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Best Army

America
143
55%
Britian
37
14%
France
7
3%
China
21
8%
Israel
15
6%
Russia
18
7%
Other(Please post)
21
8%
 
Total votes : 262

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DMistan
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Re: Best Army in world

Postby DMistan » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:22 pm

Gynocracy wrote:My grandad fought in World War Two and he said that the American troops were very good if they had overwhelming superiority but that if they had to fight roughly equal numbers and equipment they were useless!


Someone's Grandad was underpaid, undersexed and under Eisenhower

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Jenrak » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:27 pm

Best Army in the World? Very subjective, but my vote so far goes to the US Military.

The main problem it carries is that its

A) Run by a democratic state, which makes it difficult to prolong a war when one of the main tenets of a democratic state can also hinder the progress of a war (the free media)

B) Built to fight a major power-paradigm - a performance between US and China would yield much better results than US and Iraq, for example, as the US army seems to work best when it carries defined military keypoints and objectives, not just 'War on Terror'

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Maurepas » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:09 pm

NATO forces...

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Meridistan » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:15 pm

Well, while I would vote for the US in this case, I must say that it isn't nearly as effective or powerful as it could be. From the acquisition corruption, to the petty infighting and budget contests between the branches, to the tendency to cling to outdated or ineffective policies (Such as Generals in love with syncronization and the Air Force's love affair with interdiction missions rather than close air support), the military just doesn't seem to preform as well as it should, given the budget that it has. I can't help but wonder if other countries with far smaller military budgets are able to avoid these problems.

Jenrak wrote:A) Run by a democratic state, which makes it difficult to prolong a war when one of the main tenets of a democratic state can also hinder the progress of a war (the free media)


Well, that same press can at times be the catalyst for going to war, or the factor that sustains a country's drive to continue a war rather than pull out. It all depends on the circumstances, what is witnessed, what is reported, and how the reported events are interpreted/spun.

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Soviet Taoistan » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:16 pm

Costa Rica! It has the best army in that it voluntarily has no army.

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:18 pm

The US army.

Or maybe the Roman Army... Have we conquered most of Europe?
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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Maurepas » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:23 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:The US army.

Or maybe the Roman Army... Have we conquered most of Europe?

Im pretty sure we've covered a larger land area across the world, IIRC....

But, the US Army is far more efficient than the Roman Army was, as are nearly all Armies in the First World, progress my friend, ;) ...

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Postby The South Islands » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:24 pm

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby The Future Kingdom » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:25 pm

USA can kick chinese ass with our best navy, airforce, and ground forces

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:25 pm

Maurepas wrote:Im pretty sure we've covered a larger land area across the world, IIRC....

But, the US Army is far more efficient than the Roman Army was, as are nearly all Armies in the First World, progress my friend, ;) ...

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Postby Epicnopolis » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:32 pm

Cabickstan wrote:Due to an overwhelming population in China I would say that they can kick our ass.Britan is not that powwerful anymore.


Population doesn't mean anything. And Britain's military is the most underrated military ever.
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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Storm Round » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:38 pm

Personally, I don't think that there is a best army in the world. Its the strategies employed and the training and motivation of the soldiers that are important.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:46 pm

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Anemos Major » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:50 pm

Frangland wrote:All-around -- considering factors like size, weapons/technology, organization, tactics, quality of training, and mobility (assuming those are some of the main factors...) -- not to be a homer, but I think the answer is the US.

An equally interesting question is this (not to hijack the thread):

What is the top special operations unit?

A few well-known examples are the British SAS, US Delta Force and French GIGN (I think that's what it's called).


The GIGN (Groupe d'Intervention de Gendarmerie Nationale) is NOT a special forces unit per se. It's a police-based counter terrorist group.

If you want French SF troops, look here:

The entire military's SF groupings fall under the command of the COS...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commandement_des_Op%C3%A9rations_Sp%C3%A9ciales

The SAS equivalent is this (they were founded by the SAS, so they even have the same motto):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Marine_Infantry_Parachute_Regiment

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Kraveska » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:56 pm

Lol, who freaking chose France?

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Postby Anemos Major » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:57 pm

Kraveska wrote:Lol, who freaking chose France?


Me. Any problems?

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Noders » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:00 pm

Arivada wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Is there an age limit on this thread?

I assume you can't enter the 'debate' when you're over 12 year old?

What the...?

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Bavin » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:01 pm

[quote="Arivada";p="476007"][quote="Anemos Major";p="475996"][quote="Khodoristan";p="475984"]US army is best. Best training, equipment, strategies. It has force projection that other nations cannot even imagine.[/quote]

They can get the troops there, but once they get there they can't really do shit, to be frank.[/quote]
We've crushed the Panamians,Grenadians,Iraqis,Germans,North Koreans,Japanese etc.[/quote]
Um, Korea was a tie. And the other nations aren't exactly known for having the best militaries.

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:03 pm

Bavin wrote:Um, Korea was a tie. And the other nations aren't exactly known for having the best militaries.

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WOOT Viva la France!

Korea was 50 years ago, against North Korea and China. :meh:
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Postby Samatolian City-States » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:03 pm

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Corruption is evil. Therefore, power is evil. Absolute power is absolute evil.

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Re: Best Army in world

Postby Noders » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:04 pm

Jimanistan wrote:Armies are for petty children...

Wouldn't the Second World War have been way easier if we defeated the Axis in a street race? The T-34 could definitely outrun a panzer...

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Postby Anemos Major » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:07 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Bavin wrote:Um, Korea was a tie. And the other nations aren't exactly known for having the best militaries.

To Anemos Major:
WOOT Viva la France!

Korea was 50 years ago, against North Korea and China. :meh:


It was. Looks like the US is steadily getting worse at what they do.

And Bavin... pretty much. Although it's 'vive', not 'viva'.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:11 pm

Anemos Major wrote:It was. Looks like the US is steadily getting worse at what they do.

Pardon?
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Postby Samatolian City-States » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:14 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Bavin wrote:Um, Korea was a tie. And the other nations aren't exactly known for having the best militaries.

To Anemos Major:
WOOT Viva la France!

Korea was 50 years ago, against North Korea and China. :meh:


It was. Looks like the US is steadily getting worse at what they do.

Maybe it's because we're not fighting countries anymore.
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Postby Anemos Major » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:16 pm

They won't be pulling out of the Middle East for a while. In short, the USA are waging wars they can't finish quickly. Korea was a military defeat, and the South Koreans appreciated what they did. In Vietnam, parts of the South did, before they were snuffed out. Iraq and Afghanistan? Look at the popular comments. They may have won militarily (not in Afghanistan), but certainly not politically.

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