home).

They generate the power, and manage some of the infrastructure. But the Utility poles that run all the wires? Those were built, and are maintained by the government.

No, they weren't; and no, they aren't.

Same with the water and gas mains.

Again, not the case.

And you have yet to rebut government subsidiaries to petrochemical companies, and government owned and operated ports. Not to mention the fact that every bit of food on your local supermarket shelf wouldn't be there without some sort of government money.

I've dealt with that already; perhaps you should read the entire thread.

[Rhodmhire]

You realize this poll has an ''other'' option, other means every place in the world not already listed in the world. So how am I wrong to call someone who thinks nations like Myanmar and the Sudan have better healthcare than the USA dipshits, explain it to me please. Though I never get sick of calling stupid people, out.

"Hey Rhodmhire."

"Oh hey Eugene Zolo, what's up."

"Nothing dipshit."

"What kind of thing is that to say?"

"Well, I have a different opinion, and am calling you out on it."

"Well, you probably have good reason to disagree, and I'm not oppressing your freedom of speech, but why use dipshits?"

"Because I'm showing myself off as stupid because I have to revert to drastic measures of utilizing swears to get my point across instead of forming an intelligent remark to flaunt my supposed intellect?"

"Exactly."

[CanuckHeaven]

For me not USA. But they do have the worst Health Care system in the developed world.

Disclaimer:

* You may enter this thread only when you're older than 12 year old or accompanied by your parents.

As much as I believe that the US healthcare system(s) suck the big wazoo.....it is obvious that it isn't the worst healtcare system in the world.

The only logical vote is: OTHER

[Eugene Zolo]

Do you even know what flaming is? Allow me to show you, straight from the One Stop Rules Shop...

I do know what flaming is, however, if I have to flame to point out how stupid someone is being than so be it. You can make me, calling people who blindly hate the USA and therefor vote that the US is the worst in various areas, an issue if you want. I know you're probably one of the dipshits who voted the USA has the worst healthcare in the world, thats probably what got your panties up in a bunch.

[Samatolian City-States]

Worst healthcare in the world would likely go to... Maybe Somalia, I hear they have an effective anarchy.

[Moreau Catholic High]

So you'd rather go without services provided by the government than pay taxes. Well, at least you're consistent.

But in all seriousness, suck it up. The fact of the matter is, you live in something called society. While you are a member of society, you are expected to contribute to the general welfare of the group, and not just promote yourself at all costs. You are expected to sacrifice some of your gain for the good of those who cannot support themselves, because the last time I checked, taking care of others ranked higher than gaining material goods on the list of priorities of humanity as a species.

Here's the problem I have with pure laissez-faire capitalists like you. You value your own money, (which is essentially a piece of paper with an arbitrary value assigned to it), over the lives and well being of others. You would rather let people starve, or go without essential services, than give up a 1/100th of a piece of random paper. You make the completely idiotic and unfounded the claim that the free market is a magical force for good that can defy the laws of reality. You refuse to accept that people who need help should have it given to them, and simplify their suffering down to "laziness".

In short, you are selfish, greedy, and inflexible. You put more value on property than on human life and well being, and for that, I spit on you.

[Milks Empire]

I do know what flaming is, however, if I have to flame to point out how stupid someone is being than so be it.

Then I suppose the mods warning and banning you for flaming is hunky-dory by you. Because they've warned and banned for flaming before and they will do it again.

I know you're probably one of the dipshits who voted the USA has the worst healthcare in the world, thats probably what got your panties up in a bunch.

Well then, I can safely say that you don't know jack. I did not vote in the poll at all. And seriously, drop the flaming or the mods will come for you.

[Rolling squid]

I've dealt with that already; perhaps you should read the entire thread.

All you said is "not payed for by taxes", which very close to sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "I can't hear you". Almost every aspect of modern life is only possible due to taxes, and to say anything else is kidding yourself.

[Bluth Corporation]

So you'd rather go without services provided by the government than pay taxes. Well, at least you're consistent.

But in all seriousness, suck it up. The fact of the matter is, you live in something called society.

Nope, no such thing exists.

In short, you are selfish, greedy, and inflexible. You put more value on property than on human life and well being, and for that, I spit on you.

I am no one's slave. I see no moral justification for arguing that I have an obligation to provide for another--in other words, for me being a slave to my fellow man. I fail to see how that could be described as anything but slavery!

You are the one who wishes to enslave men, not I.

[Tubbsalot]

Nope, no such thing exists.

Well, if there's no society, then I guess nothing's oppressing you after all. Problem solved!

[CanuckHeaven]

I have to have the only say in what happens with my money and property.

So go find yourself an uninhabited island....then you can truly be independent. Freedom!!

[Bluth Corporation]

Nope, no such thing exists.

Well, if there's no society, then I guess nothing's oppressing you after all. Problem solved!

Please don't pretend I ever said "society" was oppressing me, when I in fact never said any such thing.

[Tekania]

Do you even know what flaming is? Allow me to show you, straight from the One Stop Rules Shop...

I do know what flaming is, however, if I have to flame to point out how stupid someone is being than so be it. You can make me, calling people who blindly hate the USA and therefor vote that the US is the worst in various areas, an issue if you want. I know you're probably one of the dipshits who voted the USA has the worst healthcare in the world, thats probably what got your panties up in a bunch.

I know it seems perfectly legitimate to place epithets on other people of differing views. But it's a flame none-the-less, because usage of the label "dipshit" offers nothing to the argument, and in fact makes your argument seem less intelligent. And even further so, when you aim such an epithet upon an individual based on nothing but an assumption of their view point.

[Tubbsalot]

Please don't pretend I ever said "society" was oppressing me, when I in fact never said any such thing.

Oh, I'm sorry. It was the government oppressing you, the government which is there to support... um... nothing?

[Eugene Zolo]

You realize this poll has an ''other'' option, other means every place in the world not already listed in the world. So how am I wrong to call someone who thinks nations like Myanmar and the Sudan have better healthcare than the USA dipshits, explain it to me please. Though I never get sick of calling stupid people, out.

"Hey Rhodmhire."

"Oh hey Eugene Zolo, what's up."

"Nothing dipshit."

"What kind of thing is that to say?"

"Well, I have a different opinion, and am calling you out on it."

"Well, you probably have good reason to disagree, and I'm not oppressing your freedom of speech, but why use dipshits?"

"Because I'm showing myself off as stupid because I have to revert to drastic measures of utilizing swears to get my point across instead of forming an intelligent remark to flaunt my supposed intellect?"

"Exactly."

You know I'm just angered by this non stop US hating. Almost every other thread on this site is directly or indirectly aimed at criticizing of the USA. When I went onto this thread I knew it was a spin off of the other US healthcare thread. It just angered me to see people so blindly hateful of the US that they would vote it worse in healthcare than every other nation in the world, rampant stupidity angers me, Rhodmhire.

[Bluth Corporation]

Please don't pretend I ever said "society" was oppressing me, when I in fact never said any such thing.

Oh, I'm sorry. It was the government oppressing you, the government which is there to support... um... nothing?

A government, or a mafia of strongmen calling itself government?

Also, your sarcastic attitude is not conducive to polite intellectual discussion. I have remained calm, polite, earnest, and honest throughout; can you not do the same?

[Tubbsalot]

A government, or a mafia of strongmen calling itself government?

Government. If it is a government of "mafia strongmen", which it is clearly not, it is still a government, and thus there to serve society. You failed to back up your "society doesn't exist" assertion there, by the way.

Also, your sarcastic attitude is not conducive to polite intellectual discussion. I have remained calm, polite, earnest, and honest throughout; can you not do the same?

I don't know why you've italicised honest. A brief misunderstanding is hardly a flat-out lie. Which, incidentally, makes me a little doubtful of your assertions of remaining calm and polite.

But of course, no, I cannot remain calm and polite as long as you continue to base your arguments on bland assertions. All I've ever seen you say is "taxation is theft", "I am my own man", "[insert libertarian talking point here]", and never have you justified any of it except with this bizarre reference to some sort of Cosmic Force which tells us What Is Right and What Is Wrong. And you've never even told us about the Cosmic Force, aside from the fact that it is perfect and objective - which I must say, is very interesting to me. I didn't know you could have an objective good when talking about inherently subjective humans, which you attempt to apply it to.

[Parthenon]

Those of you voting for America over Cuba need a serious reality check. The Cuban health care system isn't exactly what you see in the movie sicko...

NSFW, LINK TO IMAGES DEPICTING CUBA'S "WORLD CLASS" HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN ALL ITS GORY DETAIL

http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm

[Milks Empire]

A government, or a mafia of strongmen calling itself government?

Government. If it is a government of "mafia strongmen", which it is clearly not, it is still a government, and thus there to serve society. You failed to back up your "society doesn't exist" assertion there, by the way.

Also, your sarcastic attitude is not conducive to polite intellectual discussion. I have remained calm, polite, earnest, and honest throughout; can you not do the same?

I don't know why you've italicised honest. A brief misunderstanding is hardly a flat-out lie. Which, incidentally, makes me a little doubtful of your assertions of remaining calm and polite.

But of course, no, I cannot remain calm and polite as long as you continue to base your arguments on bland assertions. All I've ever seen you say is "taxation is theft", "I am my own man", "[insert libertarian talking point here]", and never have you justified any of it except with this bizarre reference to some sort of Cosmic Force which tells us What Is Right and What Is Wrong. And you've never even told us about the Cosmic Force, aside from the fact that it is perfect and objective - which I must say, is very interesting to me. I didn't know you could have an objective good when talking about inherently subjective humans, which you attempt to apply it to.

You're honestly wasting your time with Bluth. He's a broken record when it comes to this stuff.

[Rolling squid]

Please don't pretend I ever said "society" was oppressing me, when I in fact never said any such thing.

Oh, I'm sorry. It was the government oppressing you, the government which is there to support... um... nothing?

A government, or a mafia of strongmen calling itself government?

Also, your sarcastic attitude is not conducive to polite intellectual discussion. I have remained calm, polite, earnest, and honest throughout; can you not do the same?

The difference between a government and a mafia of strongmen calling itself a government are none. That's all a government has to be, a body that enforces rules with force. Most governments aren't, and allow for mandates of the masses to decide their course of action. Most governments also set limits on their own power.