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Worst Health Care system in the world

USA
32
31%
Cuba
1
1%
Europe
8
8%
Antarctica
35
34%
Other
28
27%
 
Total votes : 104

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Allbeama » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:25 pm

Bewusstsein wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:I'm not even sure if Cuba should be counted here. The country is messed up. It's like a race between a midget, a guy with no legs, and Usain Bolt.


Overall, their healthcare system was last rated, I believe, as right below us.


I think that was Turkey below the US actually with every other nation being above the US.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Bewusstsein » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:27 pm

Allbeama wrote:
Bewusstsein wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:I'm not even sure if Cuba should be counted here. The country is messed up. It's like a race between a midget, a guy with no legs, and Usain Bolt.


Overall, their healthcare system was last rated, I believe, as right below us.


I think that was Turkey below the US actually with every other nation being above the US.


lol no

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

We're 37th, just above Slovenia and Cuba.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Tubbsalot » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:28 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:I shouldn't have to.

That's true. I shouldn't have to listen to your entitled whining, either, though. Looks like we're both out of luck.

Oh wait the snappiness of that comment is much weakened thanks to the Foe function. :( Damn you, technically superior forum!
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Bluth Corporation » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:29 pm

Rolling squid wrote:Don't like taxes? Get off that computer.

Not paid for by taxes.

Cancel your phone service.

Not paid for by taxes.

Pay six plus dollars a gallon for gasoline.

Not paid for by taxes.

Stop driving on paved roads.

I will when they stop robbing me first. I'd rather do without altogether than be forced to pay for it against my will, but as long as they're robbing me I'll continue to use it so the robbery isn't a total loss.

Don't watch TV.

Not paid for by taxes.

Cancel your electricity,

Not paid for by taxes.

water

Not paid for by taxes.

gas (if you have it).

Not paid for by taxes.

Never go to the library.

Not paid for by taxes.

Never call emergency services.

I will when they stop robbing me first. I'd rather do without altogether than be forced to pay for it against my will, but as long as they're robbing me I'll continue to use it so the robbery isn't a total loss.

Don't vote.

I will when they stop robbing me first. I'd rather do without altogether than be forced to pay for it against my will, but as long as they're robbing me I'll continue to use it so the robbery isn't a total loss.

Buy only local grown produce.

Not paid for by taxes.

Never get mail.

Not paid for by taxes.

Then stop complaining about taxes, because they pay for all of that.

No, not really.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby New Ziedrich » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:31 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:Sicko is propagandistic trash, several levels below such classics as Birth of a Nation, Lieutenant Kizhe, The Battleship Potemkin, Triumph of the Will, or The Eternal Jew.


I know that this is a bit of a derail, but would you mind explaining what it is you like about these films?
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Bluth Corporation » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:32 pm

New Ziedrich wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:Sicko is propagandistic trash, several levels below such classics as Birth of a Nation, Lieutenant Kizhe, The Battleship Potemkin, Triumph of the Will, or The Eternal Jew.


I know that this is a bit of a derail, but would you mind explaining what it is you like about these films?


What makes you think I did?

Though Lieutenant Kizhe is indeed quite humorous, and Triumph of the Will is indeed a marvelous technical achievement (as is Birth of a Nation), content-wise they have no merit whatsoever.

Incidentally, I once spent an entire night of poker and beer arguing with my friends over "zh" or "j" was a more appropriate transliteration of Ж in this case.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Milks Empire » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:33 pm

New Ziedrich wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:Sicko is propagandistic trash, several levels below such classics as Birth of a Nation, Lieutenant Kizhe, The Battleship Potemkin, Triumph of the Will, or The Eternal Jew.

I know that this is a bit of a derail, but would you mind explaining what it is you like about these films?

Sicko doesn't suck Ayn Rand's boobies? :p
(I mean that in the strictly figurative sense.)
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Surote » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:36 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:Don't like taxes? Get off that computer.

Not paid for by taxes.

Cancel your phone service.

Not paid for by taxes.

Pay six plus dollars a gallon for gasoline.

Not paid for by taxes.

Stop driving on paved roads.

I will when they stop robbing me first. I'd rather do without altogether than be forced to pay for it against my will, but as long as they're robbing me I'll continue to use it so the robbery isn't a total loss.

Don't watch TV.

Not paid for by taxes.

Cancel your electricity,

Not paid for by taxes.

water

Not paid for by taxes.

gas (if you have it).

Not paid for by taxes.

Never go to the library.

Not paid for by taxes.

Never call emergency services.

I will when they stop robbing me first. I'd rather do without altogether than be forced to pay for it against my will, but as long as they're robbing me I'll continue to use it so the robbery isn't a total loss.

Don't vote.

I will when they stop robbing me first. I'd rather do without altogether than be forced to pay for it against my will, but as long as they're robbing me I'll continue to use it so the robbery isn't a total loss.

Buy only local grown produce.

Not paid for by taxes.

Never get mail.

Not paid for by taxes.

Then stop complaining about taxes, because they pay for all of that.

No, not really.


Actually if we didn't pay taxes and private industries paved roads and build liberaries the rich and elite would be the only one's who would be able to afford it and the poor and mid class would suufer from fees.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Tekania » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:39 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:Unless I am the sole person who decides whether or not I individually am taxed, I am compelled to do so against my will, and therefore it is coercive.


Yep, that's organized society for you... You're no the absolute ruler of all that be. As soon as people inter-operate/cooperate to form social structures, there's going to be a give/take relationship of balance for a healthy operation.

You could always buy an uninhabited island and become your own state, living in solitude... Just do not bring anyone else with you.

Bluth Corporation wrote:It doesn't matter if I merely have a say in the matter, if 150 million other people do too. I have to have the only say in what happens with my money and property.


Therein lies your problem. What YOU do with your stuff has impact on others. Thus, rules get formed which may limit certain parts of how you can deal with what you think is yours. Your problem is you're self-centered and egotistical. You're not capable of dealing with society (you're anti-social), and thus human society has rejected you. You're an outcast, and will be chewed apart and spit out by the rest of society.

I got some news for you.... Property does not really exist, it is imaginary lines drawn on paper which delineate material objects between people/groups in the system. Money is even LESS real than property, it has no actual physical/tangible value. It's a nebulous piece of paper printed by the Federal Reserve System... Every day your money has less exchange value than it did the day before, even if no one "takes" any from you in taxes.

Truthfully, there is only ONE thing that should have value, and that is WORK... And unfortunately in Laissez-Faire Capitalism, WORK is undervalued, and MONEY/PROPERTY is over-valued, so those who do the most WORK get the LEAST return, and those who do the LEAST work (but throw money/property around) get the MOST return. IOW Laissez-Faire Capitalsim is nothing but Feudalism in disguise...
Such heroic nonsense!

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Milks Empire » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:39 pm

Surote wrote:Actually if we didn't pay taxes and private industries paved roads and build liberaries the rich and elite would be the only one's who would be able to afford it and the poor and mid class would suufer from fees.

A precondition for the middle class to suffer is that there has to be a middle class. Under Rand's system, you'd have maybe 10 people who control everything and everyone else would be coerced by them if they wanted to physically survive. Face it, Bluth, there will always be some kind of coercion and there's not a damn thing you or anyone can do about it.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby New Ziedrich » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:40 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
New Ziedrich wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:Sicko is propagandistic trash, several levels below such classics as Birth of a Nation, Lieutenant Kizhe, The Battleship Potemkin, Triumph of the Will, or The Eternal Jew.


I know that this is a bit of a derail, but would you mind explaining what it is you like about these films?


What makes you think I did?

Though Lieutenant Kizhe is indeed quite humorous, and Triumph of the Will is indeed a marvelous technical achievement (as is Birth of a Nation), content-wise they have no merit whatsoever.


You did use the word "classics" after all; considering that rather unique selection, I was curious about the specific definition of the word "classic" in that particular context.

I'm not really the sort to launch any sort of attack without gathering a bit of info, after all. There's too much of that on NSG as it is.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Rolling squid » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:42 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:Not paid for by taxes.


wow, I haven't seen this level of denial in a long time. Tell me, who do you think built the grinds and installed the mains that lets electricity, water, gas, phone, and Internet all to reach your house, and carry sewage away? Various levels of government. Who paved the roads, allowing the trucks carrying produce to reach your supermarket? The same. Who subsidies gasoline, and maintains ports that allow vast quantities of oil to reach the country?
Hammurab wrote:An athiest doesn't attend mass, go to confession, or know a lot about catholicism. So basically, an athiest is the same as a catholic.


Post-Unity Terra wrote:Golly gosh, one group of out-of-touch rich white guys is apparently more in touch with the average man than the other group of out-of-touch rich white guys.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Milks Empire » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:42 pm

Rolling squid wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:Not paid for by taxes.

wow, I haven't seen this level of denial in a long time. Tell me, who do you think built the grinds and installed the mains that lets electricity, water, gas, phone, and Internet all to reach your house, and carry sewage away? Various levels of government. Who paved the roads, allowing the trucks carrying produce to reach your supermarket? The same. Who subsidies gasoline, and maintains ports that allow vast quantities of oil to reach the country?

But, but, but... that's morally illegitimate! :p
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Bluth Corporation » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:43 pm

Rolling squid wrote:wow, I haven't seen this level of denial in a long time. Tell me, who do you think built the grinds and installed the mains that lets electricity, water, gas, phone, and Internet all to reach your house, and carry sewage away? Various levels of government.

No, not at all.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Allbeama » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:43 pm

Bewusstsein wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
Bewusstsein wrote:
Overall, their healthcare system was last rated, I believe, as right below us.


I think that was Turkey below the US actually with every other nation being above the US.


lol no

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

We're 37th, just above Slovenia and Cuba.


That is apparently 9 years old though....
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Bluth Corporation » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:44 pm

New Ziedrich wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:
New Ziedrich wrote:
What makes you think I did?

Though Lieutenant Kizhe is indeed quite humorous, and Triumph of the Will is indeed a marvelous technical achievement (as is Birth of a Nation), content-wise they have no merit whatsoever.


You did use the word "classics" after all; considering that rather unique selection, I was curious about the specific definition of the word "classic" in that particular context.


They're classics of the art of propaganda.

That I do not agree with the ideas they espouse does not change that fact.
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Postby Bewusstsein » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:44 pm

That is apparently 9 years old though....


So? It won't have changed much.
Not America's position, anyway. Unless the rest of the world has plummeted, then meh.
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Postby Milks Empire » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:44 pm

Allbeama wrote:That is apparently 9 years old though....

Point granted.

If I had to place my bets about a more current list, I'd bet our ranking has dropped.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Rolling squid » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:46 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:wow, I haven't seen this level of denial in a long time. Tell me, who do you think built the grinds and installed the mains that lets electricity, water, gas, phone, and Internet all to reach your house, and carry sewage away? Various levels of government.

No, not at all.


Then who does?
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Post-Unity Terra wrote:Golly gosh, one group of out-of-touch rich white guys is apparently more in touch with the average man than the other group of out-of-touch rich white guys.

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Postby Eugene Zolo » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:47 pm

AHSCA wrote:According to WHO, Myanmar has the worst.


According to the dipshits here its the USA, yea the USA is apparently worse than Myanmar.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Allbeama » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:48 pm

Bewusstsein wrote:
That is apparently 9 years old though....


So? It won't have changed much.
Not America's position, anyway. Unless the rest of the world has plummeted, then meh.


It is still not very good...despite the fact that people claim its "the best in the world, ever!" (not exact words but Faux news seems inclined to shout this "if aint broke don't fix it" battle cry.)
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Bluth Corporation » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:49 pm

Rolling squid wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:wow, I haven't seen this level of denial in a long time. Tell me, who do you think built the grinds and installed the mains that lets electricity, water, gas, phone, and Internet all to reach your house, and carry sewage away? Various levels of government.

No, not at all.


Then who does?


Here, it's Duke Energy; Pike-Gibson Water, Inc.; Verizon; Vectren; and Verizon again (I live out in the boonies, so I use dialup Internet at home).
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Rolling squid » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:50 pm

Eugene Zolo wrote:
AHSCA wrote:According to WHO, Myanmar has the worst.


According to the dipshits here its the USA, yea the USA is apparently worse than Myanmar.


Based on the options given, discounting 'other' the USA does have the worst. And I'd have to say that the worst health care system in the world would probably be Somalia.
Hammurab wrote:An athiest doesn't attend mass, go to confession, or know a lot about catholicism. So basically, an athiest is the same as a catholic.


Post-Unity Terra wrote:Golly gosh, one group of out-of-touch rich white guys is apparently more in touch with the average man than the other group of out-of-touch rich white guys.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Milks Empire » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:51 pm

Eugene Zolo wrote:
AHSCA wrote:According to WHO, Myanmar has the worst.

According to the dipshits here its the USA, yea the USA is apparently worse than Myanmar.

Do you ever get sick of flaming? :palm:

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Postby Eugene Zolo » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:55 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Eugene Zolo wrote:
AHSCA wrote:According to WHO, Myanmar has the worst.

According to the dipshits here its the USA, yea the USA is apparently worse than Myanmar.

Do you ever get sick of flaming? :palm:


You realize this poll has an ''other'' option, other means every place in the world not already listed in the world. So how am I wrong to call someone who thinks nations like Myanmar and the Sudan have better healthcare than the USA dipshits, explain it to me please. Though I never get sick of calling stupid people, out.
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