Is God Evil?

[Samuraikoku]

Yes, because of that everyone is now a sinner.

You have just admitted that people are born into sin.

It is easy to sin because its always better to do wrong. Why? Because we have a sinful nature.

This is entirely arbitrary and without any evidence.

[Farnhamia]

Which means it's impossible NOT to sin, because life itself is a sin. Why did he create life in the first place?

Let's see you get out of that one.

Pretty much, yes everyone has sinned in his/her lifetime. Life is not sin, nowhere in the Bible does it say it is sinful, but the people sin, hence you are not really born a sinner however you have sinned which means you are a sinner.

Not me. I don't accept your or Yahweh's definition of sin, so I am not a sinner. It's really quite ... comprehensible.

[NewLakotah]

But if you are saying that everything you do is a sin then thats not true.

I found a self-contradiction.

Pretty much, yes everyone has sinned in his/her lifetime. Life is not sin, nowhere in the Bible does it say it is sinful, but the people sin, hence you are not really born a sinner however you have sinned which means you are a sinner.

You admitted that it's impossible not to sin.

Not to mention, because of the Original Sin, you ARE born a sinner.

First of all I don't see a contradiction.

You are born into a sinful world, meaning you are going to sin. Everybody in the Bible, famous or not, has sinned. yet they are still going to Heaven, which means God is not evil.

[Ceannairceach]

In my honest belief (not trying to intrude on those who do not share my views or atheists):

Evil is allowed by God and is created by man. For example, to Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian man whom killed dozens in a Norway terrorist attack just recently, his actions may be heroic. Hitler may have thought he was ridding the world of evil by killing Jews, homosexuals, the mentally-challenged, and others whom he thought were 'inpure'. God allows evil because without it, he would have to make us all mindless beings.

it doesn't matter what the individual thinks; morality is not relative, and as such, their opinions on how the world should be does not negate the fact they they were wrong.

[Samuraikoku]

Not me. I don't accept your or Yahweh's definition of sin, so I am not a sinner. It's really quite ... comprehensible.

Me neither (I believe I'm a damn hero, but that's beside the point), but under Yahweh's definition, NO ONE is sinless but Yahweh himself.

[Keronians]

Not me. I don't accept your or Yahweh's definition of sin, so I am not a sinner. It's really quite ... comprehensible.

Me neither (I believe I'm a damn hero, but that's beside the point), but under Yahweh's definition, NO ONE is sinless but Yahweh himself.

Yet you are forgiven for your sins.

[Farnhamia]

Me neither (I believe I'm a damn hero, but that's beside the point), but under Yahweh's definition, NO ONE is sinless but Yahweh himself.

Yet you are forgiven for your sins.

Save it for someone who cares.

[Ceannairceach]

Me neither (I believe I'm a damn hero, but that's beside the point), but under Yahweh's definition, NO ONE is sinless but Yahweh himself.

Yet you are forgiven for your sins.

I honestly couldn't care less if an imaginary being who is attributed to mass murder and genocide forgives me for some trumped up charges of sin.

[Keronians]

Yet you are forgiven for your sins.

Save it for someone who cares.

[Samuraikoku]

First of all I don't see a contradiction.

Your "pretty much" said it's impossible not to sin. And then you said "not everything you do is a sin". Not only you haven't disproved that, I can actually prove it. I like your girlfriend, I find she's a nice and beautiful person and I would like her to be with me instead. But I don't make a move on her, nor do I do anything to get her out of your side. I just like her. The Bible says "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's (woman/man/sex slave or whatever it is)", so just liking someone is evil.

Again, let's try to get out of that one.

You are born into a sinful world, meaning you are going to sin. Everybody in the Bible, famous or not, has sinned. yet they are still going to Heaven, which means God is not evil.

Clearly you need to go back to read your Bible.

[NewLakotah]

Yet you are forgiven for your sins.

Save it for someone who cares.

Just wait and then someday you will care.

[Samuraikoku]

Me neither (I believe I'm a damn hero, but that's beside the point), but under Yahweh's definition, NO ONE is sinless but Yahweh himself.

Yet you are forgiven for your sins.

Even so, it is an unfair double standard.

[Ceannairceach]

Save it for someone who cares.

Just wait and then someday you will care.

Farn is over two thousand years old. She's had a long time to care, and hasn't. This said, I don't see how waiting will make anyone care. Explain.

[Keronians]

Save it for someone who cares.

Just wait and then someday you will care.

She's quite... ehm... on in years, as it is.

I think her days of waiting are gone.

[Samuraikoku]

Save it for someone who cares.

Just wait and then someday you will care.

I am a Samurai. Religion will never mean anything to me. I only follow the path of the warrior.

And with that, you've just admitted your trolling.

[Keronians]

Just wait and then someday you will care.

I am a Samurai. Religion will never mean anything to me. I only follow the path of the warrior.

And with that, you've just admitted your trolling.

Most Samurai were Buddhists...

[Keronians]

Yet you are forgiven for your sins.

Even so, it is an unfair double standard.

What is a double standard?

[Samuraikoku]

I am a Samurai. Religion will never mean anything to me. I only follow the path of the warrior.

And with that, you've just admitted your trolling.

Most Samurai were Buddhists...

Most doesn't mean all. I'm one of those who are not.

[NewLakotah]

First of all I don't see a contradiction.

Your "pretty much" said it's impossible not to sin. And then you said "not everything you do is a sin". Not only you haven't disproved that, I can actually prove it. I like your girlfriend, I find she's a nice and beautiful person and I would like her to be with me instead. But I don't make a move on her, nor do I do anything to get her out of your side. I just like her. The Bible says "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's (woman/man/sex slave or whatever it is)", so just liking someone is evil.

Again, let's try to get out of that one.

You are born into a sinful world, meaning you are going to sin. Everybody in the Bible, famous or not, has sinned. yet they are still going to Heaven, which means God is not evil.

Clearly you need to go back to read your Bible.

I said everybody will sin but I did not say everything you do is sinful. HUGE difference. And what you said is not true again. If you like somebody that is not sinful but if you want to actually sin with her/him then you have sinned. But not if you like someone. Thats utter stupidity and not Biblical.

And yes everyone in the Bible has commited a sin and many of them, not all are going to Heaven.

[Farnhamia]

Save it for someone who cares.

Just wait and then someday you will care.

I doubt it. If I die and if I end up standing in front of Saint Peter or some sort of throne, I'll say, "You gave me a brain and didn't want me to use it? Pretty incomprehensible, dude."

@ Ceannairceach: 17,260 but who's counting?

[Keronians]

Most Samurai were Buddhists...

Most doesn't mean all. I'm one of those who are not.

Samurai culture comes from Buddhism...

[Samuraikoku]

Even so, it is an unfair double standard.

What is a double standard?

I'm already a sinner just because of being born (the original sin). God cannot sin. But I'm forgiven for something some supposed (AKA: fictional) ancestors did, while God can slaughter an entire town and still be sinless. See the double standard?

[Tsarsgrad]

I find that in the Bible it says that God is mean when he needs to be, like a strict dad.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Just wait and then someday you will care.

I doubt it. If I die and if I end up standing in front of Saint Peter or some sort of throne, I'll say, "You gave me a brain and didn't want me to use it? Pretty incomprehensible, dude."

@ Ceannairceach: 17,260 but who's counting?

And you don't look older than 35, babe.

[Ceannairceach]

I find that in the Bible it says that God is mean when he needs to be, like a strict dad.

I'd describe him more as an "Abusive father".