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Most Americans Are Liberal

Postby Geilinor » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:22 pm

The self-indication poll that suggests most Americans are conservative is wrong. Most Americans actually have liberal views, issue by issue. http://mediamatters.org/reports/progmaj/
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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:28 pm

Geilinor wrote:The self-indication poll that suggests most Americans are conservative is wrong. Most Americans actually have liberal views, issue by issue. http://mediamatters.org/reports/progmaj/


I'm not sure if this is gonna work out with everyone here on NS, Geilinor. Some people might start to disagree.
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Postby Orangi » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:30 pm

You know what else studies show? That our education is sub-standard, and we depend massively on The Government on a day to day basis.

But I'm sure it's all purely co-incidence...
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Postby Set the Unbound » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:33 pm

It would be a boring thread if everyone agreed.

I'm going to take issue with the poll, though.

A lot of those items are not Liberal at all, and some are actually Conservative/Authoritarian.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:34 pm

Most Americans are American.
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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:36 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Most Americans are American.

^This.
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:37 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Most Americans are American.

Unpossible! :eek:
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Postby Barringtonia » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:37 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Most Americans are American.


..aside from the Kenyan who runs the joint.

Geilinor wrote:The self-indication poll that suggests most Americans are conservative is wrong. Most Americans actually have liberal views, issue by issue. http://mediamatters.org/reports/progmaj/


Liberal as compared to what, I'm sure 'liberals' of old were conservative by current estimation.

It can only really be 50/50.
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Postby Orangi » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:38 pm

Set the Unbound wrote:It would be a boring thread if everyone agreed.

I'm going to take issue with the poll, though.

A lot of those items are not Liberal at all, and some are actually Conservative/Authoritarian.


Woah hold on there buddy... Those two are NOT interchangeable...
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Postby Set the Unbound » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:39 pm

Orangi wrote:
Set the Unbound wrote:It would be a boring thread if everyone agreed.

I'm going to take issue with the poll, though.

A lot of those items are not Liberal at all, and some are actually Conservative/Authoritarian.


Woah hold on there buddy... Those two are NOT interchangeable...


They are not... but they are not Liberal, either
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Postby Orangi » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:41 pm

Also true.
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:43 pm

Set the Unbound wrote:
Orangi wrote:
Woah hold on there buddy... Those two are NOT interchangeable...


They are not... but they are not Liberal, either

I agree.

Liberal to my mind, should not be conflated with more government, in general.

Still this data saddens me, we've got people genuinely supporting things that will only cause more problems in the future, putting more faith in government than themselves, it's never good.
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Postby Rainicorn » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:43 pm

:palm: Of course Media Matters would say that, they're more liberal than George Sorros!
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Postby Orangi » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:46 pm

Rainicorn wrote::palm: Of course Media Matters would say that, they're more liberal than George Sorros!


I'm not entirely sure it's possible to be more liberal than THAT turncoat...
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Postby Jinos » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:48 pm

It's funny how people with progressively minded liberal opinions can be conditioned to believe they are conservatives by the mass media by labeling "Liberals" are dirty communists who want one party totalitarianism where government death panels decide whether you live or die.
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Postby Orangi » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:52 pm

Jinos wrote:It's funny how people with progressively minded liberal opinions can be conditioned to believe they are conservatives by the mass media by labeling "Liberals" are dirty communists who want one party totalitarianism where government death panels decide whether you live or die.


Got any buzzwords there, buddy? Or are you just gonna' cycle the same shit we've been hearing for about three years now?
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Postby Augustus Este » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:53 pm

Orangi wrote:
Rainicorn wrote::palm: Of course Media Matters would say that, they're more liberal than George Sorros!


I'm not entirely sure it's possible to be more liberal than THAT turncoat...



You shouldn't judge people based off what Glen Beck said
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:55 pm

People want a government that can do things and make a positive impact on society? Hold that front page.
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Postby Orangi » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:55 pm

Augustus Este wrote:
Orangi wrote:
I'm not entirely sure it's possible to be more liberal than THAT turncoat...



You shouldn't judge people based off what Glen Beck said


You know what's fun? Research. Which you apparently suck at.
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Postby Augustus Este » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:57 pm

Orangi wrote:
Augustus Este wrote:

You shouldn't judge people based off what Glen Beck said


You know what's fun? Research. Which you apparently suck at.


I'm not the one believing conspiracy theories
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Postby Sporae » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:00 am

Geilinor wrote:The self-indication poll that suggests most Americans are conservative is wrong. Most Americans actually have liberal views, issue by issue. http://mediamatters.org/reports/progmaj/


I know. It's a shame, huh? :rofl:

Sorry, but you know I had to do it. For a real comment...

I'd have to agree. The more conservative states are generally smaller, whereas liberals tend to flock to more populated states, so it makes some sense. However, from what I've noticed, Americans overall are more conservative than most others in the world. Can anyone verify that for me?
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Postby Orangi » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:15 am

Augustus Este wrote:
Orangi wrote:
You know what's fun? Research. Which you apparently suck at.


I'm not the one believing conspiracy theories


And I'm not the one turning a blind eye to things that are true, hoping it'll all go away if I close my eyes. I didn't get that from Beck, asshole.
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:16 am

Orangi wrote:
Augustus Este wrote:
I'm not the one believing conspiracy theories


And I'm not the one turning a blind eye to things that are true, hoping it'll all go away if I close my eyes. I didn't get that from Beck, asshole.

Thats odd since Beck started those rumors. Maybe you heard Alex Jones regurgitate it?
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:25 am

I've never referred to myself as a conservative, although I have referred to myself as a (classical) liberal.
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:28 am

Orangi wrote:And I'm not the one turning a blind eye to things that are true, hoping it'll all go away if I close my eyes. I didn't get that from Beck, asshole.

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