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Bomb attack on Oslo, Norway. At least 87 dead.

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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:25 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
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Let's make it clear: I mean that Troskylvania's answer is an extremely good one. The fact that there are so many terrorists around isn't.

What is it with you Europeans and trying to separate anyway?


They don't have to cross enough borders to get where they want to go yet.

Or something.

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:25 am

Trotskylvania wrote:What is it with you Europeans and trying to separate anyway?


...it's the heirloom of intra-European colonialism, you know, when the winning powers used to sit at a table and split up earlier countries and fiefs drawing lines on the map...
Or maybe it's just that we got a lot of jerks and not enough space. Now that we can't send the jerks to the colonies anymore, they play jerk here.
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Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:They don't have to cross enough borders to get where they want to go yet.
Or something.

I though it was because they all are looking for jobs in exchange booths and at new border posts.
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Postby Dornakia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:27 am

This is absolutely horrible. R.I.P. all the victims. :(
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Postby Alyakia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:27 am

The person, who from post two of this thread has been attempting to hijack this tragedy for their own, insidious plans, has been proven decisively wrong.


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Trotskylvania wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Let's make it clear: I mean that Troskylvania's answer is an extremely good one. The fact that there are so many terrorists around isn't.

What is it with you Europeans and trying to separate anyway?


Don't forget that at least 70% (probably more) of the attacks come from Basques/one (or two) counties. :v
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Postby Khoznikhovia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:34 am

Well,this seems to be Mr Aut Ex's response to the logical arguments he's seen here. Discretion + Valour and all that jazz

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Postby Jerenia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:47 am

"The first thing he did was to shoot the cutest girl he saw."
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Postby Derpusherpus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:52 am

Khoznikhovia wrote:Well,this seems to be Mr Aut Ex's response to the logical arguments he's seen here. Discretion + Valour and all that jazz

Hehe, ye, he must feel dumb now that it was revealed that the terrorist was not a muslim, but an islamophobe like himself. :rofl:
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:53 am

Rumours of a second gunman are surfacing... although it is possible that the frightened kids mistook members of the police strike team as hunters.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:59 am

Jerenia wrote:"The first thing he did was to shoot the cutest girl he saw."
- vg.no

There's some deep, deep issues with this shooter.

Putting on my Freud glasses, I can conclude zhat ze shooter vanted to have sex wiz hiz muther, vewy, vewy, badly.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:22 am

Jerenia wrote:"The first thing he did was to shoot the cutest girl he saw."
- vg.no

I can't read Norwegian (grandma's fault, she pretended she couldn't remember but she totally could...) but is that the assessment of a witness? Maybe he shot the cutest girl the witness saw?
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Postby Bottle » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:03 am

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Norse Scandinavia wrote:Not good, not good ...


It's fantastic, actually. Not that I want people to die, but I think that the West needs to be attacked in order to finally realise that they're at war.

You think that now the West will finally realize they're at war against the radical right-wing?
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Postby Forlon » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:06 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Jerenia wrote:"The first thing he did was to shoot the cutest girl he saw."
- vg.no

There's some deep, deep issues with this shooter.

Putting on my Freud glasses, I can conclude zhat ze shooter vanted to have sex wiz hiz muther, vewy, vewy, badly.


:lol2: I don't mean to laugh in this thread, given the nature of it, but the minute I read that I thought "But that was Freud's answer to everything"

Now to be serious. My condolences to Norway, and anyone on NS from Norway--I wish you the best and may the victims rest in peace.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:09 am

Bottle wrote:
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It's fantastic, actually. Not that I want people to die, but I think that the West needs to be attacked in order to finally realise that they're at war.

You think that now the West will finally realize they're at war against the radical right-wing?

You're talking to this guy.

I'd be mortified too if I'd been that wrong, but I thought Sun Aut Ex had more fight in him than that. Oh well.
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Postby Forster Keys » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:10 am

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Trotskylvania wrote:Just keep digging that hole deeper, Sunny.


Go away, Stalinist.


Pretty awful Stalinist if his posting name is Trotskylvania...
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Postby Bottle » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:18 am

Ailiailia wrote:
Bottle wrote:You think that now the West will finally realize they're at war against the radical right-wing?

You're talking to this guy.

I'd be mortified too if I'd been that wrong, but I thought Sun Aut Ex had more fight in him than that. Oh well.

What's sad is that the sentiment of his that I quoted is one that I've felt, in my darker moments. I've found myself thinking, "When will it be enough for people to realize that the radical right-wing nutters are actually willing to kill us? What will be enough to make them realize that it's not Islam that is the most pressing threat to our way of life?"

Those were the thoughts I was having during the anti-Muslim hysteria after 9/11. Growing up, I learned about terrorism through attacks and disasters like Oklahoma City and Waco, and I was horrified to see that so many of my fellow Americans seemed to totally forget those even existed, in their rush to mark Ebil Brown People as the enemy.
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:18 am

So, there. This American guy, says that now in Norway, it reigns unity and nationalism. It is nationalism that has brought our people together, and it is nationalism that makes us stand agaist such treats as this terrorist. Now, please stop blaiming nationalism for what has now happened.
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7723917
BTW, they said that this guy was a nazi, too, on the telivision, no nationalist.
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Postby The Ixian Confederacy » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:20 am

So Anders Behring Breivik is a pro-Israel Zionist according to the things he has written. Did this influence his Islamophobia?

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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:23 am

Vestr-Norig wrote:BTW, they said that this guy was a nazi, too, on the telivision, no nationalist.

That's like saying a dog is not a mammal because it's a canine...

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:24 am

Vestr-Norig wrote:So, there. This American guy, says that now in Norway, it reigns unity and nationalism. It is nationalism that has brought our people together, and it is nationalism that makes us stand agaist such treats as this terrorist. Now, please stop blaiming nationalism for what has now happened.
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7723917
BTW, they said that this guy was a nazi, too, on the telivision, no nationalist.


Wiki says otherwise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
Following his apprehension, Breivik was characterized by officials as being a conservative right-wing extremist.[5] According to Reuters and the BBC, deputy police chief Roger Andresen described the suspect as a "Christian fundamentalist."[6][7] ...
He is also a former member of the Progress Party (FrP) and its youth wing FpU. According to the current FpU leader Ove Vanebo, Breivik was active early in the 2000s, but he left the party as his viewpoints became more extreme.[8] He identified himself in a multitude of social media services as an admirer of, among others, anti-Nazi World War II hero Max Manus, Dutch politician Geert Wilders[9] and social liberal philosopher John Stuart Mill.[3][10]
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:25 am

Laerod wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:BTW, they said that this guy was a nazi, too, on the telivision, no nationalist.

That's like saying a dog is not a mammal because it's a canine...

:lol2:

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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:31 am

Risottia wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:So, there. This American guy, says that now in Norway, it reigns unity and nationalism. It is nationalism that has brought our people together, and it is nationalism that makes us stand agaist such treats as this terrorist. Now, please stop blaiming nationalism for what has now happened.
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7723917
BTW, they said that this guy was a nazi, too, on the telivision, no nationalist.


Wiki says otherwise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
Following his apprehension, Breivik was characterized by officials as being a conservative right-wing extremist.[5] According to Reuters and the BBC, deputy police chief Roger Andresen described the suspect as a "Christian fundamentalist."[6][7] ...
He is also a former member of the Progress Party (FrP) and its youth wing FpU. According to the current FpU leader Ove Vanebo, Breivik was active early in the 2000s, but he left the party as his viewpoints became more extreme.[8] He identified himself in a multitude of social media services as an admirer of, among others, anti-Nazi World War II hero Max Manus, Dutch politician Geert Wilders[9] and social liberal philosopher John Stuart Mill.[3][10]


No true nationalist with respect for himself would even think about becoming a member of Framstegspartiet (FRP), nor would he vote for them. FRP is not a natinalistic party at all, the only thing that could link them to something like that is their immigration sceptisism.
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Postby The Race of Lizards » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:35 am

July 22. 2011 - a date which will live in infamy...
numbers now count 91dead....
gonna drive into Oslo today and light a candle for the victims.
my heart are with every on of my country men and to the victims.

ALT FOR NORGE...

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Postby Andaluciae » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:43 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Grow up.

Your first.
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So in your mind, people who attack and threaten lots of times are EXACTLY the same as people who come right out of left field and are completely unknown?

The number of foiled or successful terrorist attacks in the Eurozone, by type:
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Right now, I'm visualizing police officers performing a survey on an apprehended terrorist:
"okay sir, just one more question, what would you characterize your motive as? Separatist, Radical Politics, Islamist, or Other?"
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:45 am

The Race of Lizards wrote:July 22. 2011 - a date which will live in infamy...
numbers now count 91dead....
gonna drive into Oslo today and light a candle for the victims.
my heart are with every on of my country men and to the victims.

ALT FOR NORGE...



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Postby Tekania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:55 am

Vestr-Norig wrote:No true nationalist with respect for himself would even think about becoming a member of Framstegspartiet (FRP), nor would he vote for them. FRP is not a natinalistic party at all, the only thing that could link them to something like that is their immigration sceptisism.


Given that they underwent some schism within over nationalism not so long ago, I'll dismiss this as a No True Scotsman fallacy.
Such heroic nonsense!

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