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Worst Health Care system in the world

USA
32
31%
Cuba
1
1%
Europe
8
8%
Antarctica
35
34%
Other
28
27%
 
Total votes : 104

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Tekania
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Tekania » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:07 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:Would you expect a company that provides homeowners' insurance to insure a house that's already on fire?


We're talking about people, not houses.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Milks Empire » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:07 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:Would you expect a company that provides homeowners' insurance to insure a house that's already on fire?

:palm:
Analogy does not hold. A person is a person, sick or not. A house on fire is just a burning pile of wood.

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Postby Surote » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:10 pm

If death panels do exist would you like the gov't to tell who can live or die or the private companies tell you rather if you can live or die.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Ravea » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:11 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:Unless I am the sole person who decides whether or not I individually am taxed, I am compelled to do so against my will, and therefore it is coercive.

It doesn't matter if I merely have a say in the matter, if 150 million other people do too. I have to have the only say in what happens with my money and property.


How greedy of you.
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Tekania
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Tekania » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:14 pm

Surote wrote:If death panels do exist would you like the gov't to tell who can live or die or the private companies tell you rather if you can live or die.


Well, given that a government panel would be arbitrary...

And those of us who have private insurance are already subject to the decisions of people whose ultimate goal is increased profits to the share-holders, and thus will make medical decisions on our behalf to the doctors, with that goal in mind....

Gee, let me think about this for a few days...

Yes, I could deal with Gov't "Death Panels"...
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Milks Empire » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:17 pm

Ravea wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:Unless I am the sole person who decides whether or not I individually am taxed, I am compelled to do so against my will, and therefore it is coercive.

It doesn't matter if I merely have a say in the matter, if 150 million other people do too. I have to have the only say in what happens with my money and property.

How greedy of you.

He takes that to mean you're calling him virtuous. Don't bother.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby SaintB » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:46 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:How is taxation anything but coercive?

Okay, let me inform you of the situation in Europe. Most European countries have excellent educational standards and relatively frequent elections, which means that if people were getting tired of the 50% taxation rate, they'd be more than capable of voting the government out of power. The fact that they nonetheless continue to elect these governments is probably best explained by the idea that they like such a high tax rate, because they understand where their tax dollars go and can see the results for themselves.

Increasingly it seems that the only thing we Americans see out of our tax dollars is this:
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Trippoli » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:49 pm

I laugh when people tell me the USA has the best Healthcare system.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:55 pm

Trippoli wrote:I laugh when people tell me the USA has the best Healthcare system.


I laugh when the percentages of people who believe Cuba, Europe, Antarctica, and America's Healthcare systems, when compared to all other possible countries, is the worst is as followed:

> 0%
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Dakini » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:07 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:
Trippoli wrote:I laugh when people tell me the USA has the best Healthcare system.


I laugh when the percentages of people who believe Cuba, Europe, Antarctica, and America's Healthcare systems, when compared to all other possible countries, is the worst is as followed:

> 0%

The only country (or continent) in the poll that isn't a developed country (or a group of developed countries) is Cuba. Considering that the worst health care systems are in undeveloped countries and nobody thinks about developed countries... this isn't exactly surprising.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Tunizcha » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:09 pm

Antarctica: You can't get worse than nothing.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:14 pm

Tunizcha wrote:Antarctica: You can't get worse than nothing.


The penguins would disagree.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Tunizcha » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:15 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:Antarctica: You can't get worse than nothing.


The penguins would disagree.


I thought they were North Pole.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:16 pm

Dakini wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Trippoli wrote:I laugh when people tell me the USA has the best Healthcare system.


I laugh when the percentages of people who believe Cuba, Europe, Antarctica, and America's Healthcare systems, when compared to all other possible countries, is the worst is as followed:

> 0%

The only country (or continent) in the poll that isn't a developed country (or a group of developed countries) is Cuba. Considering that the worst health care systems are in undeveloped countries and nobody thinks about developed countries... this isn't exactly surprising.


But it's still laughable, to me anyways.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:17 pm

Tunizcha wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:Antarctica: You can't get worse than nothing.


The penguins would disagree.


I thought they were North Pole.


Nope.
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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Dakini » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:25 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:But it's still laughable, to me anyways.

Yeah. Though were this a true "worst health care system in the world" (and serious) none of the countries/continents listed would appear. If it was a "worst health care system in the developed world" thread then Cuba wouldn't be an option.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Dakini » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:26 pm

Tunizcha wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:Antarctica: You can't get worse than nothing.


The penguins would disagree.


I thought they were North Pole.

If they were, they'd be polar bear food.

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Re: Worst Health Care system in the world

Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:45 pm

Dakini wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:But it's still laughable, to me anyways.

Yeah. Though were this a true "worst health care system in the world" (and serious) none of the countries/continents listed would appear. If it was a "worst health care system in the developed world" thread then Cuba wouldn't be an option.


The lack of specific OP guidelines, as you pointed out, is the main cause. I just assumed from the beginning, given the options, that everyone would at least recognize the fact that the very worst health care systems are in, as you stated, in undeveloped countries.

I guess I was wrong, but the sheer number of people who actually went against choosing "Other" is very amusing to me.
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