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Postby Thanetoria » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:09 pm

Through out history there have been monarchies dictatorships but what is the best form of government to you?

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Postby Connopolis » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:14 pm

Thanetoria wrote:Through out history there have been monarchies dictatorships but what is the best form of government to you?


Wrong thread for this. Try posting it under general.
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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:54 pm

Connopolis wrote:
Thanetoria wrote:Through out history there have been monarchies dictatorships but what is the best form of government to you?


Wrong thread for this. Try posting it under general.

Sounds like my type of system!
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Postby Chinese Regions » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:30 am

Now it is in General
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Postby Hippostania » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:32 am

Liberal conservative democracy :)
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Postby Dagnia » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:33 am

A democratic republic that is severely restricted by constitution.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:37 am

Hippostania wrote:Liberal conservative democracy :)

Oxymoron? Or Third way?
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Postby Chyeknovostan Republic » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:41 am

Communism
Chyekish Soviet Union

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Postby Alyakia » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:43 am

Constituional Monarchy.

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Postby Fruitopia Eutopia » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:45 am

Alyakia wrote:Constituional Monarchy.

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:bow: Agreed 100%. We still love our monarchy in Canada.

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Postby Trotskylvania » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:48 am

None of them.

The form a state takes is determined by the material conditions in which it arose. They are products of the economic base and the times in which they inhabit, so to speak of the "best" form of state simply doesn't invite meaningful comparisons.
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Postby Rambhutan » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:51 am

A liberal democacy based on pragmatism rather than ideology, with a strong constitution and extremely heavy penalties for corruption.
Are we there yet?

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Postby Delator » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:52 am

Trotskylvania wrote:None of them.

The form a state takes is determined by the material conditions in which it arose. They are products of the economic base and the times in which they inhabit, so to speak of the "best" form of state simply doesn't invite meaningful comparisons.


A reasonable answer? On NSG?

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Postby Darth Didacticus » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:42 am

A Wild-West shoot-em-up police state, where a small handful of lawmen enforce property ownership and essential laws (id est no murder, no rape, et cetera) but where individuals have the right to protect life, limb, and property with lethal force when necessary, and to form a legally-deputized posse to hunt down actual gangs of murderers, rapists, et cetera.

Oh, and did I mention that gun ownership would be completely unlimited for law-abiding citizens? And not limited to wimpy stuff- if someone wants to own a tank, they can own a tank, so long as they don't attempt to commit crimes (theft, murder, rape) with the tank.

Hmmm, committing rape with a tank... Sounds like a game of Halo. Unless the d00ds on the other team have rockets.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:50 am

Muscular liberalism-based social policies combined with moderately social democratic economic policies.
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Postby Oterro » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:56 am

Fruitopia Eutopia wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Constituional Monarchy.

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:bow: Agreed 100%. We still love our monarchy in Canada.


lolol

what monarchy, it's not your monarchy you haven't even met them D:


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Postby New Unsociety » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:57 am

Anarcho-communism.
(or left-wing social anarchism in general)

Direct democracy

Confederate model(federalism)

And for civil rights the simple moral rule "none of <insert ruling system here>'s business"
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby New Freedomstan » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:32 am

Trotskylvania wrote:None of them.

The form a state takes is determined by the material conditions in which it arose. They are products of the economic base and the times in which they inhabit, so to speak of the "best" form of state simply doesn't invite meaningful comparisons.

This. Although, if I'd say what I'd rather live in, it would be communism, or the socialist phase preceding it.

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Postby Valrez » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:37 am

Conservo-libertarianism.
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Postby Hippostania » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:41 am

Chinese Regions wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Liberal conservative democracy :)

Oxymoron? Or Third way?

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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:42 am

Anarcho-Communist, Democratic Confederalist
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Postby Imperial Shogun Japan » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:43 am

Communism, IF IT WOULD JUST WORK! :evil:

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Postby Octabrinaland » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:44 am

Some kind of partially-democratic geniocratic government
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Postby Gorgisia » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:49 am

Centralist, constitutional monarchy. Like in the German or the late Russian Empire.

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