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Bomb attack on Oslo, Norway. At least 87 dead.

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:01 am

Laerod wrote:You claimed it was a muslim plot and stuck to it for the longest time. Turns out you fell flat on your face so now you're trying to cover. No one here feels sorry for you. So, in your words: "Grow up."


No, no I did not. Read the thread.
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So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

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Postby Retoa » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:02 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Retoa wrote:87 dead now? Holy shit....

Someone was saying 91. Pretty impressive for one man to do if you ask me.

Yeah, it's just that there was only two deaths when I last heard about it.
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Postby Vellosia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:02 am

Let's not degrade and debase this thread and the subject it is based upon over some petty argument.

t also appears that the suspect ran some kind of farming/cultivation company, allowing him access to the fertiliser which could have made the bomb.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:03 am

Trotskylvania wrote:The number of foiled or successful terrorist attacks in the Eurozone, by type:

Can I see the source for that, Trots? Not that I'm questioning it's veracity, I'm just interested in reading up on that.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:03 am

Vellosia wrote:Let's not degrade and debase this thread and the subject it is based upon over some petty argument.

:rofl:
You haven't been here long have you?

Retoa wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Someone was saying 91. Pretty impressive for one man to do if you ask me.

Yeah, it's just that there was only two deaths when I last heard about it.

Yeah, it was 4 when I first saw it.
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Postby Vellosia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:04 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Vellosia wrote:Let's not degrade and debase this thread and the subject it is based upon over some petty argument.

:rofl:
You haven't been here long have you?


Sorry for trying to restore some decency. :roll:
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:05 am

Vellosia wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote: :rofl:
You haven't been here long have you?


Sorry for trying to restore some decency. :roll:

Everybody gets one.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:05 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Laerod wrote:You claimed it was a muslim plot and stuck to it for the longest time. Turns out you fell flat on your face so now you're trying to cover. No one here feels sorry for you. So, in your words: "Grow up."


No, no I did not. Read the thread.

Yes you did:
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Norse Scandinavia wrote:Not good, not good ...


It's fantastic, actually. Not that I want people to die, but I think that the West needs to be attacked in order to finally realise that they're at war.

You "retracted" as soon as word came about the shooting, claiming bullshit about it not being an "islamic MO".

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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:05 am

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Trotskylvania wrote:Just keep digging that hole deeper, Sunny.


Go away, Stalinist.

I'm not going anywhere, bucko.

Besides, my politics, which are most certainly not of the Stalinist variety, are not what is important here. Hell, I don't know why you even thought it was a good idea to spring such a baseless attack at me, let alone why you thought it was a good idea to call a person with the nation name Trotskylvania a Stalinist. Then again, you were the one shooting your mouth off earlier, so it does make sense.

But I digress. Your behavior is getting more and more pathetic, as have the apologia you've tried using to justify your bigotry. This is hardly a new incident. Your reputation for your xenophobia and anti-Muslim bigotry precedes. This is just the fucking icing on the cake, so to speak.
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:06 am

Laerod wrote:Yes you did:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:
It's fantastic, actually. Not that I want people to die, but I think that the West needs to be attacked in order to finally realise that they're at war.

You "retracted" as soon as word came about the shooting, claiming bullshit about it not being an "islamic MO".


You know, I was going to answer this post, but you're seriously not worth responding to. Welcome to my ignore list.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:06 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Risottia wrote:So, war against ebil m00zlem terrorists is ok, but war against ebil xtian rightwinger terrorists is a no-go?
Weird.

So in your mind, people who attack and threaten lots of times are EXACTLY the same as people who come right out of left field and are completely unknown?


I'm unsure about what "come right out of the left field" means. Is it some kind of idiom? :unsure:
And yes, Christian terrorists have attacked and threatened the West and its values quite often. Just in the last 20: Oklahoma city anyone? Waco? Provos and their orange counterparts? Croatian and Serbian extremists?

So, yes, in my mind, people who commit the same kind of crime are criminals exactly in the same way. Independently on their religion or ethnicity.

So, according to that earlier post of yours, we should consider ourselves at war with terror and do the same things to Christian right-wingers as we did to Muslims. Put their places of worship under control. And the schools where their tenets are taught. And their families. Deport the suspects to far-off islands so we can torture them, possibily abduct them even in foreign countries and try them through a military court.

Seems just fair.
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Postby Hairyhippydudes » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:06 am

Vellosia wrote:Anyway, damn. What has Norway ever done wrong?


Since when was doing something wrong a requirement for a terrorist attack? Mostly, they just hit stuff because it's there. Scumbags, hope they all suffer for the rest of their short lives.

Big sympathy to the 'Wegians. Hope they figure out who it was and cut off his knackers.

Is it just me or is it incredible that terrorists still think they'll make a difference with violence? I mean, come on - all that world history that says "We don't give in to violence" and "Terrorists never achieve anything" and they still think they'll achieve something? Darwin award or what? :blink:
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:06 am

Vellosia wrote:Let's not degrade and debase this thread and the subject it is based upon over some petty argument.

Maybe you need to go back to page 1 and read the second post. At 37 pages, this advice is way, way too late.

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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:07 am

Laerod wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The number of foiled or successful terrorist attacks in the Eurozone, by type:

Can I see the source for that, Trots? Not that I'm questioning it's veracity, I'm just interested in reading up on that.

Found it on Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Terro.jpg

Data comes from Europol
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Postby Alyakia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:08 am

Laerod wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The number of foiled or successful terrorist attacks in the Eurozone, by type:

Can I see the source for that, Trots? Not that I'm questioning it's veracity, I'm just interested in reading up on that.

They're probably from the Europol reports.

2010
2009
2008

2011

The 2008-2010 one have lots of tables, the 2011 less so.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:09 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Laerod wrote:Yes you did:

You "retracted" as soon as word came about the shooting, claiming bullshit about it not being an "islamic MO".


You know, I was going to answer this post, but you're seriously not worth responding to. Welcome to my ignore list.

Your loss.
Risottia wrote:I'm unsure about what "come right out of the left field" means. Is it some kind of idiom? :unsure:

It means "unexpected".

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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:09 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Laerod wrote:Yes you did:

You "retracted" as soon as word came about the shooting, claiming bullshit about it not being an "islamic MO".


You know, I was going to answer this post, but you're seriously not worth responding to. Welcome to my ignore list.

Translation: I've been caught in a lie, and must now deploy smokescreens and retreat rather than own up to my behavior.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:10 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Laerod wrote:Can I see the source for that, Trots? Not that I'm questioning it's veracity, I'm just interested in reading up on that.

Found it on Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Terro.jpg

Data comes from Europol

Merci.

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:11 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:So in your mind, people who attack and threaten lots of times are EXACTLY the same as people who come right out of left field and are completely unknown?

The number of foiled or successful terrorist attacks in the Eurozone, by type:
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Total ownage. :bow:


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Trotskylvania wrote:Just keep digging that hole deeper, Sunny.

Go away, Stalinist.

Trotskylvania a Stalinist? Last time I checked he was one of those class-traitor counter-revolutionary mobsters known as, you guess it, Trotskyites... ;)
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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:14 am

Risottia wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The number of foiled or successful terrorist attacks in the Eurozone, by type:
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Total ownage. :bow:


What is so good about that??
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:16 am

Vecherd wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Total ownage. :bow:


What is so good about that??

The person, who from post two of this thread has been attempting to hijack this tragedy for their own, insidious plans, has been proven decisively wrong.

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:17 am

Vecherd wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Total ownage. :bow:


What is so good about that??


Let's make it clear: I mean that Troskylvania's answer is an extremely good one. The fact that there are so many terrorists around isn't.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:19 am

Risottia wrote:
Vecherd wrote:
What is so good about that??


Let's make it clear: I mean that Troskylvania's answer is an extremely good one. The fact that there are so many terrorists around isn't.

What is it with you Europeans and trying to separate anyway?
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:21 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Let's make it clear: I mean that Troskylvania's answer is an extremely good one. The fact that there are so many terrorists around isn't.

What is it with you Europeans and trying to separate anyway?

Right? Its a bit ridiculous, looking at those numbers.

I guess Africa isn't the only continent that got set up with artificial state boundaries. :P
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:24 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Let's make it clear: I mean that Troskylvania's answer is an extremely good one. The fact that there are so many terrorists around isn't.

What is it with you Europeans and trying to separate anyway?


The right for one people with common culture, religious belief, language and etnicity to rule their own land, should never been underestimated. Unfortunately, in the past years, it has, and people still thinks imperialism is a better thing than nationalism and separatism, thanks to for example those mad terrorists.
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